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  1. KAM1138
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    Hello everyone,

    I guess using the "logic" of the OPer here, we should then blame every criminal act of someone "poor" against someone "rich" (robbery, theft, mugging) on the Democrats, because they engage in class warfare rhetoric all the time. Also, blame should be put on anyone with ANY sort of socialist or communist leanings, and also anyone who advocates any sort of progressive tax or redistribution of wealth.

    Now, normally, I would have considered such an outlandish claim to be irresponsible and well...just plain stupid, but apparently, here in a thread such as this, clearly idiocy is welcomed and encouraged. Since this sort of utter stupidity is the norm, let's just go ahead and run with it shall we? How many thousands of deaths a year are caused by these radical anti-rich people who encourage the poor to attack and murder the rich, just by their very words.

    But let's look into the mind of this nut-case shall we? Apparently his rantings are available, and include the following:

    Why is it that a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for scores of years) and when it’s time for their gravy train to crash under the weight of their gluttony and overwhelming stupidity, the force of the full federal government has no difficulty coming to their aid within days if not hours?

    Hmmm, now where have I heard bashing of Executives...oh that's right--from a bunch of Leftists in Government. Surely THEY are to blame for this guy's actions right? I mean--how could any reasonable person think otherwise. They SHARED THE SAME VIEW OF EXECUTIVES--that's CLEARLY why this guy did what he did right?

    He also ranted:
    The intent of this exercise and our efforts was to bring about a much-needed re-evaluation of the laws that allow the monsters of organized religion to make such a mockery of people who earn an honest living.

    Monsters of Religion. Uh-oh, sounds like an Anti-Religious nut-case to me. Better round up all the Atheists and put them on trial for complicity in this guy's actions. They are Obviously to blame for this guys actions. They should be silenced immediately at the very minimum. Moderators--please ban EVERYONE who doesn't believe in God, because if not, then you are obviously helping these radicals encourage people to attack government buildings. You don't want to be responsible for that do you?

    And more ranting:
    However, this is where I learned that there are two “interpretations” for every law; one for the very rich, and one for the rest of us… Oh, and the monsters are the very ones making and enforcing the laws; the inquisition is still alive and well today in this country.

    And oh yes--a bit of Class warfare there: Sounds like Classic Leftist rhetoric to me. Sounds a lot like the "Two Americas" that Democrats talk about doesn't it?

    Of course, all of the above is just stupid (mockery of stupidity)--sort of like the idiotic claims of the petty little minds who come rely on blaming innocent people they dislike if they "reason" out some similarities. It shows you the depth of deceit that these people rely on in order to forward what they want--which is essentially to silence anyone who disagrees with them. The goal is to intimidate people into silence by smearing them by linking them to people they have NOTHING to do with--like this nut-case who ran a plane into a building.

    Of course if one understands personal responsibility, they wouldn't try to make the actions of a nut-case into something to smear others with in the first place, but clearly, these sorts of crazy concepts are unknown to people like the OPer.

    Great job genius,
    KAM
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayo1024 View Post
    It wasn't owned it was leased. He rented it.
    Ah, forgive me. That makes it so much more affordable.
  3. #63  
    KAM, are rich or a government official? It seems that you always miss the point of topics and have something waaaay off base to spit back. You know like I know, this country and the people that run it and their followers, are messed up. It's in plain view now and cats like you usually hold up change and progress. All I can tell you is, read. The Freedom of Information Act is your friend. Get some knowledge. And not from your peer group.
  4. KAM1138
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    Quote Originally Posted by big****t View Post
    KAM, are rich or a government official? It seems that you always miss the point of topics and have something waaaay off base to spit back. You know like I know, this country and the people that run it and their followers, are messed up. It's in plain view now and cats like you usually hold up change and progress. All I can tell you is, read. The Freedom of Information Act is your friend. Get some knowledge. And not from your peer group.
    I'm afraid based on your post that I'm not able to discern what you are intending to say, other than that you dislike what I've said.

    KAM
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    Ah, forgive me. That makes it so much more affordable.
    Really...geez...not much difference between buying a plane and renting a plane for a couple of hours. That is such a minor point. I mean, not everyone can afford a $1000 to rent a plane and I doubt his family will get back any deposit....so he must have been a very wealthy person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bujin View Post
    Where did he state he liked Obama? Did you even read his manifesto?

    I don't know if Stack was a tea-partier, but one could see how his statements reflect their positions:
    It's been noted all around that his comments land all over the board. He also supported the failed (so far) healthcare bill.

    Why are you and davidra so interested in painting him as a teabagger? He may have held some opinions that we all could agree with, and some that we don't. That has nothing to do with the fact that ultimately he was a total nutjob.

    Along these lines, had Amy Bishop NOT been such a poster child of liberal elite and Obama supporter; but instead a teabagger... or had been seen sipping tea once at a party... she'd still be in the headlines and talked about all over the media. In fact, davidra or Bujin would probably have devoted a thread to her. Funny how she's pretty much ignored in the press and by the talking heads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    Ah, forgive me. That makes it so much more affordable.
    What? You mean you don't rent a plane now and then?
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  8.    #68  
    Quote Originally Posted by KAM1138 View Post
    Leave me out of your pathetic little exercise in intellectual cowardice.

    I know you like to run your mouth off and make a fool of yourself, and demonstrate your inability to read things in proper context, and unwillingness to understand something instead of distort it to work out whatever issue you have, and then slink away like a coward when I'm forced to take the time to point out your petty falsehoods, but I'm getting pretty damn sick of it.

    I guess in a mind like yours (such that it is) its ok to Elect a President that associates with Unrepentant Terrorists (who actually do blow up buildings and kill people), but if you simply voice your dislike about what your government is doing then an intellectual coward like you will link millions of innocent people to any nut-case that comes along (like this guy) if he happens to have any similar views. Oh yes--such a brilliant exercise in thinking there from the good Doctor. You're nothing more than a low-grade smear merchant, exhibiting no greater understanding than some petty thug.

    You apparently have no problem with President Obama actually having associated with an unrepentant Terrorist, but have big problems with people who DON'T actually do that. The depth of your hypocrisy is staggering. Or are you just so blinded by your hatred that you simply deny things that don't fit your wants?

    As usual, you've done nothing more than demonstrate your eagerness to act like a spoiled brat who simply cannot tolerate the existence of views that don't match yours. You're a disgrace.

    KAM
    Drat. And here all along I was so sure I was following in your footsteps in terms of open-mindedness. After all, your "tolerance" of other views is truly legendary. That and your arrogance. Not that I haven't been called arrogant as well....but I try and restrict my arrogance to my profession, whereas you appear to have no bounds to yours.

    "Voicing your dislike of government" isn't exactly the same as crashing your airplane into the IRS, now, is it? Or maybe you consider that reasonable? If so, please continue to voice away.

    And as far as making a fool of oneself, I again strongly recommend the mirror test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micael View Post
    It's been noted all around that his comments land all over the board. He also supported the failed (so far) healthcare bill.

    Why are you and davidra so interested in painting him as a teabagger? He may have held some opinions that we all could agree with, and some that we don't. That has nothing to do with the fact that ultimately he was a total nutjob.
    That's why I posted the link I did, and stated I thought that one could reasonably discern elements of the right and the left in his diatribe. But as I stated, to me his anti-tax stance and railing about how awful the government and corporations are sounds more like teabaggers than the extreme left. But that's my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micael View Post
    Along these lines, had Amy Bishop NOT been such a poster child of liberal elite and Obama supporter; but instead a teabagger... or had been seen sipping tea once at a party... she'd still be in the headlines and talked about all over the media. In fact, davidra or Bujin would probably have devoted a thread to her. Funny how she's pretty much ignored in the press and by the talking heads.
    Huh? She didn't publish an anti-goverment manifesto and try and kill federal workers. One faculty member I knew was killed by a grad student who wasn't given his Ph.D.; unfortunately, not that unusual a happening. But somehow because she had been at Harvard that makes her a liberal elitist? It's reasonable to assume her political beliefs had nothing to do with the murders she committed; that appears not to be true of Stack. Yes, they are both "crazy", and both acted out of anger....but their actions and targets were very different.
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    Oh oh....turns out that woman professor who killed the 3 professors last week was an Obama fanatic. You know what this means? Yes, Obama fans are prone to shoot people when they don't get what they feel they deserve. This is horrible....I mean....I hope some of the Obama fanatics in here (davidra, daThomas, etc) don't find out where those of us that have been critical of Obama live!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    Oh oh....turns out that woman professor who killed the 3 professors last week was an Obama fanatic. You know what this means? Yes, Obama fans are prone to shoot people when they don't get what they feel they deserve. This is horrible....I mean....I hope some of the Obama fanatics in here (davidra, daThomas, etc) don't find out where those of us that have been critical of Obama live!!!!
    Hey...excellent non sequitur. Or one might just say "post hoc ergo propter hoc". If an Obama fanatic killed Glen Beck, your comment might make sense...but it doesn't.

    C'mon. You can do better than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Huh? She didn't publish an anti-goverment manifesto and try and kill federal workers. One faculty member I knew was killed by a grad student who wasn't given his Ph.D.; unfortunately, not that unusual a happening. But somehow because she had been at Harvard that makes her a liberal elitist? It's reasonable to assume her political beliefs had nothing to do with the murders she committed; that appears not to be true of Stack. Yes, they are both "crazy", and both acted out of anger....but their actions and targets were very different.
    So.... the difference of actions and targets drives the level of media focus. Not the polical leanings of the perp. Gotcha. I'll remember that the next time some right wing whacko knocks off an abortion clinic doctor. I'm sure his political leanings will play little in the reporting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micael View Post
    So.... the difference of actions and targets drives the level of media focus. Not the polical leanings of the perp. Gotcha. I'll remember that the next time some right wing whacko knocks off an abortion clinic doctor. I'm sure his political leanings will play little in the reporting.

    You're kidding, right? You want to back up and look at what you just wrote? That is a politically-based act (or religious....take your pick). He murdered the doctor because of his religious/political beliefs. This woman murdered someone who refused to give her tenure. You can try and make something political out of that, but it won't be easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    You're kidding, right? You want to back up and look at what you just wrote? That is a politically-based act (or religious....take your pick). He murdered the doctor because of his religious/political beliefs. This woman murdered someone who refused to give her tenure. You can try and make something political out of that, but it won't be easy.
    You're missing the point. It's not the politics. Its the madness of the perp. The excuse they latch on to as "cause" is just that... an excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidra View Post
    Hey...excellent non sequitur. Or one might just say "post hoc ergo propter hoc". If an Obama fanatic killed Glen Beck, your comment might make sense...but it doesn't.

    C'mon. You can do better than that.
    Makes perfect sense....Obama and the liberal agenda has taught certain people they deserve certain things. So, she, being an Obama apostle, took this to heart and when she didn't get what she wanted, well, it just wasn't fair and it was time to make her point and go kill to prove her point and get what she deserved. She is following the liberal agenda of trying to get what you deserve, not what you earn. So.....my comment stays. I mean, if an angry man can be connected to a group based on what he says in a letter....makes sense that an angry woman can be connected to a group based on her Obama faith. Can't have it both ways davidra Of course, I give you liberals credit, you always try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micael View Post
    You're missing the point. It's not the politics. Its the madness of the perp. The excuse they latch on to as "cause" is just that... an excuse.
    He doesn't get it.....besides....his mind is clouded with disappointment of the Tar Heels being really bad this year. I'm giving davidra a little bit of a pass lately because Tar Heels live for this time of year...and....well...it ain't going so well. Tar Heel fans are just reaching for anything these days.....davidra reaches to bash teabaggers or anyone resembling one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    Ah, forgive me. That makes it so much more affordable.
    There are places where you can rent a small plane for a few hours or days if you are a licensed pilot and meet the criteria.
    Get a grip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    Makes perfect sense....Obama and the liberal agenda has taught certain people they deserve certain things. So, she, being an Obama apostle, took this to heart and when she didn't get what she wanted, well, it just wasn't fair and it was time to make her point and go kill to prove her point and get what she deserved. She is following the liberal agenda of trying to get what you deserve, not what you earn. So.....my comment stays. I mean, if an angry man can be connected to a group based on what he says in a letter....makes sense that an angry woman can be connected to a group based on her Obama faith. Can't have it both ways davidra Of course, I give you liberals credit, you always try.
    Keep stretching. Somehow I figured even Clemson had a course in logic, but I guess not. The "angry man" not only wrote a letter about it, he drove a plane into the building. There is a direct relationship between his letter, his politics, and his murder/suicide. It's amazing to me that you can't see that; in fact, I'm going to assume you are just being irrational because it's humorous. Like I said...non sequitur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micael View Post
    You're missing the point. It's not the politics. Its the madness of the perp. The excuse they latch on to as "cause" is just that... an excuse.
    I'm not so sure. My guess is that she probably meets some definition of insanity. I'm not sure he would. Both were angry, to be sure....but he acted on his political beliefs. She acted on anger toward the academic system.

    Would you agree that terrorists who murder people probably don't meet the definition of insanity?
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