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  1. #101  
    Quote Originally Posted by Micael View Post
    cool avatar btw, Ken
    Thanks. I was tired of trying to be "ironic" only to be confused as a fan-boy for a mediocre movie. Now I am just showing my true fan-boy-ness for my favorite mediocre band
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  2. #102  
    Our new Louisiana poll has a lot of data points to show how unhappy voters in the state are with Barack Obama's handling of the oil spill but one perhaps sums it up better than anything else- a majority of voters there think George W. Bush did a better job with Katrina than Obama's done dealing with the spill.

    50% of voters in the state, even including 31% of Democrats, give Bush higher marks on that question compared to 35% who pick Obama.

    Overall only 32% of Louisianans approve of how Obama has handled the spill to 62% who disapprove. 34% of those polled say they approved of how Bush dealt with Katrina to 58% who disapproved.

    Public Policy Polling: Fallout from the Spill
  3. #103  
    [QUOTE=Kenanator;2511033]So the whole basis of "Obama is a socialist" is based off of one sound bite that's from back in his campaign, almost 2years ago?[QUOTE]

    I wish that was all....you can also look at the people he surrounds himself with....go check out some of these people. I assume he (Obama) likes these folk's ideas, right? Go google his comments regarding his ultimate goal for health coverage. So no, just one comment isn't what I base my belief on. I will say, I do tend to put more emphasis on comments that he makes when he is not reading what his "people" want him to read. Always interesting what people say when they express their true feelings.....when they think no one is listening.

    Listen....kind of tired of this, LOL.....you disagree with me and I disagree with you on this subject, can we just agree on that?
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  4. #104  
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenanator View Post
    I like how this guy just keeps clapping and clapping....pretty cool!
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  5.    #105  
    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    Why do you always say that about Reagan? It's just not true....go here: The Tax Foundation - U.S. Federal Individual Income Tax Rates History, 1913-2010

    When Reagan was sworn in as Prez on 1/20/81, the highest joint tax rate was 70%!!!! So that was the rate when he arrived....in other words....he didn't set that. In 1982, he got it down to 50% max joint rate, and in 1988 he got it down to 28%! THIS IS A FACT. He couldn't just snap his fingers and get the tax rates down....if that was the case, Obama would have snapped his fingers by now and gotten it much higher by now. Bush 41 broke his "read my lips" pledge, and raised the top rate back to 31% (boooooo...which is why he likely lost to Clinton). Clinton raised the max tax rate to 39.6% in '93. Bush 43 lowered it back down to 35% in 2003. So please, please stop making it sound as if Reagan set the crazy 70% tax rate. Good grief....ask your wife!

    My proof? "....you see....I just want to spread the wealth around" as over heard as he tried to explain to Joe the Plumber about his plans.

    And good doc....are you willing to bet that Obama will not attempt to raise taxes? How do you fund all that he is going for and not raise taxes....it simply....will not....work. So you willing to bet he won't try? I'm hoping the DeMint's in DC can stop the socialist agenda....if not....even when you retire you will be grabbing your ankles for the tax man.....of course, you love taxes, so you'll likely enjoy that experience.
    You are so slow. Really, it's painful, but I'm glad you are willing to notice that it took Reagan 7 years to get the tax rate down as low as Obama has it right now. I guess you would agree that Obama can't be judged until his seventh year, right? That's what happens when you deal with incompetent leadership before you....isn't it? Our tax rate historically is at record lows and you are Chicken Little. It's really pretty pathetic. Why don't you wait and see what happens before deciding in the giant Clemson-manufactured Crystal Ball what's going to happen? Would you have predicted that W would spend the country into the worst debt in history?

    Your proof...as was mentioned....is based on one throwaway line taken out of context. That's the kind of careful broad analysis I would expect from you, actually. In fact, it's because you think he will, maybe, at some point in the future, cause higher taxes, which will still be less than they were during the majority of Reagan's wonderful years as president. And please....continue to use the "socialist agenda" term without being able to justify it. It truly reflects on the educational process, if you get my drift. I suppose you're really sorry there's no public option and that the health care bill will benefit private insurance more than anyone else, because you'd at least have a talking point if we had a national health service. Guess what? We don't.

    I bet you're tired. It's hard trying to keep afloat with no support. It's fine to disagree about ideas, but predictions? They're always worthless. Try and pay attention to the current state of affairs.
  6. #106  
    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    I like how this guy just keeps clapping and clapping....pretty cool!
    Such determination...
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  7.    #107  
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenanator View Post
    Such determination...
    Shhhh. Let him miss the point. It's funnier that way. I mean, he does have a lot in common with Orson Welles. He doesn't have any cogent thoughts either, being dead and all.
  8. #108  
    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    You are so slow. Really, it's painful, but I'm glad you are willing to notice that it took Reagan 7 years to get the tax rate down as low as Obama has it right now. I guess you would agree that Obama can't be judged until his seventh year, right? That's what happens when you deal with incompetent leadership before you....isn't it? Our tax rate historically is at record lows and you are Chicken Little. It's really pretty pathetic. Why don't you wait and see what happens before deciding in the giant Clemson-manufactured Crystal Ball what's going to happen? Would you have predicted that W would spend the country into the worst debt in history?
    Holy cow....I must say.....you democrats do an amazing job of saying something enough times and then you just seem to think it is true. So....let me get this straight....when Reagan began his term in 1981, you would expect him to snap his fingers and get the democratically controlled house to just roll over and reduce taxes down to 28%? Over night? Really? I think going from 70% down to 50% with a democratically controlled house is pretty impressive....and then....he got it down to 28% when the House was still controlled by democrats. If you'll recall, Obama had a hard enough time getting his health bill through when controlling BOTH the House and the Senate. Do you think he would have gotten his health bill through a Republican controlled House? I hate to ask this davidra, but what you smokin'? Seriously, you accuse me of using a crystal ball, and yet you can't understand FACTS.

    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Your proof...as was mentioned....is based on one throwaway line taken out of context. That's the kind of careful broad analysis I would expect from you, actually. In fact, it's because you think he will, maybe, at some point in the future, cause higher taxes, which will still be less than they were during the majority of Reagan's wonderful years as president. And please....continue to use the "socialist agenda" term without being able to justify it. It truly reflects on the educational process, if you get my drift. I suppose you're really sorry there's no public option and that the health care bill will benefit private insurance more than anyone else, because you'd at least have a talking point if we had a national health service. Guess what? We don't.
    Hard to reply to this when you still don't understand that the President can't simply snap his fingers and get the tax brackets changed. Checks and balances prevents that, go look up that term. And don't worry.....I will continue to discuss his socialist agenda. There is no public option....yet.....his agenda (per his own comments, go research that, it comes from his very lips) is to have the government running the whole health care system. Unless, could Obama have been lying to the group he told that to? "one step at a time" he told that group.

    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    I bet you're tired. It's hard trying to keep afloat with no support. It's fine to disagree about ideas, but predictions? They're always worthless. Try and pay attention to the current state of affairs.
    Nope....at some point it does seem like we all say the same things over and over and over again and yet I don't recall anyone in here suddenly changing their minds. Kind of funny....really.

    Okay....off for some fun at the Japanese Restaurant (birthday gathering). Love that rice!
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  9.    #109  
    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post


    Hard to reply to this when you still don't understand that the President can't simply snap his fingers and get the tax brackets changed. Checks and balances prevents that, go look up that term. And don't worry.....I will continue to discuss his socialist agenda. There is no public option....yet.....his agenda (per his own comments, go research that, it comes from his very lips) is to have the government running the whole health care system. Unless, could Obama have been lying to the group he told that to? "one step at a time" he told that group.

    Okay....off for some fun at the Japanese Restaurant (birthday gathering). Love that rice!
    Have some KoolAid with your rice, please.

    "There is no public option....yet..." Again, you are basing your definition of socialism on what you perceive his final goal is, based on comments that were made a long time ago. As the President of the United States, from the time he began working on health care reform, I defy you to find one instance where he said he was working toward a national health plan? In fact, he has never said he favored a NHS as in England, but rather a mixed public/private plan as in Germany and Italy, if any. Have you heard him say he's going to continue to work toward a public option? Really...you have no understanding of what socialism is. Even after posting the definition yourself, you have no idea. That's fine. The President of the United States will be just fine.
  10.    #110  
    Quote Originally Posted by tcrunner View Post
    At least that explains the excuse you'll use for trying to wallpaper Obama with such nonsense. Once you wrap your brain around the term's central definition, you'll realize just how wrong you've been. Maybe.

    I know you're trying to help, but save your energy. As one great observer noted, stereotypes are devices for saving a biased person the trouble of learning. And as Bruce Springsteen once said, probably directly to Clemson grads, "Dude, stop. You're justifying the stereotype."
  11. #111  
    Quote Originally Posted by tcrunner View Post
    At least that explains the excuse you'll use for trying to wallpaper Obama with such nonsense. Once you wrap your brain around the term's central definition, you'll realize just how wrong you've been. Maybe.
    YAWN....you guys are sooo blind.
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  12. #112  
    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Have some KoolAid with your rice, please.

    "There is no public option....yet..." Again, you are basing your definition of socialism on what you perceive his final goal is, based on comments that were made a long time ago. As the President of the United States, from the time he began working on health care reform, I defy you to find one instance where he said he was working toward a national health plan? In fact, he has never said he favored a NHS as in England, but rather a mixed public/private plan as in Germany and Italy, if any. Have you heard him say he's going to continue to work toward a public option? Really...you have no understanding of what socialism is. Even after posting the definition yourself, you have no idea. That's fine. The President of the United States will be just fine.
    Well good god davidra, the man isn't a complete *****. Now, I will say this.....maybe when he was talking to the groups where he said his ultimate goal was a single payer system, maybe he was lying to them? I don't know, the guy says basically what he has to say in front of certain groups. So....I will agree with you that maybe he doesn't always speak the truth. But click on this link and tell me he didn't say what his ultimate goal is, and tell me he doesn't say it can't happen all at once:



    Just like Reagan couldn't snap his fingers and make the tax rate drop from 70% to 28% (which is what happened during his 2 terms as Prez, do you dispute that?), Obama and the democratically controlled Congress also realizes they couldn't immediately go to a single payer system as they would have liked....I give them credit for that. My hope is that the Republicans can get enough folks in there with some back bone like DeMint and block these crazy ideas. But, in his own words, that is his ultimate goal. But come on davidra, put down your own KoolAid, did you expect him to get his healthcare agenda through by trying for universal healthcare right off the bat? Watch the video, it is his goal, in his own words. Is he lying in that video?
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  13. #113  
    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    I know you're trying to help, but save your energy. As one great observer noted, stereotypes are devices for saving a biased person the trouble of learning. And as Bruce Springsteen once said, probably directly to Clemson grads, "Dude, stop. You're justifying the stereotype."
    Yes....the great thinker Springsteen...ROFL. That guy thinks because he can play a mean guitar and look really ugly trying to sing, we should all listen to him. Come up with someone else to quote, please. He is on my list of liberal entertainers who will never get another penny from me....oh sure....that won't hurt him, but I feel better not supporting him.
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  14.    #114  
    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    Yes....the great thinker Springsteen...ROFL. That guy thinks because he can play a mean guitar and look really ugly trying to sing, we should all listen to him. Come up with someone else to quote, please. He is on my list of liberal entertainers who will never get another penny from me....oh sure....that won't hurt him, but I feel better not supporting him.
    I'm sure you're much more of a Toby Keith fan, right?

    Lynching Adovcate country singer Toby Keith is a blatant Racist the bruce blog
  15. #115  
    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    I'm sure you're much more of a Toby Keith fan, right?

    Lynching Adovcate country singer Toby Keith is a blatant Racist the bruce blog
    Dang.....caught again by detective davidra. I knew eventually you'd throw Toby Keith in my face as I've mentioned him in here so many times and how much I admired his music and beliefs....hey wait...now that I think about it.....I don't think I've ever mentioned Toby Keith in here. Davidra....please show me where I put Toby Keith up on a pedestal. I guess you are still attending the Dixie Chicks concerts and buying their music? Hmmm, where are the Dixie Chicks since they blasted Bush?
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  16.    #116  
    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    Dang.....caught again by detective davidra. I knew eventually you'd throw Toby Keith in my face as I've mentioned him in here so many times and how much I admired his music and beliefs....hey wait...now that I think about it.....I don't think I've ever mentioned Toby Keith in here. Davidra....please show me where I put Toby Keith up on a pedestal. I guess you are still attending the Dixie Chicks concerts and buying their music? Hmmm, where are the Dixie Chicks since they blasted Bush?
    Just guessing on the Toby Keith...but I notice you didn't say anything about not liking him either. On the other hand, I have liked the Dixie Chicks long before they said anything about Bush. Reason? Let's just say I appreciate good bluegrass, having lived in Nashville for a time and also having recorded some. And where are they? Actually, they're about to start a summer tour with the Eagles. Not bad company.
  17. #117  
    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    Dang.....caught again by detective davidra. I knew eventually you'd throw Toby Keith in my face as I've mentioned him in here so many times and how much I admired his music and beliefs....hey wait...now that I think about it.....I don't think I've ever mentioned Toby Keith in here. Davidra....please show me where I put Toby Keith up on a pedestal. I guess you are still attending the Dixie Chicks concerts and buying their music? Hmmm, where are the Dixie Chicks since they blasted Bush?
    Actually I dont think Davidra did say any of that, it was more of question then anything, in fact it was a question. Dixie Chicks, hmm well, they took a lambasting for their stand, as a result they suffered, from what I hear, they are coming back quite well. Oh and in a couple of interviews, they still stand by their original stance. Right or wrong, they stood up for what they believed in, and still do.
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  18. #118  
    Quote Originally Posted by tcrunner View Post
    Would you like Freedom Fries with your whine?
    I don't drink wine....just not my kind of drink. As for whining....I don't see anything to whine about, care to explain what I'd be whining about?
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  19. #119  
    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Just guessing on the Toby Keith...but I notice you didn't say anything about not liking him either. On the other hand, I have liked the Dixie Chicks long before they said anything about Bush. Reason? Let's just say I appreciate good bluegrass, having lived in Nashville for a time and also having recorded some. And where are they? Actually, they're about to start a summer tour with the Eagles. Not bad company.
    You didn't really ask whether I liked his music or not, you just assumed that I'm into lynching. Funny, never heard anyone else comment about that song and the lyrics. I guess I just don't hang out with the type of people that are always looking for ways to label someone a racist. But, as usual, davidra is playing the race card It's funny how democrats, no matter what the situation, tend to always come back to black and white. When in doubt....accuse the person of being a racist. Heavy sigh.....

    As for the Dixie Chicks.....good for them for trying to bounce back after how many years? 4? 5? Americans do tend to forgive people for their errors. And while I really do LOVE the Eagles, I won't hold it against them for hanging out with the chicks. While I know that some of the primary Eagles are big liberals, when I went to their concert they didn't pull a Sprinsteen and launch into a bunch of liberal BS (if they had, I would have boood them). I was there to listen to their music, not hear them speak their political views (though, you can hear some of that in their music). I'll be looking for that next big hit from the chicks though.
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  20. #120  
    Quote Originally Posted by xForsaken View Post
    Actually I dont think Davidra did say any of that, it was more of question then anything, in fact it was a question. Dixie Chicks, hmm well, they took a lambasting for their stand, as a result they suffered, from what I hear, they are coming back quite well. Oh and in a couple of interviews, they still stand by their original stance. Right or wrong, they stood up for what they believed in, and still do.
    Yes....of course davidra didn't mean anything with his question....ROFL.
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