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    While I have had my issues with John Kerry, he showed a lot of class, grace, and patriotism in the way the election ended.

    Kerry was right to examine the Ohio votes carefully to see if it was still possible to win.

    Kerry was right to concede once he realized there was no way Ohio was going to go his way.

    He was right to not throw the election into the courts. If he wanted to, I'm sure he could have dragged things out for weeks.

    His last speech also showed class. It wasn't whiny or blame-pointing. It also wasn't a "poor misunderstood me" speech. It was strong and unifying.

    On the way Kerry ended the campaign, I say great job.
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    Agreed.

    Though I did not vote for him, he showed great class and honor in the way he conceded.
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    Too bad you realize he class after the election
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT
    Too bad you realize he class after the election
    Too bad he displayed class only after the election
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    It was his best speech since the begining of the election..
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    There's an innate decency to the guy, and I'm no Kerry supporter. His fatal flaw, if he can be compared to some mythic tragic hero, is that he could not convey a palpable concept of what he wanted to do as president and in what direction (other than the typical Democrat sacred cows of tax hikes for the wealthy and bloated gov't social programs) he wanted to lead. It seemed as if he had an "idear" of what he wanted, but he just couldn't connect with the people well enough to get it across. But, yes, his concession was classy.
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    His acceptance speech would have been even classier
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    I have to agree with the original post. While I didn't support either candidate, I am almost in shock that it didn't become a fiasco. I have to give Kerry credit for that at least.


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    I agree- it was the best he ever sounded to me. He actually had heart in his speech and warmth that I never saw before. I still disagree with him politically, but respect him as a man who did the right thing when it was clear it was over. Now I understand why McCain is his buddy. On the same note- Bush was humble and I think he was reserved, respectful and showed his class too. It's too bad the election was so trashy until the end.
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    I think he bowed out very graciously. he did a great service to the state of democracy by doing so, vs dragging things out any.

    I teared up for john kerry a bit when he began to break up in saying " I thankyou from the BOTTOM of my heart"

    I think he IS a decent man. though I don't agree with his policies, I do think he is a good person.

    if you get beyond his politics, you can see he can be a compassionate man - I saw this particularly when I saw him respond to a question during the third debate re: abortion. he answered with a great deal of warmth toward that whole situation.

    I teared up for him at the concession speech, its a helluva thing to run a campaign for president. he did the best he could I believe.

    while I feel strongly about issues, I don't let them get in the way of the fact that though I don't agree with them, it doesn't ALWAYS mean they are bad people. many are fine and honorable people. john kerry is one of those people.

    he is to be respected.
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    I find it interesting that a number of Bush supporters from this board have posted here agreeing with the original post. Were the election results different, do you think we'd be hearing similar accolades about Bush who, by all inside reports, is remarkably warm and genuine, from HIS opponents?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gasmeister
    I find it interesting that a number of Bush supporters from this board have posted here agreeing with the original post. Were the election results different, do you think we'd be hearing similar accolades about Bush who, by all inside reports, is remarkably warm and genuine, from HIS opponents?
    From many, yes. There would be some detractors though. The reasoning is simple! Bush has been in office, and during that time he (like every president before him except for Rutherford 'I died in 30 days' Hayes) made enemies. Look at what happened to Clinton. You can't tell me had he lost in 1996 Republicans would be congratulating him on a good fight and praising his character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gasmeister
    I find it interesting that a number of Bush supporters from this board have posted here agreeing with the original post. Were the election results different, do you think we'd be hearing similar accolades about Bush who, by all inside reports, is remarkably warm and genuine, from HIS opponents?
    I think Bush is a nice guy, from a personal standpoint, I just disagree with his policies. Sorry I was not able to fit your stereotype, but I wish you luck next time

    By the way, I am a little amazed at how Kerry can make such a turnaround in your opinions from lying flip-flopping war crimes commiting untrustworthy to really classy respectable guy with just a single speech, but I am glad that you all are finally recognizing him for what he truly is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cellmatrix
    I think Bush is a nice guy, from a personal standpoint, I just disagree with his policies. Sorry I was not able to fit your stereotype, but I wish you luck next time
    You were hugging a tree while smoking a joint when you wrote that, right? Please let you fit one stereotype. Just one! I need it so bad....


    Hm... I'll bet anyone this post seems funnier to me than it does to everyone else. :-)
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    I don't think anyone who goes into politics is "nice". Not in their nature. But in light of the news of Mrs. Edwards' illness, Kerry did the right thing. He probably knew at that point that she was not well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRamsauer
    You were hugging a tree while smoking a joint when you wrote that, right? Please let you fit one stereotype. Just one! I need it so bad....


    Hm... I'll bet anyone this post seems funnier to me than it does to everyone else. :-)
    That is a pretty broad brush you are painting with KR! Note I did not say fat, I said broad

    if you are trying to say I am am changing my tune post election, like all of you, here is a quote from my post before the election too:

    Quote Originally Posted by cellmatrix
    I do not dislike Bush, he seems like a good fellow personally, but I think he has been a very poor president, and as he is our employee in this democracy, I feel it is time to fire him, and hire someone else.
    that pretty much sums it up, I do not dislike him as a person, I just do not like his performance and his policies as president.

    I would like to be conciliatory, but when people accuse me of pot-smoking, either to discredit or provoke, it makes it difficult.

    I think you are doing a good job with the moderating, and I do not agree with eurokitty's attacks. I think your views and those of the other moderators balance each other out well. Keep up the good work, and I will try to be civil and good humored, and I hope everyone else does too.
    Last edited by cellmatrix; 11/05/2004 at 02:42 PM.
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    Yeah- I agree. It's really not about "left and right". It's about the person and how they act when they lose or win. I know many people on the left that are very nice, compassionate people. Too be honest with you- more caring then I am- LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cellmatrix
    I think you are doing a good job with the moderating, and I do not agree with eurokitty's attacks. I think your views and those of the other moderators balance each other out well. Keep up the good work, and I will try to be civil and good humored, and I hope everyone else does too.
    There is more to the story than you realize. KRamsauer knows now too.
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    Further note to KR:

    I see now you are not accusing me of anything in your post, I just needed to read it more carefully, and I realize that you were just saying you "wished" I was. Sorry to misconstrue your statement.
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    Kitty- no that's not how it went. Nice try though. As a matter of fact- the story is Edwards (typical lawyer) wanted to fight it in court and Kerry said no. It is sad about his wife but she didn't know till after it was all done. At least that is the reports that are coming out
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