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    I have enjoyed reading Chickdance's posts since I have joined TC, and I don't mean to be insulting. However, she is so young and misguided, but obviously passionate in her ideas! As John Kerry says, I respect her beliefs.

    However, if you dish it out.....

    Nothing like talking about someone as if they weren't there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBS
    I have enjoyed reading Chickdance's posts since I have joined TC, and I don't mean to be insulting. However, she is so young and misguided, but obviously passionate in her ideas! As John Kerry says, I respect her beliefs.

    However, if you dish it out.....

    Nothing like talking about someone as if they weren't there.
    I think you have Chickdance and Claire confused.
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    You are right, so much for my credibility! I meant Clairegirl. Just call me George W. Except I admit I messed up!

    My apologies to Chickdance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBS
    You are right, so much for my credibility! I meant Clairegirl. Just call me George W. Except I admit I messed up!

    My apologies to Chickdance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBS
    You are right, so much for my credibility! I meant Clairegirl. Just call me George W. Except I admit I messed up!

    These posts have what exactly to do with the candidates religious leanings and the topic of the thread? Nada, that's what.

    It's funny how so many of you can sit there and slam on the President and yet I am sure that if you were put in his place today, you'd likely wet your pants.

    I personally dont care about anyone's religious stance. I care whether or not my taxes are going to go up to pay for sh!t I don't need.
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    Woof, religion is the least of my concerns too so I'd agree with you on that. However, this thread has turned (read the first few posts) more anti Kerry than anti Bush. Plus, as my avatar shows, I wear diapers so peeing in my pants isn't a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woof
    I personally dont care about anyone's religious stance. I care whether or not my taxes are going to go up to pay for sh!t I don't need.
    So it's all about what Woof needs, huh?

    And since when have topics not digressed (especially in this forum) from the original topic?

    I never said that I could be President. But we are allowed to express our opinions. That indeed is one of the great things about this country. I'm sorry you're so angry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBS
    So it's all about what Woof needs, huh?

    And since when have topics not digressed (especially in this forum) from the original topic?

    I never said that I could be President. But we are allowed to express our opinions. That indeed is one of the great things about this country. I'm sorry you're so angry.

    Sorry but I am not angry. And regarding my vote, it is about what I need or want. I vote based on what I think and feel. I vote thinking how the result will affect my life and that of my family. Sorry but I dont vote to save the poor or disadvantaged. That's what I do with charitable donations, not taxes.
    “There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.”
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    Woof, I also give to charity and make no bones about it. I also vote on what I think and feel. I do not need someone telling me how I think or feel, which is what the current leaders of the democratic party are doing. They feel I am incapable of so many things and frankly, that is just not true. Give me the tax cut and I will invest it - to the tune of making more out of it than the government can.

    If someone needs help, fine, but the government cannot be everything to everyone. I do not believe in what this country is progressing toward, a socialist state.

    It's a shame when we have to think of a topic as being anti this or that. The statement that it is becoming more anti-Bush than Kerry - wow, that must mean that people are really beginnign to listen to what Kerry says. Listen to what he says without the distractions and the conclusion one reaches may be a bit different.

    In closing, I am also sick and tired of his respecting whatever he is respecting at the moment. If he did respect what he is now respecting, then he would speak to the country, not the moderator. He also needs to do a better job of not relying on the prompters.

    Ben
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oops
    Funny YOU should say that! ....
    I said spelling and punctuation, I didnt say anything about your grammatical error, Teach
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBS
    No offense Chickdance...
    Im Claire...Chick is the other beautiful person that posts here.
    Well behaved women rarely make history
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurokitty
    The difference is that I actually have a brain, and you are a kool-aid drinker.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eurokitty
    I will cut you some slack in that you are obviously young and very naive.
    You seem to be out of control. While you may be old, your posts certainly dont show the level of experience or sophistication that I would expect of someone with a brain .
    Well behaved women rarely make history
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    lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clairegrrl
    I said spelling and punctuation, I didnt say anything about your grammatical error, Teach
    Spinning the wheels. Whatever...
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    This thread reminds me of the the presidential race itself... Lots of "goo goo gaga". Don't get me wrong it's quite entertaining. Sort of like watching ants struggle in each direction over a piece of dung.
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    Who was that waterboy?? Gunga Dung or Dunga Din. Where is PB when we need him
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    Faith is important to many people, imho. Religion is a different issue.

    I think many people in America would call themselves "Christians" and believe in Jesus. This is faith. Whether you call yourself a Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, Protestant or any other religious sect (yea, just like the Muslims, we have sects as well or else there would only be one Christian religion) tracing roots back to Jesus are religions.

    When religion gets involved in government, then things begin to take a walk down the path to intolerance in many instances. Think back to all the countries that have made a state religion mandatory and what comes to your mind? Perhaps a country like Iran or Afghanistan (when the Taliban ruled) or England (when Henry VIII was king). How about Libya? Or Egypt under Nasser? Palestine under Arafat? Israel under Begin? What about Japan with its ordained Emperor in the late unpleasantness in the '30's and 40's? What about the lack of faith or religion (which can be said to be its own religion) like we currently have in China or had in the Soviet Union under Stalin?

    For those leaders that have established a state religion, ever notice that they often talk to God? And God answers directly back? What makes them special? For the President's view on this, follow this link.

    The more I read and study about our Founding Fathers, the more admiration and respect I gain for what great thinkers and philosophers they were. A document that still provides the framework to govern a nation after more than 200 years. A document that is still flexible enough after those 200 years to adapt to new concerns and issues is absolutely incredible to me.

    One of their key tenents, having learned from the past, is that religion and politics do not mix. One of the freedoms we are granted under the 1st Amendment of the Constitution is the right to worship as we choose. The exact wording is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." This amendment was ratified on December 15, 1791. Do we really need to mess around with it?

    So, personally, I really don't want religion coming into the argument for which candidate would be a better President based on his religious views. We need to understand his faith.

    Just my .02.
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  18. #38  
    Quote Originally Posted by clairegrrl
    Who was that waterboy?? Gunga Dung or Dunga Din. Where is PB when we need him
    Are you referring to Kipling's Gunga Din?
    Animo et Fide
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    I believe religion and politics do not mix because nations are creations of men, not god.
    Animo et Fide
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    Absolutely, and Kerry's statement, "But I can't take what is an article of faith for me and legislate it for someone who doesn't share that article of faith, whether they be agnostic, atheist, Jew, Protestant, whatever. I can't do that." is so what is intended by the Constitution that for anyone to find fault with it, well they must be part of the Taliban.

    Regarding Kerry not voting for the ban on partial birth abortion, fawking pay attention people. Kerry stated he is against this practice and his reason for not voting for the ban legislation and it's completely legit. There was no consideration for the mother's life in that legislation and Kerry stated he would not vote for it without it.
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