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    Good ole strong-willed, anti-gay, virtuous republicans and Christian right-wingers. I can always count on them to come through when things slow down. They're either trying to convert sinners while sinning on the side (Oh, Ted Haggard, Jimmy Swaggert, and that paragon of anti-gay effort George Alan Rekers for a start). or they're bemoaning the breakdown of gays, marriage and family values while tarting it up (Vitter, Ensign, Sanders, Larry Craig and Foley for a start). Not that dems are blameless....they have their Spitzers and Massas and Edwards, it's just that those people never made a political career out of righteousness. Here's a new one. Rep. Mark Souder,a paragon of abstinence, retired yesterday when it became known he had an affair with someone on his staff..... and that he made a vdeo WITH HER supporting abstinence-only education.

    Ya just gotta be amazed at how blatantly hypocritical these people are. Not surprising, but still.....

    Tracy Jackson: Alleged MISTRESS Of Rep. Mark Souder (PICTURE, VIDEO)

    Mark Souder, a Republican congressman from Indiana, has announced that he will resign his seat over an affair with a female aide. Fox News identified Souder's mistress as Tracy Jackson, a "part-time aide who worked in his northern Indiana district office."
    "Jackson is still on staff," Fox News reported. "She is described as being in her mid-40s and married. Jackson handled communications for Souder in the district and periodically travelled with him." Jackson's salary information is available here.
    Last November, Souder's office posted a video of Jackon "interviewing" the Congressman about an abstinence-only education hearing. The caption of the video noted that Souder was "one of the only voices speaking in defense of abstinence education." (This video was pulled from Rep. Souder's YouTube account on Tuesday afternoon, but HuffPost saved a copy of the clip.)

    The affair began after Jackson was hired in a part-time role in 2004, according to a source knowledgeable about the relationship. Jackson, who is married, was hired to play guest host with Souder for a daily radio spot he recorded for WFCV, a Christian radio station in Ft. Wayne. The spots were taped once a week and aired daily. Jackson played host, asking Souder questions about what he was working on in Washington for his constituents.

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    I believe, given their devout religious convictions, these folks (red or blue) feel they can do what they want, repent and live happily ever after in the after life. After all, they are doing gods work.

    Jokes on them...none of that malarkey exists.
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    Seriously? Even while you admit the hypocrisy of the left, in the very same post you feign amazement at the right's hypocrisy?

    Wouldn't you agree that they were all snakes? Is this, then, really a jab at "Christian values"?
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    Gee, the only surprise here is that it took so long for our resident "hypocrisy" hunters to track this one down.
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    This only proves that no one is above the law of God.
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    I really like this discussion on the subject of hypocrisy that I lifted from wikipedia:

    Hypocrisy is the act of persistently professing beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that are inconsistent with one's actions. Hypocrisy is thus a kind of lie.

    The hypocrite thinks that what he usually professes does not somehow apply to him. It is not simply an inconsistency between what is praised or admired and what is done. Samuel Johnson made this point when he wrote about the misuse of the charge of "hypocrisy" in Rambler No. 14:

    Nothing is more unjust, however common, than to charge with hypocrisy him that expresses zeal for those virtues which he neglects to practice; since he may be sincerely convinced of the advantages of conquering his passions, without having yet obtained the victory, as a man may be confident of the advantages of a voyage, or a journey, without having courage or industry to undertake it, and may honestly recommend to others, those attempts which he neglects himself.

    A finer distinction that circumvents this apparent contradiction would be that to espouse an idea, but not live up to it, might simply mean one hasn't yet conquered some self perceived shortfall (as in Samuel Johnson's example). However to condemn others for behavior that the condemner engages in clearly falls outside this gray area and into hypocrisy.


    That all said, what's the "new twist", davidra?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jewel View Post
    This only proves that no one is above the law of God.
    I believe that anyone living in the USA is only subject to the laws of the court and those of legislation (save perhaps those with diplomatic immunity).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micael View Post

    That all said, what's the "new twist", davidra?
    Oh, just that he used his mistress to make the video pushing abstinence education. I found that...intriguing.

    John Edwards and Eliot Spitzer may be idiots, but neither based their political stance on virtuosity or abstinence. Eric Massa was not fervently anti-gay. None of them claimed to be able to cure "gayness" while hiring a companion from Rentboy.com, and none of them railed about family values as their platform. If a conservative democrat did the same thing, they would be just as hypocritical. Do you really not see any difference in those situations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryleyinstl View Post
    I believe that anyone living in the USA is only subject to the laws of the court and those of legislation (save perhaps those with diplomatic immunity).
    And anyone living on this Earth is subject to God's law. As sure as all people will all die one day it's sure that we will all face God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jewel View Post
    And anyone living on this Earth is subject to God's law. As sure as all people will all die one day it's sure that we will all face God.
    god/religion are a man made joke. played on all of man kind. there is absolutely no proof that any of the things written down in those books, koran, bible, etc etc.. are true. To say that because its written, makes it a fact, wow. prophets lol ok, sure, whatever...
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Oh, just that he used his mistress to make the video pushing abstinence education. I found that...intriguing.

    John Edwards and Eliot Spitzer may be idiots, but neither based their political stance on virtuosity or abstinence. Eric Massa was not fervently anti-gay. None of them claimed to be able to cure "gayness" while hiring a companion from Rentboy.com, and none of them railed about family values as their platform. If a conservative democrat did the same thing, they would be just as hypocritical. Do you really not see any difference in those situations?
    Really? Spitzer was New York Attorney General, and he focused on many cases, including corruption and prostitution.... Ooops! So much for your "theory".
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    well, hate to say this david, but i have to agree with micael. there really is no new twist here. These bible thumping, conservative wackos, will use damn near anything to get our attention. Even when you disagree with these wackos, they have still won, by the mere fact you listened to them. They brought attention to themselves, which is exactly what they wanted. Some here have said they cant wait for October and the next round of voting, at this rate, anything the Democrats loose, will be more then offset by what these right wing wackos get caught doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    If a conservative democrat did the same thing, they would be just as hypocritical. Do you really not see any difference in those situations?
    "Conservative Democrat" ??

    Isn't that a little like saying Moe was the "smart" stooge?
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    "Conservative Democrat" ??

    Isn't that a little like saying Moe was the "smart" stooge?
    that was brilliant!
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    The biggest issue here is that she is cute, and he is a chubby old fart.

    He must have used a roofy.

    She could do much better if she wanted to ruin her marriage...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjeffcoat View Post
    "Conservative Democrat" ??

    Isn't that a little like saying Moe was the "smart" stooge?
    Perfect analogy
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    Quote Originally Posted by jewel View Post
    And anyone living on this Earth is subject to God's law. As sure as all people will all die one day it's sure that we will all face God.
    A wise man once told me to pray into my left hand and **** into my right and see which one fills up faster. Sorry kiddo, none of it's real. Bible stories about facing God one day just doesn't translate into reality. But lets stay on topic, whats next davidra, republicans caught telling campaign lies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cantaffordit View Post
    The biggest issue here is that she is cute, and he is a chubby old fart.

    He must have used a roofy.

    She could do much better if she wanted to ruin her marriage...
    damn your right.. what the hell was that guy doing with her.. she aint too bad at all..
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjeffcoat View Post
    "Conservative Democrat" ??

    Isn't that a little like saying Moe was the "smart" stooge?
    You're absolutely right. A conservative democrat is extremely....challenged. They should instead go to where they fit in. You know, a reverse Spector. That would raise the IQ in both parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    You're absolutely right. A conservative democrat is extremely....challenged. They should instead go to where they fit in. You know, a reverse Spector. That would raise the IQ in both parties.
    Until they get voted out
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