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  1. #61  
    come on, kypdurron, let's be serious here.

    republicans are trying to undermine the UN? Look at the UN, kyp! have you blinded yourself to the corruption running rampant? the oil for food scandal? the myriad of nations within the UN which had their hands filled with saddam's money to keep them quiet and to act as a protection from the US?

    really, kyp, you can't see how the UN is a blundering mess right now? im shocked.

    maybe, if the UN had not taken money from hussein and stood its moral ground, which was what I thought the UN was ALL ABOUT, maybe... gasp... WE the US, wouldn't have had to have invaded iraq! if hussein knew he couldn't buy off the UN, maybe all those resolutions would have actually have achieved a positive result!

    no. corruption rather than morals, prevailed within the UN. even kofi annan's own damned SON was taking money from the oil for food! now come on! how can you sit there and try to claim the repubs are bringing down the UN? kyp, the UN brought themselves down! entered into negotiations with world enemies! stood by as people were massacred! hey just as long as they got their blood money, who cares what happened in sudan, right?

    I have been outside of this country many times. this sniveling little attempt to try making repubs appear egocentric, without comprehension of the realities of nations outside of our own is really base, but quite typical I will add.

    its like trying to claim all repubs are bible thumpers - what a delusion - many repubs aren't religious whatsoever - a portion of our backing was constituted by the religious, but it was only PART of the whole. this is the latest in misguided attempts to explain away the defeat.

    but back to what I was saying, I have visited many countries, italy, switzerland, germany, spain and portugal. I HAVE spent time overseas, getting a perspective from these parts of the world.
    for someone to simply try and claim this egocentricity for certain views is preposterous & transparent
  2. #62  
    "You are the one attacking the UN all the time, not me. Just making random critisism without backing it up is easy, comming up with a sollution is a lot harder.."

    you know, I believe this was the reason the democrats lost the election. all they did was criticize, offering ABSOLUTELY no constructive solutions.
    they attacked bush policies bitterly, sparing no expense in trying to pick apart every policy or decision bush brought to the table.

    now, did we ever hear how they would perform the duties of these offices any better? absolutely not. it was criticism, which like you said, toolkit, is VERY easy, but producing the solutions is the tough part.

    while you claim clairegrrl is doing is PRECISELY what the democrats did BEST throughout their entire campaign! quite ironic!

    offer a solution? kofi annan steps down, along with any and all of these corrupted individuals involved in the oil for food. replace them with people of reputable, proven backgrounds - a new group might reestablish the credibility lost by the oil for food scandal.

    you want a solution? get rid of the false pawns inside that group and replace them with kings - maybe then we'll get somewhere.
  3. #63  
    compatriots involved in central american terrorism?

    you like to refer to these cases repeatedly. I would therefore like to return to pointing out that the swiss knowingly safehoused the blood money of the nazis for many years - in effect supporting some of history's ALL TIME WORST TERRORISTS ON RECORD!

    you point out central america ? what about switzerland's protection of nazi germany? I wouldn't suspect I need to go any further to get this point across
  4. #64  
    Quote Originally Posted by Chick-Dance
    Nevertheless, the UNs function as a mediator, healer and plainly a saver of many lives, cannot be disputed either. I saw it with my own eyes in Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
    The anti-Israel lobby in the UN continues to condemn Israel without any condemnation of the terrorism against them.

    The Israel-bashers claim they believe in peace -- but support all
    forms of military aggression against Israel and think such aggression
    must be rewarded.

    The Israel-bashers claim they believe in democracy -- but feel
    that Israel is the only country in the Middle East that must be
    dismembered and destroyed.

    The Israel-bashers claim they oppose violence -- but
    "understand" Palestinian terrorism.

    The Israel-bashers claim they believe that the human rights of
    Arabs must be protected -- but not in Arab countries.
    In Fact, the only "human right" the Israel-bashers really think Palestinians need is the right to attack Jews and destroy Israel.

    The Israel-bashers claim they believe in freedom -- but are not
    disturbed that slavery still exists in Sudan, Saudi Arabia and elsewhere
    among Arabs.

    The Israel-bashers claim they believe in freedom to practice
    religion freely in the Middle East -- but of course only for Muslims.

    The Israel-bashers claim they oppose the use of torture --
    except when practiced by the Palestinian Authority or other
    progressive Arabs.


    Just a little tid-bit I found.
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  5. #65  
    Quote Originally Posted by Chick-Dance
    Again, I'd agree with this statement (with some limited observations). But, that's why I separated the United Nations into two entities: Political and Humanitarian. Your point is directed towards the Political arm of the UN. Under the Humanitarian umbrella the UN is vital and important. That I would hate to see wasted.
    I understand what you are saying. We are not talking about a few dimes being ripped-off from the UNICEF boxes. We are talking about billions of $$ during the Kofi Annan bureaucracy. If he wasnt personally involved, he should still step down because the oil for food program was his thing.

    To squander all the good that the UN does because Annan wants to keep his job would be tragic. I guess he doesnt want to retire and go back to Ghana.

    Go figure
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  6. #66  
    Quote Originally Posted by clairegrrl
    The Israel-bashers claim they oppose violence -- but
    "understand" Palestinian terrorism.
    There is a subtle difference you probably wouldn't understand..
    You can understand where a person is comming from but still not agree with his deeds..
    Both Israel and Hamas are doing wrong...
    I just find it very ironic that the Jewish people with their past act this way.
    Many stories remind me of nazi behaviour
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  7. #67  
    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT
    There is a subtle difference you probably wouldn't understand..
    You can understand where a person is comming from but still not agree with his deeds..
    Both Israel and Hamas are doing wrong...
    I just find it very ironic that the Jewish people with their past act this way.
    Many stories remind me of nazi behaviour
    What would that subtle difference that I wouldnt understand be...that Emergency Special Sessions of the United Nations General Assembly are rare. That no such session has ever been convened with respect to the Chinese occupation of Tibet, the Indonesian occupation of East Timor, the Syrian occupation of Lebanon, the slaughters in Rwanda, the disappearances in Zaire or the horrors of Bosnia. In fact, during the last 15 years they have been called only to condemn Israel.
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  8. #68  
    Quote Originally Posted by clairegrrl
    What would that subtle difference that I wouldnt understand be...that Emergency Special Sessions of the United Nations General Assembly are rare. That no such session has ever been convened with respect to the Chinese occupation of Tibet, the Indonesian occupation of East Timor, the Syrian occupation of Lebanon, the slaughters in Rwanda, the disappearances in Zaire or the horrors of Bosnia. In fact, during the last 15 years they have been called only to condemn Israel.
    I find those very hard to understand too...
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  9. #69  
    Quote Originally Posted by clairegrrl
    What would that subtle difference that I wouldnt understand be...that Emergency Special Sessions of the United Nations General Assembly are rare. That no such session has ever been convened with respect to the Chinese occupation of Tibet, the Indonesian occupation of East Timor, the Syrian occupation of Lebanon, the slaughters in Rwanda, the disappearances in Zaire or the horrors of Bosnia. In fact, during the last 15 years they have been called only to condemn Israel.
    I agree with you clairegrrl. The UN has failed to pay attention to other parts of the world due to enormous pressure and biases by the Moslem world against Israel.
    (For the record, ToolKit, I condemn what Israel is doing to the Palestinians, but the UN needs to condemn, and in strongest words possible, also, what the Palestinians -- Hamas, Jihad and Hizbalah -- are doing to the Israelis! The UN is completely one-sided on this issue.)
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  10. #70  
    Quote Originally Posted by Oops
    I agree with you clairegrrl. The UN has failed to pay attention to other parts of the world due to enormous pressure and biases by the Moslem world against Israel.
    (For the record, ToolKit, I condemn what Israel is doing to the Palestinians, but the UN needs to condemn, and in strongest words possible, also, what the Palestinians -- Hamas, Jihad and Hizbalah -- are doing to the Israelis! The UN is completely one-sided on this issue.)
    With the strong UN support of the US for Israel I dont think it is one-sided..
    I think the whole situation is messed up IMHO...
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