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    My teenage neices and nephews are really into this story. I don't know that I believe it, but it is entertaining nonetheless. Basically a guy started posting on various message boards in (I think?) around 2000, claiming to be a time traveler from 2036. He had some really interesting (and cryptic) predictions.

    If you click the link below and then look at the pulldown menu on the left, you can read some of his posts by date.

    Put on your tinfoil hats before you read it all!

    http://www.johntitor.com
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    Ok, I spent a little time looking into this as I had never heard of it before. Sure, I'd heard of Major Edward Dames (I think) and his follies with remote viewing fortune telling, but not this guy. Unfortunately I chose to go to the debunk site first. Boy, they were thorough in tearing into the laser bending picture in that car. The faxes from 1998 were also telling. A compelling if not entertaining story it is...but I can't find much more.
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    The thing about it that is interesting are the "predictions" he made. A bit creepy.

    :twilightzonesong:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurokitty
    The thing about it that is interesting are the "predictions" he made. A bit creepy.

    :twilightzonesong:
    Where did you find those?
    I had a look at the site but didnt find any good 'predictions' but that site has so much text I may have missed it...

    My impression was that it was fiction written by a person who romatisises the lifestyle in the 1900's... but he has some good points though..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT
    Where did you find those?
    I had a look at the site but didnt find any good 'predictions' but that site has so much text I may have missed it...

    My impression was that it was fiction written by a person who romatisises the lifestyle in the 1900's... but he has some good points though..
    Here are a few excerpts:

    Around November, 2000:

    There is a civil war in the United States that starts in 2005. That conflict flares up and down for 10 years. In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China and Europe. The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won. The European Union and China were also destroyed. Russia is now our largest trading partner and the Capitol of the US was moved to Omaha Nebraska.

    Far less medical treatment in the future even though It's more advanced. People die when they now its time to die. No lasers. Genetic medicine and cloning organs are the obvious new techs in the future.

    The Constitution was changed after the war. We have 5 presidents that are voted in and out on different term periods. The vice president is the president of the senate and they are voted separately.

    I am here for personal reasons. For a few months now, I have bee trying to alert anyone that would listen to the possibility of a civil war in the United States in 2005. Does that seem more likely now? Actually it's quite amazing to see what's happening. I have been trying to get people to pay attention for the last few months but to see it unfold is very interesting. Before I leave, I'll try and post my report.

    I am curious… will anyone be upset if Florida's votes are not counted in the Electoral College because of the current "confusion"?

    Question: Are you here now to observe the results of the presidential election?

    I would use the word "elections" a bit cautiously. Perhaps it's easier now to see a civil war in your future?

    It is a mistake to give anyone your unwavering belief...but you will find that out yourself in 2005.

    Imagine you are Jewish and you are able to travel back in time to Germany in 1935. All around you are the patterns of thinking and action that will lead to a great deal of harm, death and destruction in just a few years. You have the advantage of knowing what will come but no one will listen to you. In fact, they think you're insane and the situations you describe could never happen. What I feel is not anger, it is sadness that you cannot see what I see.

    Question: Can you tell us the foods that are unsafe now? Is there anything we can do to prepare for the war you are describing?

    I tried to consolidate your questions into a basic list. I hope this helps.

    1. Do not eat or use products from any animal that is fed and eats parts of its own dead.
    2. Do not kiss or have intimate relations with anyone you do not know.
    3. Learn basic sanitation and water purification.
    4. Be comfortable around firearms. Learn to shoot and clean a gun.
    5. Get a good first aid kit and learn to use it.
    6. Find 5 people within 100 miles that you trust with your life and stay in contact with them.
    7. Get a copy of the US Constitution and read it.
    8. Eat less.
    9. Get a bicycle and two sets of spare tires. Ride it 10 miles a week.
    10. Consider what you would bring with you if you had to leave your home in 10 min. and never return.

    Question: Are some areas of the United States safer than others?

    Take a close look at the county-by-county voting map from the last
    elections.

    Question: Were biological or chemical weapons used in the war? Were any weapons used that effected people's minds?

    Yes there were biological and chemical weapons used. No mind control weapons but there are new "non-lethal" weapon systems that turn out to be quite lethal.

    Question: Has cancer or AIDS been cured yet?

    Aids, no. Cancer, some progress.

    Question: What would you say to any world leaders who might be reading this right now?

    Revel in your confidence today because you will not win tomorrow.

    Question: What is the one thing you would want us to remember?

    Please, please wake up. Look at the signposts around you now.


    Early 2001 postings (he disappeared from the boards in March, 2001.):

    As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004. However, it appears they may be revived in 2040.

    (3) The "Mad Cow" story here is yet to begin but don't worry, the fruited gelatin deserts are safe.
    (4) I'm glad to see it's so easy for to dismiss the Middle East. Yes, I suppose it is a no brainer but pretty soon it will be a "no arrmer" and a "no legger".
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    K-PAXIAN
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    He talks complete rubbish. To take one example, he talks about how melting of the Arctic ice cap won't affect sea level. Of course it won't, it's the melting of land-based ice masses like Antartica and glaciers which will cause (and is causing) sea levels to rise. I can see how people might get taken in, but honestly, it doesn't exactly stand up to much scrutiny. I don't think I need bother with the debunking sites
    Animo et Fide
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterBrown
    He talks complete rubbish. To take one example, he talks about how melting of the Arctic ice cap won't affect sea level. Of course it won't, it's the melting of land-based ice masses like Antartica and glaciers which will cause (and is causing) sea levels to rise. I can see how people might get taken in, but honestly, it doesn't exactly stand up to much scrutiny. I don't think I need bother with the debunking sites
    I think he's a charlatan too, but it's good entertainment!
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    so the civil war in the US in 2005 - between democrats and cons? hehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by rossoneri
    so the civil war in the US in 2005 - between democrats and cons? hehe
    He is clearly wrong, everybody knows that allready started... just look at any american forum that allows politics
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT
    He is clearly wrong, everybody knows that allready started... just look at any american forum that allows politics
    lol

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