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    They have more honorable election campaigns for 4th grade class president in SOUTHPARK!

    Republicans Admit Mailing Campaign Literature Saying Liberals Will Ban the Bible
    By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

    Published: September 24, 2004

    The Republican Party acknowledged yesterday sending mass mailings to residents of two states warning that "liberals" seek to ban the Bible. It said the mailings were part of its effort to mobilize religious voters for President Bush.

    The mailings include images of the Bible labeled "banned" and of a gay marriage proposal labeled "allowed." A mailing to Arkansas residents warns: "This will be Arkansas if you don't vote." A similar mailing was sent to West Virginians.

    A liberal religious group, the Interfaith Alliance, circulated a copy of the Arkansas mailing to reporters yesterday to publicize it. "What they are doing is despicable,'' said Don Parker, a spokesman for the alliance. "They are playing on people's fears and emotions."

    In an e-mail message, Christine Iverson, a spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee, confirmed that the party had sent the mailings.

    "When the Massachusetts Supreme Court sanctioned same-sex marriage and people in other states realized they could be compelled to recognize those laws, same-sex marriage became an issue,'' Ms. Iverson said. "These same activist judges also want to remove the words 'under God' from the Pledge of Allegiance."

    The mailing is the latest evidence of the emphasis Republicans are putting on motivating conservative Christian voters to vote this fall. But as the appeals become public, they also risk alienating moderate and swing voters.

    An editorial on Sept. 22 in The Charleston Gazette in West Virginia, for example, asked, "Holy Moley! Who concocts this gibberish?"

    "Most Americans see morality more complexly," the editorial said. "Many think a higher morality is found in Christ's command to help the needy, prevent war and pursue other humanitarian goals. Churchgoers of this sort aren't likely to believe childish allegations that Democrats want to ban the Bible."
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    Got to love the genius of Karl Rove. It's kinda like, "The jury will disregard that last statement". Things like this and push-polling are incredibly under-handed, but extremely effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrySpammingMe
    "What they are doing is despicable,'' said Don Parker, a spokesman for the alliance. "They are playing on people's fears and emotions."
    Sorta like the Kerry campaign telling people that Bush is going to reinstate the draft.
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    lets just say that both parties use every (dirty) trick in the book...
    It is a sad time for democracy
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT
    It is a sad time for democracy
    I disagree. Presidential campaign dirty tricks have a long history in this country.

    http://hnn.us/articles/3593.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT
    lets just say that both parties use every (dirty) trick in the book...
    It is a sad time for democracy
    What scares me Toolkit is that they haven't used every dirty trick in the book. Great minds in combination with low ethics can further the mud slinging, and continue to push the line on decency. Neither candidate seems to have an actual "ghost" in their closet to dig up lately. No problem -we'll invent ghosts and let the public sort it out. These latest scare tactics are playing on fears...is that the choice Americans are left with? Which candidate scares them less? What does that say for our Country?
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    Our country has a long tradition of vicious politics, smears, lies, and mudslinging since the time of the founding fathers. The press back then would bash a candidate with all of the lies, smears, and unethical conduct they could imagine. Still, our country thrived because people weren't punished for political speech.

    If you ask me, that shows that democracy is alive and well in the USA. Let honest and dishonest people say what they want to say, without fear of reprisals from the army, secret police, or gangs of thugs. We live in a great country where we can say almost whatever we want about, arguably, the most powerful people on the planet.

    It's the responsibility of the voters to punish the liars, the smearers, and the candidate behind such tactics. Unfortunately, that doesn't usually happen. What scares me are the uninformed voters who don't think for themselves and just vote the way someone else tells them to vote. We've got 50-percent of the country who doesn't vote. Probably 40 percent vote the way their friends or special interest group tells them to vote. I would estimate that 10-percent of the population truly ponders and considers which candidate is best, and vote accordingly.

    What does that say for our country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cellmatrix
    are you one of those enlightened 10%?
    No way! I'm voting for whichever candidate Rush Limbaugh tells me to.
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    sorry I deleted the post earlier because I did not want to sound like I was provoking you.

    But thanks for taking it in good spirit.
    Last edited by cellmatrix; 09/24/2004 at 12:21 PM.
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    My personal favorite all time presidential dirty trick was at the Repuplican National Convention in 1972.... Remebember Sammy Davis singing "We Need Nixon Now"??

    "Someone" hired a bunch of black pregnant women to protest outside, carrying signs that read "Nixons the One"!
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    In light of Heberman's comment # 7 above, it would behoove all of us to inform ourselves with facts, not just talking points.

    Here is an interesting website that deconstructs both republican and democrat political spin, it is fact based and detailed.

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...structing_spin

    www.spinsanity.com

    Here is another fact based nonpartisan site:

    www.factcheck.org

    of course, if you prefer talking points to facts, then you are not going to like these sites.
    Last edited by cellmatrix; 09/25/2004 at 12:22 PM.
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    Very nice cellmatix...
    the both look good.....

    heres one that just puts it all out there and lets the bs fly....
    http://xnation.org/

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