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  1. #61  
    Quote Originally Posted by tcrunner View Post
    From that, it seems like "white" doesn't mean much beyond skin tone to you. How liberal of you.
    What about you? How would you define "white", in your own terms, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcrunner View Post
    Simple. The diverse Caucasian race.
    Correct, but you have to understand that that means that wingnuts are part of the exact same race as the French, the Germans and the Norwegians, and they are all socialists. I'm waiting for the T*baggers and their supporters on this board to come up with some kind of nationalistic definition of "white" that excludes those from inferior countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Correct, but you have to understand that that means that wingnuts are part of the exact same race as the French, the Germans and the Norwegians, and they are all socialists. I'm waiting for the T*baggers and their supporters on this board to come up with some kind of nationalistic definition of "white" that excludes those from inferior countries.

    That makes absolutely no sense. Aside from being a complete non-sequitur, you're asking for people to come up with a definition to support what you erroneously assume they believe. Just like the OP, the term that so enraged MM was popularized by people on the Left but you demand justification by right-wingers for using it? Makes no sense.

    By the way, any reason you excluded Arabs, Persians, Indians, Pakistanis, etc, from your list of white people. Since, by your own definition, all Caucasians are white. Just seems a little exclusionary.
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  4. #64  
    Well....not proud of my French ancestory, so thanks davidra for reminding me of that. Sometimes you just can't help who you came from. However, I am proud that I have some American Indian in me! If there is one thing that I am disappointed in our country on, it's how we screwed the Indians. No way to defend what we did to those folks....ain't right. Nope....ain't right.
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  5.    #65  
    Quote Originally Posted by groovy View Post
    That makes absolutely no sense. Aside from being a complete non-sequitur, you're asking for people to come up with a definition to support what you erroneously assume they believe. Just like the OP, the term that so enraged MM was popularized by people on the Left but you demand justification by right-wingers for using it? Makes no sense.
    Of course it was a non-sequitur. It was meant to be. For a group that considers everything about this country to be superior to every other developed country (including their sports), I figure it's only a matter of time before the right starts defining race linked with nationality....white Americans as opposed to Caucasians. After all, who would want to be in the same category as the French?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Of course it was a non-sequitur. It was meant to be. For a group that considers everything about this country to be superior to every other developed country (including their sports), I figure it's only a matter of time before the right starts defining race linked with nationality....white Americans as opposed to Caucasians. After all, who would want to be in the same category as the French?
    Again, you make an unfounded assertion about a group of people and then ask them to defend it. Why don't you stick to asking them to defend statements they actually made?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkzone View Post
    R u serious???.....so what percentage of "Foot" is used in a given game of "FOOTball"....???
    Which code of football? Amercian? Canadian? Rugby League? Rugby Union? Austrailian Rules? Gaelic? Soccer/Association?

    All different varieties have their own rules & skills, and all involve kicking the ball at one time or another. But American Football is far from the only code which involves throwing or carrying the ball as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Correct, but you have to understand that that means that wingnuts are part of the exact same race as the French, the Germans and the Norwegians, and s:
    Help me out here - what exactly is a "wingnut"? I don't understand that term any better than the whole "browning" bit....

    (Edit: and no, I'm not going to Google wingnut on my Pre).
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  9. #69  
    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Of course it was a non-sequitur. It was meant to be. For a group that considers everything about this country to be superior to every other developed country (including their sports),
    ?
    I think NFL football is the greatest sport in the world, bar none.

    Obviously I must a racist, or a wingnut, or whatever..
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    ok, I'm REALLY tired of typing with my thumbs. Need to get the laptop out today & play around some more with my tether & see if I can actually get it to work. No wifi here @ my mom's house..........
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    Michael Jackson was white, and I don't think HE was caucasian....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcrunner View Post
    A child of 8 can understand that that order is simply wrong. All "whites" are Caucasian. No one has put forth the reverse ("All Caucasians are white"). Why would they unless they wanted to make an argument without merit?
    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    What about you? How would you define "white", in your own terms, of course.
    Simple. The diverse Caucasian race.
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    But you DID state that all whites are caucasians...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjeffcoat View Post
    But you DID state that all whites are caucasians...
    Actually, that person stated the definition of white is "the diverse Caucasian race." In other words, "a=b" not "a is a member of b".

    Apparently that person misspoke.
  15. #75  
    Quote Originally Posted by tcrunner View Post
    What's funny about that whole French-American thingy is that without the French there would never have been an American.
    And without America, France would likely be speaking German right now.....maybe a trade off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    And without America, France would likely be speaking German right now.....maybe a trade off?
    ohhhhhhh but if you tip the first domino over, ie no french involvement during your revolution, then quite likely, the two big wars would never have happened as all of North America would be a british colony still.. with all its resources, in british hands.. sooooooooo if you wanna tip em over look at all the possible outcomes.. Before Frances involvment in the revolution America was loosing and loosing badly. Food for thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by groovy View Post
    Actually, that person stated the definition of white is "the diverse Caucasian race." In other words, "a=b" not "a is a member of b".
    Apparently that person misspoke.
    The quote I am referring to is as follows:

    A child of 8 can understand that that order is simply wrong. All "whites" are Caucasian. No one has put forth the reverse ("All Caucasians are white").
    Obviously that statement is incorrect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xForsaken View Post
    ohhhhhhh but if you tip the first domino over, ie no french involvement during your revolution, then quite likely, the two big wars would never have happened as all of North America would be a british colony still.. with all its resources, in british hands.. sooooooooo if you wanna tip em over look at all the possible outcomes.. Before Frances involvment in the revolution America was loosing and loosing badly. Food for thought.
    We likely would have come through Of course, who knows how history would have gone from there....would we have just disappeared or come back fighting again? My bet, we would have come back fighting again. So, your comment assumes quite a bit. But, we'll never know....bottom line....we saved the Brit's and the French's a** when it was our turn to come up to bat...and...I might add, we did it while distracted by the pesky Japanese.

    Edit: oops...sorry for the double post....thought I caught it in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xForsaken View Post
    ohhhhhhh but if you tip the first domino over, ie no french involvement during your revolution, then quite likely, the two big wars would never have happened as all of North America would be a british colony still.. with all its resources, in british hands.. sooooooooo if you wanna tip em over look at all the possible outcomes.. Before Frances involvment in the revolution America was loosing and loosing badly. Food for thought.
    We likely would have come through Of course, who knows how history would have gone from there....would we have just disappeared or come back fighting again? My bet, we would have come back fighting again. So, your comment assumes quite a bit. But, we'll never know....bottom line....we saved the Brit's and the French's a** when it was our turn to come up to bat...and...I might add, we did it while distracted by the pesky Japanese.

    By the way.....what is "loosing and loosing badly" mean? You might have to feed me some food on that.
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    you said all whites are caucasian. That's not true.
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