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    In 1994 in response to an Australian drilling platform loss and large spill a plan to deal with large oil spills was developed.

    It involves the near immediate use of "fire booms" that are used to surround a spill and burn it off by maintaining flames on the booms.

    Guess what? Only got 1 such section of boom in the U.S. Government failed to prepare to implement the plan by not having assets available and so did BP because they weren't required to.
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    I believe Obama did not fully understand that there was laws passed to cap the liability when he made that announcement.

    Remember, he came out quickly with an announcement and tried to reassure everyone, did he know all the laws in place at that very moment when things were going so fast.

    Did he know that quickly that BP lied about the how bad the spill was, he was duped just like everyone else.

    It does take a few days to gather all the information which is changing by the minute.

    At least he has been attempting to talk directly to the people without those fancy backdrops, remember Bush!

    And he did not do fly overs, with a picture of him looking out an airplane window!

    I say, get over it and grow up!

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    First and foremost this is BP's major screw up. They should take the majority of the heat and even though I am an Obama supporter in this case I believe the government has not given this situation the attention it deserves. It's not all on Obama's shoulders either, congress is just as guilty and not just current members. Exxon Valdez and other ecological disasters ought to have taught us how to avoid and manage these types of situations.
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    What do you expect from the guy who gave us the Reverend Wright and Tony Rezko. Reminds me of the old politician's joke about "how can you tell when he's lying, his lips are moving."
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    your post does not make no sense READ the title of the thread ..







    Quote Originally Posted by sonjohn1 View Post
    What do you expect from the guy who gave us the Reverend Wright and Tony Rezko. Reminds me of the old politician's joke about "how can you tell when he's lying, his lips are moving."
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    I think it's socialism for the government to get involved. Leave BP alone! They'll take care of it. No need for the government sticking their nose where it doesn't belong. If the Gulf fills with oil, so be it. The planet will take care of itself. So what if people's livelihood is at stake? They're too lazy to get better jobs, so to hell with them!
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    November is only 6 mos. away.
    NoObama day could be 991 days away.
    Make that is 991 days away. There is just no way he will get reelected.
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    what a garbage original post. How can you blame Obama for a law enacted before he was in office? And how can you blame him for stating the law. There is no lie. he's done nothing but state the liability. Hell conservatives have been fighting laws to require rigid safety laws for offshore drilling for decades. Sorry that the chickens have come home to roost. Not only did they catch a terrorist before he got out of the country but they've dealt with a cataclysmic oil company **** up that's been nothing but supported by conservatives in the pocket of big oil. Makes no difference. as those that hate obama are not rational and hate him regardless. And never have been. talking to them is like trying to reason with a doorknob.
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    ^^Sorry but what they did to that guy was pure SOCIALISM in my book! That individual had rights and should have been allowed to leave in peace. The last thing I need is my government sticking their necks in where it doesn't belong. The guy was simply leaving on a trip, exercising his God given rights to visit his family. Jeez, I can't wait for Sarah Palin to run for president! Enough with this socialist government!
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    Quote Originally Posted by groovy View Post
    Unless I'm mistaken, there is a jurisdictional difference between this disaster and Katrina that makes a comparison of response time between the two not entirely appropriate. Since this happened more than 10 miles off coast, it was federal jurisdiction from day one.
    True. No incompetent state & local officials to wait a couple days before asking the Feds for help.

    It is also too soon to label BP as negligent since the exact cause of the accident is not known. Until engineers are able to fully examine the wreckage, people are just speculating what might have gone wrong. It is expected that the litigation over the resulting damage is going to cost more than the actual clean up.
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    Yes, yes you all are right! I know if Bush was president, he would have been down there in a submersible himself fixing that leak the very next day!!! He would have talked to Jesus who would have told him how bad the leak was. There would absolutely be no need for BP to send their robotic submersibles down there to assess the seriousness of the leak. Bush would have had that capped and fixed up in no time. 5 days tops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micael View Post
    And again, you ignore the blatant lies.
    Please document specific lies. You actually have no idea whether or not BP will end up paying for all of the cleanup, which they are required to do. There are caps on other payments, but congress may be fixing that limit. So where are these lies, please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darreno1 View Post
    Yes, yes you all are right! I know if Bush was president, he would have been down there in a submersible himself fixing that leak the very next day!!! He would have talked to Jesus who would have told him how bad the leak was. There would absolutely be no need for BP to send their robotic submersibles down there to assess the seriousness of the leak. Bush would have had that capped and fixed up in no time. 5 days tops.
    No....if Bush was still President he would be being blamed for the accident....and likely....there would have been some claiming he was behind the whole thing....you know....like how he planned the whole 9/11 deal? There would have been articles out by now some how connecting him to the faulty valve that didn't work. Good grief, poor Obama, he actually is getting to the point in his Presidency where it is getting harder and harder to blame everything on Bush.....ROFL.....it's tough when the buck stops on your desk, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackmagic01 View Post
    what a garbage original post. How can you blame Obama for a law enacted before he was in office? And how can you blame him for stating the law. There is no lie. he's done nothing but state the liability. Hell conservatives have been fighting laws to require rigid safety laws for offshore drilling for decades. Sorry that the chickens have come home to roost. Not only did they catch a terrorist before he got out of the country but they've dealt with a cataclysmic oil company **** up that's been nothing but supported by conservatives in the pocket of big oil. Makes no difference. as those that hate obama are not rational and hate him regardless. And never have been. talking to them is like trying to reason with a doorknob.
    Obviously you misread or do not understand the original post. It said nothing Obama stating anything about any law. Try reading and try to understand the post next time before you go off on someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Please document specific lies. You actually have no idea whether or not BP will end up paying for all of the cleanup, which they are required to do. There are caps on other payments, but congress may be fixing that limit. So where are these lies, please?
    What? I have to repeat myself now? Did you not read the article in the orig post and the link to the video?

    What part didn't you understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micael View Post
    What? I have to repeat myself now? Did you not read the article in the orig post and the link to the video?

    What part didn't you understand?
    Oh, I read it. Funny thing, the word "lie" never appears in either one. That's a word you added, with you inimitable clarity of vision. You are upset about a comment that Napolitano made about the Pentagon's involvement, when in fact she might not have even known whether they were involved or not....and you don't know that either, in spite of the fact that you think you do. I agree with the previous poster: grow up and get over it. You keep stretching to try and find something to pin on Obama and it isn't going to happen here.
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    How is it my issue? I need to grow up and get over it? They spin and lie about when they became fully engaged with what could turn out to be one of the biggest ecological disasters in decades, and I'm the one with the problem for pointing it out?
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    i think if you look back at the timeline of Katrina vs this oil spill there is a distinct difference.
    Day one after Katrina, the whole freaking US knew how bad it was including Bushyet he did nothing, including days afterward.
    Day one after oil spill, no one knew how bad it was.
    the ramp up of information on the spill has been slow. Not defending Obama here, just like to compare apples to apples..
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    Quote Originally Posted by xForsaken View Post
    i think if you look back at the timeline of Katrina vs this oil spill there is a distinct difference.
    Day one after Katrina, the whole freaking US knew how bad it was including Bushyet he did nothing, including days afterward.
    Day one after oil spill, no one knew how bad it was.
    the ramp up of information on the spill has been slow. Not defending Obama here, just like to compare apples to apples..
    I understand and agree. But I'm not comparing when they should have been involved. I'm looking at what they said, and when.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micael View Post
    Lol... you keep invoking Bush. How much longer does Obama have to measure up to his predecessor?

    He's a big boy. Let him take responsibility for his own messes
    How is an offshore rig blowing up his mess? People do not blame Bush for Katrina, but for his lack of response to it. Why no blame for BP? This is their responsibility. Why no blame for the contractors that were working on the rig, Haliburton?

    This could have all been prevented but Cheney led the charge to deregulate offshore drilling and making it OK for rigs to not have "acustic valves" (google it) because $500,000.00 is too much for an oil company to pay for the prevention of this type of spill.
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