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    Anyone have ICQ and can offer me ten minutes of their time to solve my home networking issues? I have a linksys network, one desktop and one laptop (wireless). I run Windows 98 on both systems and the internet works fine but my home network is screwy!

    Either PM me or ICQ me at 164483916, I should be on all night!

    Thanks,
    Rob
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    I am on tonight which is Wednesday, August 7th. I think I need suggestions with IP addresses. It is weird because both computers are setup for the Workgroup "Home" but when I log on and check the Network Neighborhood, they each only show themselves.

    Then it gets weird, if I do a Log Off and Re-Log On to my Desktop, both computers show up in my Laptop's Network Neighborhood but I cannot access it. Additionally when I click on Network Neighborhood on my Desktop is says the network is down.

    Huh? Please anyone who can help!
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    Maddog,

    I don't do ims. Sorry.

    How are the PCs getting there IPS? Static or Dynamic?

    Was it ever working?

    Make sure both the laptop and PC are on the same workgroup.
    Make sure you are at least sharing one resource (directory drive, printer) on each machine.
    Make sure each is getting their own IP.


    Can each connect to the internet at the same time? Or only one at a time?
    Felipe
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    Felipe, thanks for responding. They worked for one session and then quit on me.

    Both computers are on the same Workgroup and they get their IP addresses automatically. Both computers are sharing a resource.

    I think the problem is with the IP addresses but I am not sure what kind of address to assign them.
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    Can they both get onto the internet at the same time?

    I used to have a win98 machine (buffy was her name) that would be able to get to the net but would lose the other PCs on the network. It would see the network every now and then, but would eventually lose it. I ended up removing the network card from device manager and letting 98 re-install it.

    On both machine, start menu . . . run . . . winipcfg. both should pretty much match except for the IPS.
    Felipe
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    Life is what happens between Firmware releases.
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    I found these two sites helpful when I networked a Win98 laptop to Win98 desktop. And then converted both to WinXP.

    http://www.practicallynetworked.com/

    http://www.homepcnetwork.com/

    Problems I have had were due mostly to configuration problems that require you to hunt them down. Some even require registry edits.

    Biggest problem I found is that the error messages do not give enough information about the problem.
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    The most likely solution to your problem is to make an LMHOSTS file on each of the machines. In Win9x/Me, a sample file is located in C:\WINDOWS as LMHOSTS.SAM (it's in C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC in NT/2K/XP - substitute WINDOWS for WINNT if necessary in XP). The basic format for the first box (we'll call it MachineX for this example, and the second box MachineY) is:

    192.168.0.yyy MachineY #PRE

    and on the second box (MachineY):

    192.168.0.xxx MachineX #PRE

    edit: There are supposed to be some spaces between each of those (or tabs), but apparently they're reduced when posted. Also, the file needs to be plain text.

    Save each of these as LMHOSTS. (no extension) on the respective machines in their C:\WINDOWS directories and reboot. Microsoft Networking over TCP/IP in Windows 9x is a bit flaky without either an NT/2K domain controller to act as master browser or manual LMHOSTS entries IME, and will produce the exact behavior you describe.
    Last edited by Toby; 08/08/2002 at 08:45 AM.
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    Thanks guys, when I get home tonight I will try some of these ideas out.

    Felipe : yes both machines have no problems accessing the internet. Both machines automatically obtain IP addresses. I was thinking I could try assigning IP addresses like 10.0.0.151 and 10.0.0.152 and use a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. Do you think this might work? I really believe my problem lies in that both compters are being assigned the same IP.

    Bud : I am definitely going to check out both sites but the www.homepcnetwork.com looks pretty good at first glance!

    Toby : I am going to try the other ideas first as I am more familiar with playing with IP addresses. Besides it looks to me like that is where you were headed with your "192.168.0.yyy MachineY #PRE". BTW, I have been to Houma, LA. My wife and I drove cross country this past Spring and we went from New Orleans to Cocodrie (LUMCON).
    No more rhymes...and this time I mean it!
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    Originally posted by maddog
    [...] Felipe : yes both machines have no problems accessing the internet. Both machines automatically obtain IP addresses. I was thinking I could try assigning IP addresses like 10.0.0.151 and 10.0.0.152 and use a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. Do you think this might work?
    It likely won't help much without the LMHOSTS file. It'll still be sporadic (sometimes they'll see each other sometimes they won't).
    I really believe my problem lies in that both compters are being assigned the same IP.
    This is unlikely if they're connected to the same hub/switch. It would show that there was an IP address conflict.
    [...] Toby : I am going to try the other ideas first as I am more familiar with playing with IP addresses. Besides it looks to me like that is where you were headed with your "192.168.0.yyy MachineY #PRE".
    Yes, and no. Manually assigning the IPs will make sure that they have the same IP all the time, but it won't tell Windows Networking how to find them consistently. An NT-based network (NT/2K/XP) will have all of the necessary 'stuff' to be able to browse NetBIOS over TCP/IP by itself, but Windows 9x/Me doesn't.
    BTW, I have been to Houma, LA. My wife and I drove cross country this past Spring and we went from New Orleans to Cocodrie (LUMCON).
    I bet that was an interesting drive for someone not from this area.
    ‎"Is that suck and salvage the Kevin Costner method?" - Chris Matthews on Hardball, July 6, 2010. Wonder if he's talking about his oil device or his movie career...

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