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    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    It's Obama's socialist agenda that is doing the polluting...
    I stopped reading right there.
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  2.    #62  
    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    It's Obama's socialist agenda that is doing the polluting. And by the way, it is not just little ole me that is of the opinion that his agenda is leading us towards socialism....so the fact that such brain power as you, davidra, and other liberals in here disagree with me, does not bother me in the least.
    Of course it doesn't. The difference is that unlike most on the right, we actually know not only how to spell it, but how to define it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Of course it doesn't. The difference is that unlike most on the right, we actually know not only how to spell it, but how to define it.

    I would type something....but....I would just feed your hunger to label me a racist....again. So....I'll resist the urge. I really don't have time to do a search for democrat signs that are misspelled Trying to keep the cash flowing in here.....although.....not too much....gotta stay below the Obama radar
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  4. #64  
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenanator View Post
    So, in layman's terms. Conservatives with little experience = "washington outsiders", "folksy" and are OK. Democrats with little experience = "unfit to lead..."
    Whew....at least I got you to admit Obama had little experience. It took awhile, but glad you've come around to admit that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenanator View Post
    So, in layman's terms. Conservatives with little experience = "washington outsiders", "folksy" and are OK. Democrats with little experience = "unfit to lead..."


    What's with all the stereotyping? The fact is that Obama is "unfit to lead", as you put it. He's proven this. He's a one termer who's jamming through as much crap as he can cause he knows he's a one termer.

    Even if he does manage to squeek through, he'll have a 'dead-duck' second term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micael View Post
    What's with all the stereotyping? The fact is that Obama is "unfit to lead", as you put it. He's proven this. He's a one termer who's jamming through as much crap as he can cause he knows he's a one termer.

    Even if he does manage to squeek through, he'll have a 'dead-duck' second term.
    I love it. You accuse someone of stereotyping, and then the rest of your post is stereotyping. Really, nobody could make this up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    I love it. You accuse someone of stereotyping, and then the rest of your post is stereotyping. Really, nobody could make this up.
    Sorry, you lost me. What did I stereotype? I'm getting old I guess...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micael View Post
    Sorry, you lost me. What did I stereotype? I'm getting old I guess...
    I guess. But that's OK, because you aren't aware of the definition of socialism either.

    Does any of this sound familiar?

    Stereotypes are standardized and simplified conceptions of groups or individuals based on some prior assumptions. Generally speaking, stereotypes are not based on objective truth but rather subjective and sometimes unverifiable content-matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    I guess. But that's OK, because you aren't aware of the definition of socialism either.

    Does any of this sound familiar?
    Thanks for the patronizing and snarky response, but I already knew what the term meant. What I was asking was what in my post was a stereotype. Don't bother answering if it's just going to be more crass insults from you and your little peanut gallery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micael View Post
    What I was asking was what in my post was a stereotype.
    The real question is what in the post is NOT a stereotype?

    The fact is that Obama is "unfit to lead", as you put it. He's proven this. He's a one termer who's jamming through as much crap as he can cause he knows he's a one termer.

    Even if he does manage to squeek through, he'll have a 'dead-duck' second term.

    'Generally speaking, stereotypes are not based on objective truth but rather subjective and sometimes unverifiable content-matter.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    Whew....at least I got you to admit Obama had little experience. It took awhile, but glad you've come around to admit that.
    Can you please name the president with in the last 20 years that had a plethora of experience, prior to getting into office?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micael View Post
    What's with all the stereotyping? The fact is that Obama is "unfit to lead", as you put it. He's proven this. He's a one termer who's jamming through as much crap as he can cause he knows he's a one termer.

    Even if he does manage to squeek through, he'll have a 'dead-duck' second term.
    The left thought W. Bush was a one term-er also. How did that turn out again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcrunner View Post
    Without the stimulus working as well as it is, today's US economy would set a precedent for Depressions. Nice to know that some prefer that status.
    Quantify how it's worked "well", please. Try to avoid the money that went to fictitious ZIP codes or the temporary Census workers that get laid off and re-hired to count as "new" jobs.

    How did the stimulus boost GDP? How did it affect unemployment? Foreclosures? Business investment? An op-ed isn't ideal.

    Facts. We need them.

    Finely minced facts and spun like the Hill for partisan purposes. Nice job!
    Feel free to post the Underemployment stats for any year that W. Bush was president and then post those for Obama. (Interesting that you didn't do that already, but, rather, went for the accusatory insult.)


    Keep swinging if you like, but this is not to be taken seriously. Sorry. BP's CEO has proven to have no contingency plan or solution. Which is why Obama is meeting with BP's Chairman of the Board. The CEO is welcome to tag along if the Chairman feels it necessary.
    So we're in agreement that Obama is finally meeting with someone from BP; 8 weeks after the incident. Obama's had plenty of authority at his disposal but he's not doing anything substantial.

    According to the AZ governor and every rational report on this law, it doesn't matter what activity a person is engaged in in order for her sworn officers of the law to demand papers if the officers suspect the person of illegal activity and likely to be an illegal immigrant. How does one tell if one is likely to be an illegal immigrant? Guilty of showing the signs of being impoverished?
    "...rational," meaning, those you agree with, correct?

    And you forgot to emphasis the phrase before "and" to show that the person has to be suspected of illegal activity. (The US immigration law doesn't even have that caveat.)

    From the Arizona law: "For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency…where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person…"

    The term "reasonable suspicion" will be latched onto by every lawyer in the state, but they can't ignore the phrase "lawful contact." (And going out for ice cream" ain't illegal, contrary to what Obama seems to think.) Lawmakers have to know that EVERY time this law is enforced, lawyers and legislators in DC will be picking it apart with a fine-toothed comb.

    The president (and I) hold a slightly more reasonable opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by semprini View Post

    Feel free to post the Underemployment stats for any year that W. Bush was president and then post those for Obama. (Interesting that you didn't do that already, but, rather, went for the accusatory insult.)
    Oh no. You mean to tell me that Bush's first year in office had lower unemployment than Obama's? Rocket scientist, aren't you?

    During the last full month before Bush took office in January 2001, the unemployment rate was 3.9 percent. In March 2005, the official U.S. unemployment rate was 5.2 percent—representing 7.7 million unemployed workers. The manufacturing sector has lost nearly 3 million manufacturing jobs since January 2001.

    What’s more, the 7.7 million officially unemployed represents only about 57 percent of all U.S. workers—approximately 13.6 million, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics—who are either unemployed, underemployed in part-time jobs out of economic necessity or who have become so discouraged that they have given up looking for work.

    And things just got worse from there. Look what they each were handed. Really.
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    obama obama obama blah blah blah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenanator View Post
    Can you please name the president with in the last 20 years that had a plethora of experience, prior to getting into office?
    Dang....guess you're right....these guys really had very little experience:

    Ronald Reagan - many terms as President of Screen Actors Guild, 8 years as Governor of CA (not sure if it was true back then, but if CA could be broken off as a country, it would be something like the 8th or 9th largest economy in the world today)

    George H. Bush - founded his own oil company, served in Congress for 16 years, Ambassador to the UN, Chairman of the Rep National Committee, Director of Central Intelligence, VP for 8 years under Reagan

    Bill Clinton - 1 term as Gov of AK, then Attorney General, then 10 years as Gov

    George W. Bush - Co-owned TX Rangers (no idea what he did, but more duties than a community organizer?), Gov of TX for 6 years (FYI, first Gov in TX history to be elected to 2 consecutive 4 year terms)

    Obama - community organizer, Illinois state senator for 3 terms, teacher, 2 years as US Senator (though most of time spent running for President).

    I believe what you will notice is that the 4 Presidents prior to Obama had one big trait in common, they actually had experience leading an organization. Obama? Nuttin on his resume like that. I simply think one should probably have experience being in charge of something before leading the greatest nation in the world.

    To me, the best Republican for the job in 2012 should be Romney. Romney has been the head of large companies, has even been called in to pull them out of trouble, he was called in to get the 2002 Olympics out of financial trouble and turned it into one of the more successful Olympics, ever. He was also Gov of MA. That, is a resume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenanator View Post
    The left thought W. Bush was a one term-er also. How did that turn out again?
    I seem to recall the dem's picked a LOSER. Oh yeah, I went there! Went to the GIFT SHOP! (bought this cool t-shirt)
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechalex View Post
    obama obama obama blah blah blah
    Exactly! That's what I've been sayin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    Dang....guess you're right....these guys really had very little experience:

    Ronald Reagan - many terms as President of Screen Actors Guild, 8 years as Governor of CA (not sure if it was true back then, but if CA could be broken off as a country, it would be something like the 8th or 9th largest economy in the world today)
    An ACTOR...

    George H. Bush - founded his own oil company, served in Congress for 16 years, Ambassador to the UN, Chairman of the Rep National Committee, Director of Central Intelligence, VP for 8 years under Reagan
    Arguably, the best qualified in recent history, but the argument can be made that leading a business does not equal leading a nation. A CEO has to worry about profits while a leader has to worry about his people. Not really the same.

    Bill Clinton - 1 term as Gov of AK, then Attorney General, then 10 years as Gov
    Nothing wrong with that.

    George W. Bush - Co-owned TX Rangers (no idea what he did, but more duties than a community organizer?), Gov of TX for 6 years (FYI, first Gov in TX history to be elected to 2 consecutive 4 year terms)
    I noticed you did not mention all of the businesses of his that were set up by his father for him to run, that all failed. "Spoiled rich kid" does not equal experience. (FYI Texas is also rewriting our kids history books and talks of succession. Voting for W. twice is not very impressive.)

    Obama - community organizer, Illinois state senator for 3 terms, teacher, 2 years as US Senator (though most of time spent running for President).
    "Teacher" meaning constitutional law professor. Also, for what it is worth, he is a "rags to riches" story which I thought was the American dream, right?

    I believe what you will notice is that the 4 Presidents prior to Obama had one big trait in common, they actually had experience leading an organization. Obama? Nuttin on his resume like that. I simply think one should probably have experience being in charge of something before leading the greatest nation in the world.
    And again I ask, why is an experienced conservative good while an experienced democrat is bad? By using your logic, we should always vote for the incumbent.

    To me, the best Republican for the job in 2012 should be Romney. Romney has been the head of large companies, has even been called in to pull them out of trouble, he was called in to get the 2002 Olympics out of financial trouble and turned it into one of the more successful Olympics, ever. He was also Gov of MA. That, is a resume.
    But using your logic, Obama will have the most experience to be president. 4 years to be exact. 4 years MORE than Romney.

    Obama will enjoy your vote, THANKS!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micael View Post
    I seem to recall the dem's picked a LOSER. Oh yeah, I went there! Went to the GIFT SHOP! (bought this cool t-shirt)
    No, they picked an actual war veteran that the Republicans were all to happy to run an untrue smear campaign on, to get Daddy's little draft dodger back in office...
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