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  1. #381  
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenanator View Post
    Maybe GWB should have used it more so he would have had fewer gaffs...
    Oh oh.....Obama went off the teleprompter....winging it.....sounding like Bush here:

    Twitter Atwitter About President Obama's 'Twitters' Gaffe

    No....you guys are right, he doesn't need the teleprompter.
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  2. #382  
    Quote Originally Posted by tcrunner View Post
    That's a presidential gaffe*?? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Sounds more like the desperate call for help from Michael Steele than anything else.

    *Anyone else wondering if President Bush is still looking for Iraqi WMD under the Oval Office desk?
    Just pointing out what happens when the Great Oz....I mean, Obama....tries to "wing it". He really needs to stick to the teleprompter at all times if he is going to continue this image of being the smart one. Remember what happened when the Great Oz had his curtain pulled back.
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  3. #383  
    Quote Originally Posted by tcrunner View Post
    That's a presidential gaffe*?? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Sounds more like the desperate call for help from Michael Steele than anything else.

    *Anyone else wondering if President Bush is still looking for Iraqi WMD under the Oval Office desk?
    Hilarious. The fact that that is considered a gaffe just points out how hysterically rabid some people are to find anything to criticize. Obama's f8arts are more intelligible than anything that crawled out of Bush's mouth in 8 years. It really is wonderful to have a president that can speak without sounding like a cretinous hillbilly. Now that the duly elected President of the United States has passed historic health care and economic reform packages, with energy likely to get done soon, they are all afluff about the fact that he doesn't know that Twitter doesn't have an S on it. Just sayin'.
  4. #384  
    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Obama's f8arts are more intelligible than anything that crawled out of Bush's mouth in 8 years. It really is wonderful to have a president that can speak without sounding like a cretinous hillbilly.
    Re-read what you posted. This is an incredibly offensive, disrespectful, and meanspirited thing to say about anyone, let alone a former president. Most of my friends are conservative and I would be embarrassed if I heard them say something as 3rd grade as what you said about our president for 8 years. Aren't you a doctor? Don't you have 12 years of education and years of people skills to fall back on when you are thinking about how to reduce another person to your lowest possible standard?
  5. #385  
    Quote Originally Posted by joshaccount View Post
    Re-read what you posted. This is an incredibly offensive, disrespectful, and meanspirited thing to say about anyone, let alone a former president. Most of my friends are conservative and I would be embarrassed if I heard them say something as 3rd grade as what you said about our president for 8 years. Aren't you a doctor? Don't you have 12 years of education and years of people skills to fall back on when you are thinking about how to reduce another person to your lowest possible standard?
    Oh that's just davidra....his personal attacks are legendary in here. He once said a dead man had more thoughts than me, and then defended the statement by saying he wasn't attacking my intelligence...soooooo....I think davidra was actually complimenting Bush. He's a doctor and all, so you have to read a lot into his comments.
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  6. #386  
    Quote Originally Posted by joshaccount View Post
    Re-read what you posted. This is an incredibly offensive, disrespectful, and meanspirited thing to say about anyone, let alone a former president. Most of my friends are conservative and I would be embarrassed if I heard them say something as 3rd grade as what you said about our president for 8 years. Aren't you a doctor? Don't you have 12 years of education and years of people skills to fall back on when you are thinking about how to reduce another person to your lowest possible standard?
    Oh, please. Spare me the feigned disappointment. Bush sounded like a moron. He wasn't, I didn't say he was, but he was an embarassment everytime he spoke. He has to have been the worst communicator in the past fifty years in that office. You re-read what I wrote; I was talking about his absurd lack of eloquence, and nothing more. I find it hilarious that the Twitter comment is considered a gaffe given what came before....8 years of continuous gaffes.

    Excuse me for expecting the President of the United States to sound like he actually went to school. But of course, since Bush went to Yale, he almost certainly knows what the definition of a socialist is, which puts him one up on some people on this forum.
  7. #387  
    Probably knows how many states the USA is comprised of as well.
  8. #388  
    This generation of democrats and liberals is utterly ridiculous. They are the tantamount example of extreme socialism and pseudointellectualism taken to new levels of absurdity. This country will pay dearly for generations to come as a result of these posers' policies and misguided agendas. history will look back on this president and the democratic party as one of the biggest mistakes in American history. that is, if soros permits the media to print the truth and not the liberal agenda spin. sad period in US history. Truly
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  9. #389  
    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Oh, please. Spare me the feigned disappointment. Bush sounded like a moron. He wasn't, I didn't say he was, but he was an embarassment everytime he spoke. He has to have been the worst communicator in the past fifty years in that office. You re-read what I wrote; I was talking about his absurd lack of eloquence, and nothing more. I find it hilarious that the Twitter comment is considered a gaffe given what came before....8 years of continuous gaffes.

    Excuse me for expecting the President of the United States to sound like he actually went to school. But of course, since Bush went to Yale, he almost certainly knows what the definition of a socialist is, which puts him one up on some people on this forum.
    My disappointment is genuine. I've been working for doctors and with doctors for 14 years. I've never met or spoke to one quite like you. I guess I expect more.
  10. #390  
    Quote Originally Posted by tcrunner View Post
    So, you are embarrassed by belligerent conservative posters within these hallowed pages? Yet, your embarrassment is shown by silence? How even-handed of you. The arrogant and childish double-standard is glaringly obvious.
    Absolutely, although I rarely break my silence when dealing with far-right conservatives or far-left liberals, I find them (you) entertaining. davidras specific comments about a former president, in my opinion, are disgusting. I'll save my embarrassment for family and friends if I ever witness such massive disrespect. And davidras a big boy, if he thinks I'm arrogant or childish or in need of a thumbs up, he'll let me know.
  11. #391  
    I live how it is ok for liberals to spout their nonsense, but conservatives are the ones being critized. the hypocrisy is truly priceless
  12. #392  
    Quote Originally Posted by treobk214 View Post
    This generation of RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVES is utterly ridiculous. They are the tantamount example of ANTIINTELLECTUALISM AND MAGICAL THINKING taken to new levels of absurdity. This country will pay dearly for generations to come as a result of these posers' policies and misguided agendas. history will look back on thE PRIOR president and the REPUBLICAN party as one of the biggest mistakes in American history. that is, if LIMBAUGH permits the media to print the truth and not the RIGHTWING agenda spin. sad period in US history. Truly
    There. All fixed.
  13. #393  
    Quote Originally Posted by joshaccount View Post
    My disappointment is genuine. I've been working for doctors and with doctors for 14 years. I've never met or spoke to one quite like you. I guess I expect more.
    Sorry to disappoint you. I'm clearly not meeting your expectations of what my career choice represents. First, I am not representing anyone but myself. My political views do not impact on my work, except that I spend a lot of time providing uncompensated care and fighting with my own administration about that care. Believe me, I hear my peers saying similarly crude and thoughtless things about the current administration on a daily basis, so I'm not sure in what capacity you spend time with doctors. At least I keep my opinions to myself in group meetings.

    I also refuse to act like a passive traditional liberal, wringing my hands while right wing nutjobs use throw-away lines of disdain without responding in kind. While it's extremely unprofessional to do that in person, I have no problem using forums to express my true feelings, as almost anyone here can tell you. I suppose it also means I'm no better than them at times. When I get the chance to converse with someone with the thoughtfulness of say, a William Buckley, I am glad to respond in kind. Unfortunately the right has managed to drive most thoughtful people out of their party by pandering to the religious right, the extreme fringe hate groups and racists, and that buffoon Rush Limbaugh. There is frankly almost nothing about the right or the republican party that I find worthwhile, and those things that I do are discredited by their leadership. Once there were many moderate republicans that I could have supported; now there are two in the senate, and none in the house. Enough self-analysis. Let's just say I'm convinced that if the progressive movement isn't much more aggressive than they have been, we stand a chance of being destroyed as a country. Guess it comes from being around in the '60s.
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  14. #394  
    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Sorry to disappoint you. I'm clearly not meeting your expectations of what my career choice represents..
    My take on doctors, both kinds (I work with MDs, I am a PhD), is the time, energy, money, discipline, etc. dedicated to their career choice has to, by default, make them a superior person. I have trouble envisioning a person completing that process without intellectual self-improvement as a byproduct. So maybe my expectations are inflated.

    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    First, I am not representing anyone but myself. My political views do not impact on my work, except that I spend a lot of time providing uncompensated care and fighting with my own administration about that care. Believe me, I hear my peers saying similarly crude and thoughtless things about the current administration on a daily basis, so I'm not sure in what capacity you spend time with doctors. At least I keep my opinions to myself in group meetings.
    Ok, I hear you. But if you heard someone you knew to be a doctor (your peer or equal) say something utterly rediculous (like calling President Obama an N) about a sitting or former president, wouldn't you be particularly surprised to here that from such a learned individual?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    I also refuse to act like a passive traditional liberal, wringing my hands while right wing nutjobs use throw-away lines of disdain without responding in kind.
    Here you have me beat. I'm probably too passive and should speak up more often regarding issues I'm passionate about. Respecting the office of the president and the person who holds that office, even if I have serious disagreements with that person or his policy, is something I'm passionate about.

    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    and that buffoon Rush Limbaugh.
    Ah yes, common ground


    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Once there were many moderate republicans that I could have supported; now there are two in the senate, and none in the house.
    Who are these two, just curious.

    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Enough self-analysis. Let's just say I'm convinced that if the progressive movement isn't much more aggressive than they have been, we stand a chance of being destroyed as a country. Guess it comes from being around in the '60s.
    Well, here you have me beat again, I was not yet thought of in the 60s. I appreciate the expanded explanation. Isn't it funny that the right-wing nuts think you guys are destroying the country and the extreme libs think the righties are doing the same thing? Someones not telling the truth...
  15. #395  
    Quote Originally Posted by joshaccount View Post
    Well, here you have me beat again, I was not yet thought of in the 60s. I appreciate the expanded explanation. Isn't it funny that the right-wing nuts think you guys are destroying the country and the extreme libs think the righties are doing the same thing? Someones not telling the truth...
    It's the liberals that are not telling the truth Well, all except davidra, he is the most unbiased, intelligent, thoughtful, and honest person I have ever met in a forum. Sorry, sciatica acting up and had to find something to laugh at.
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  16. #396  
    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    -. Sorry, sciatica acting up and had to find something to laugh at.
    Try your baseball team.
  17. #397  
    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Try your baseball team.
    Well....your comment got me to laugh....and you say you don't care! Hey, my Tigers outlasted the Gators (who, in case you forgot, made the first exit from the CWS), so I did get a good laugh from that early exit. Tigers were 25-17 at the end of April and not going anywhere, so, nice end of season run including sweeping the 'Noles, marching through the state of Alabama with wins over Auburn and Alabama in the playoffs, and then beating the # 1 team in the country, Arizona State and a good OU team. Unforunately, ran into a better Gamecock club. Disappointed, but I'll take 3rd (we did exit after TCU) in the country.
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  18. #398  
    Quote Originally Posted by joshaccount View Post
    My take on doctors, both kinds (I work with MDs, I am a PhD), is the time, energy, money, discipline, etc. dedicated to their career choice has to, by default, make them a superior person. I have trouble envisioning a person completing that process without intellectual self-improvement as a byproduct. So maybe my expectations are inflated.

    ...........


    Who are these two, just curious.



    Well, here you have me beat again, I was not yet thought of in the 60s. I appreciate the expanded explanation. Isn't it funny that the right-wing nuts think you guys are destroying the country and the extreme libs think the righties are doing the same thing? Someones not telling the truth...
    Intellectual self-improvement by definition excludes politics. You do need to revise your perspective.

    I consider the two Maine senators to at least pay lipservice to colloboration. Unfortunately they are threatened into submission at times by their leadership. It's as if nobody seems to notice that there are democrats who actually vote their conscience, even if it goes against the leadership. Too bad the republicans don't have that option.

    "Destroying the country" kind of depends on what you envision the country as being....the country we always thought we wanted, with compassion and openness, that cares about it's citizens and it's standing in the world as a leader, or one that cares primarily about the support of corporations, protecting the rich, and throwing those with unfortunate circumstances under the bus and painting them as moochers...like the 1.3 million people who are losing unemployment benefits, in spite of having paid for them, solely because of the political machinations of the republican party. That is not the kind of country that I want, simply, and I really don't much care who knows it. If that's what you want, more power to you. Unfortanately, due to the lack of collaboration, it appears there is no middle ground anymore.
  19. #399  
    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Unfortunately they are threatened into submission at times by their leadership. It's as if nobody seems to notice that there are democrats who actually vote their conscience, even if it goes against the leadership. Too bad the republicans don't have that option.
    Yes....Pelosi would never pressure any of her democrat colleagues. And Rahm, well, he would never do any pressure tactics either, huh? Good grief davidra, surely you don't believe that the democrats don't do the same thing? But yet that is fine, right? You are the Double Standard King! LOL Thanks again for the laugh. How dare the Republican leadership put pressure on their folks! Funny.
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  20. #400  
    Quote Originally Posted by tcrunner View Post
    The humor of the campaign trail joke of having visited 57 states only seems to be lost on those predisposed to Democrat-hate. Why is that? Genetics?
    So it was a joke? your joking right?

    The teleprompter told him to say it?

    Democratic hate? I learned the States and their capitals in the 5th grade. For someone being touted as an intellectual, elegant speaker I expect him to remember how many States there are. Dem, Rep, Ind. whatever.

    The only joke on the campaign trails were how much they cost.

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