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  1.    #1  
    This is scary stuff:

    " The average young American now spends practically every waking minute except for the time in school using a smartphone, computer, television or other electronic device, according to a new study from the Kaiser Family Foundation.

    Eight- to 18-year-olds spend more than 71/2 hours a day with such devices, compared with less than 61/2 hours five years ago, when the study was last conducted. And that does not count the 11/2 hours that youths spend texting, or the half-hour they talk on their cell phones."

    Hooked on electronics

    I recently noticed this article about UK tennis player Andy Murray:

    Kim Sears and Andy Murray Break-up Due to Playstation Addiction - Kim Sears - Zimbio
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    I've been "hooked" on electronics since i was 3. Now i make a living off the stuff. I make $150k+ each year. I live comfortably in my 4 bed 2 bath 2 car garage with 2 cars and enjoy doing what I do. I owe it all to this "addiction". These kids will grow up to invent or re-invent the devices we love today. So let them do what they're passionate about. Whether it be art, sports, music or electronics, its a lot better than gangs and drugs.I grew up playing video games (about 8 hrs a day) and turned out fine. I don't play as much as I used to but I don't regret doing so. I love my electronics and video games,without them my life just wouldn't be the same. I love my life.
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    Well there is something beneficial in having access to anything you'd want to know at your finger-tips, and as our devices continue to evolve, (as with social media), you can essentially be connected to every person and their own thoughts and experiences.

    I'm sure older people will say it's the deterioration future generations, as was said with generations before them. It's simply a shift in thoughts and actions which older individuals cannot conform to, and simply complain or release articles about how negative the changes are rather than putting that energy toward finding all the benefits.

    Sure, a lot of people fall toward commercialism, being attached to devices or objects than other people, becoming shallow, but there are individuals who fall into these thoughts no matter what the poison.
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    the thing is the people doing this research would be just as addicted if the tech existed when they were kids so theres no real change
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobKy View Post
    except for the time in school using a smartphone, computer, television or other electronic device
    Actually, I am in school right now and I use each one of those things all day during school as well. A computer for class work, and there is a projector in every room here. I use the smartphone under the table, hehehe
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    Kids using electronic devices is not always a bad thing. My 7 yr old son has Asberger's Syndrome which is a mild form of Autism. Kids with these conditions can accomplish much more with a computer then they can by trying to write on paper. My son kept failing his spelling tests until they started letting him type his spelling words on the computer, now he passes the tests.
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    I also think that "addicted" is a bit of an over-reaction. I was using computer technology long before it was commonplace. I'm sure my parents would claim that I was "addicted" but in reality, it's really not an addiction at all. (It's also rather insulting to those that do actually suffer an addiction.)

    The reality is that there is a significant advantage to having digital information, especially when it is in a handy device. Conversely, I still think it's good for anyone, regardless of age, to know how to deal in an "analog" situation. For example, being able to contact someone if their phone/computer/Internet/power is completely down. Natural disasters especially require such an "analog" mindset.

    But, saying that exposure, even large amounts of exposure, to technology is a bad thing is an oversimplification. Technology is a tool, and like any tool, can be used for both good and bad purposes.
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    I think the word "addicted" is very often misused, and as Palmzero said in post 2, better electronics than drugs and gangs.
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    I too started at a young age- I remember leaning over my dads epson beast that he had when I was 3... now 24, that was a while ago. I was typing and understanding DOS by age 4 or 5.... now if there is something I cant do- I simply read about it and utilize my years of hands-on learning to figure it out myself and no longer attempt to rely on others to do it for me.

    I think its a positive thing. Even my younger brother who just turned 21 is beginning to surpass myself.
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    Addict:

    "2. To occupy (oneself) with or involve (oneself) in something habitually or compulsively: The child was addicted to video games."

    addicted - definition of addicted by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

    While searching for the definition of addiction, I ran across this:

    Self Tests

    Apparently, the impact of this electronic device use has yet to be determined. However, when you look at the level of obesity in young people today, what are the causes? The epidemic of obesity is apparently leading to a rapid increase in diabetes rates and other health related problems.

    When, in the case of Andy Murray, above, your girl friend breaks up with you because you are spending 7 hours a day playing video games,then I believe it is fair to say he might be addicted to them and might interfering with his life..
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    I think it comes down to whether or not their "addiction" negatively impacts other areas of their lives, i.e., family and friend relations, schoolwork, health, etc. If it does, then it's a problem. If it doesn't, then it's probably ok.

    I'm addicted to chocolate, and so far I've been able to manage that addiction AND make it to work in the morning.
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    I'm still trying to figure out why this is "scary." Perhaps the OP would like to give his opinion? Times change, and people change with them. It's probably better than spending ALL that time in front of a TV.

    Those of us who remember the "old days" are generally the ones that see a problem here, but somehow I'm not convinced that playing cops and robbers, or roller skating, or even playing marbles was somehow "better" or more educational or helped me survive modern life better than TVs, computers and cell phones do.

    The addiction argument is a red herring. The fact that someone chooses to spend lots of time doing something doesn't mean they can't stop. My son, almost 18, spends lots of time on the computer, and texting. But he still gets his homework done, still goes out and does things with friends, still eats and bathes and runs on the track team.

    I spend an awful lot of time working, but I don't think I'm addicted to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobKy View Post
    Apparently, the impact of this electronic device use has yet to be determined. However, when you look at the level of obesity in young people today, what are the causes? The epidemic of obesity is apparently leading to a rapid increase in diabetes rates and other health related problems.

    When, in the case of Andy Murray, above, your girl friend breaks up with you because you are spending 7 hours a day playing video games,then I believe it is fair to say he might be addicted to them and might interfering with his life..
    I don't believe obesity and electronic devices go hand in hand. But it has been proven that diabetes rates are due to how much and when your grandparents ate rather than your own obesity.

    And it's hard to say how much is too much, if you spend 8 hours at work you could have upwards of 10 free hours a day. It's not unreasonable to spend 7 hours using the computer for entertainment, chances are he'd would have just sat and watched TV that long anyway, the difference is with a TV you both do nothing together while on a computer one person watches while the other plays. I would say in the case of a girlfriend they just weren't a good match. Children are another story however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alex.dobeck View Post
    I don't believe obesity and electronic devices go hand in hand. But it has been proven that diabetes rates are due to how much and when your grandparents ate rather than your own obesity...

    Children are another story however.
    Obesity in children and adolescents has more than doubled the last 30 years.

    Why?

    Certainly, genetic factors can't change that fast. That leaves behavioral and Environmental Factors;it would appear that obesity and electronic devices may be linked:

    "Several studies have found a positive association between the time spent viewing television and increased prevalence of obesity in children."


    Obesity and Overweight for Professionals: Childhood: Contributing Factors | DNPAO | CDC



    Obesity is a serious health concern for children and adolescents. Data from NHANES surveys (19761980 and 20032006) show that the prevalence of obesity has increased: for children aged 25 years, prevalence increased from 5.0% to 12.4%; for those aged 611 years, prevalence increased from 6.5% to 17.0%; and for those aged 1219 years, prevalence increased from 5.0% to 17.6%.

    Obesity and Overweight for Professionals: Childhood | DNPAO | CDC


    Obesity and diabetes;

    "Obesity is a strong risk factor for type 2 diabetes. Obesity is most risky for young people and for people who have been obese for a long time."

    Genetics of Diabetes - American Diabetes Association

    "As obesity rates in children continue to soar, type 2 diabetes, a disease that used to be seen primarily in adults over age 45, is becoming more common in young people."

    Diabetes Information for Children and Teens | NDEP


    I don't think we can only blame electronic device use for the rapidly rising rates of obesity and diabetes;but,I don't think we can ignore it,either.
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    Its called media sensationalism. It sells magazines and gets clicks.

    Kids these days are sure weird and annoying but calling them addicts is a little over the top.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobKy View Post
    When, in the case of Andy Murray, above, your girl friend breaks up with you because you are spending 7 hours a day playing video games,then I believe it is fair to say he might be addicted to them and might interfering with his life..
    What if she was a pain in the neck and he was tired of her crap?

    That sounds like a National Enquirer headline to me. Quite frankly I think the people that believe that stuff have a much bigger problem.
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    Please, I bet most of us here are addicted to our electronics. I know I am and I'm 40 years old and have no problem admitting it. I think most youths are, but I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing.

    However, there's no doubt that electronics negatively affect the health of children. Instead of playing ball or riding a bicycle they are playing games. There's nothing wrong with electronics, they have improved our life tremendously, but I think we need to make sure our children have a balanced life of the joys of electronics and physical activity.
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    I don't think it's just kids that are addicted to these tech toys..
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobKy View Post
    Obesity in children and adolescents has more than doubled the last 30 years.

    Why?

    Certainly, genetic factors can't change that fast. That leaves behavioral and Environmental Factors;it would appear that obesity and electronic devices may be linked:

    "Several studies have found a positive association between the time spent viewing television and increased prevalence of obesity in children."


    [url= and Overweight for Professionals: Childhood: Contributing Factors | DNPAO | CDC[/url]



    Obesity is a serious health concern for children and adolescents. Data from NHANES surveys (19761980 and 20032006) show that the prevalence of obesity has increased: for children aged 25 years, prevalence increased from 5.0% to 12.4%; for those aged 611 years, prevalence increased from 6.5% to 17.0%; and for those aged 1219 years, prevalence increased from 5.0% to 17.6%.

    [url= and Overweight for Professionals: Childhood | DNPAO | CDC[/url]


    Obesity and diabetes;

    "Obesity is a strong risk factor for type 2 diabetes. Obesity is most risky for young people and for people who have been obese for a long time."

    [url= of Diabetes - American Diabetes Association[/url]

    "As obesity rates in children continue to soar, type 2 diabetes, a disease that used to be seen primarily in adults over age 45, is becoming more common in young people."

    [url= Information for Children and Teens | NDEP[/url]


    I don't think we can only blame electronic device use for the rapidly rising rates of obesity and diabetes;but,I don't think we can ignore it,either.
    You forgot the eating too much food part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickDG View Post
    You forgot the eating too much food part.
    That was included in this link;look under "Energy intake."

    "Evidence is limited on specific foods or dietary patterns that contribute to excessive energy intake in children and teens. However, large portion sizes for food and beverages, eating meals away from home, frequent snacking on energy-dense foods and consuming beverages with added sugar are often hypothesized as contributing to excess energy intake of children and teens."

    Obesity and Overweight for Professionals: Childhood: Contributing Factors | DNPAO | CDC
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    yeah, i addicted too..hahaha

    im one of that kiddo
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