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    Personalized Search for everyone

    Up until now, you had to be signed in to a Google service for Personalized Search results to be served up, NOW everyone will be served Personalized Results based on your past clicks.

    One problem with this is it creates tunnel vision when you search. The innerwebs are great because you can see different sites/ideas you where unaware of before.

    A second issue with this is new quality websites will have a much harder time getting traction.

    Nope! I just don't like it. What are your thoughts about the GORG?
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    I don't like it either. I want clean results.

    I did what some other site suggested(think it was Gizmodo), I went under my account and deleted "web history" entirely, so they can't use it. Although that may not help those who don't have an account.

    P.S. I found the page on Giz. You can go to Google to clear out your history, even if you have no account.

    http://gizmodo.com/5419440/your-next...-freak-you-out
    Last edited by The Phone Diva; 12/09/2009 at 07:26 PM.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Phone Diva View Post
    I don't like it either. I want clean results.

    I did what some other site suggested(think it was Gizmodo), I went under my account and deleted "web history" entirely, so they can't use it. Although that may not help those who don't have an account.

    P.S. I found the page on Giz. You can go to Google to clear out your history, even if you have no account.

    Your Next Google Search Is Going to Freak You Out - Google Search - Gizmodo
    The procedure for clearing your "history" with no account is pretty convoluted for the average User. You have to delete your Google cookie. No one is going to do that.
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    If you're signed out, "web history" shows up on the search results page, and you can click on it to disable or enable tracking.

    But true, the average user won't know this, and likely doesn't even know about the change. I only found out due to that article on Giz. Otherwise I may have had skewed results and not even known it.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Phone Diva View Post
    If you're signed out, "web history" shows up on the search results page, and you can click on it to disable or enable tracking.

    But true, the average user won't know this, and likely doesn't even know about the change. I only found out due to that article on Giz. Otherwise I may have had skewed results and not even known it.
    My understanding is those who never signed up for a google account of any kind would have to delete their cookie to avoid Personalized Search Results?
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    Turning off personalization : Personalized Search - Accounts Help


    They use "customization", I use "tracking", which is what they've been doing for a LONG time anyway in one form or another. Another reason why I don't put all my faith in Google.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Phone Diva View Post
    Turning off personalization : Personalized Search - Accounts Help


    They use "customization", I use "tracking", which is what they've been doing for a LONG time anyway in one form or another. Another reason why I don't put all my faith in Google.
    Yup! Freaking GORG! Think I'll use Bing for a while.
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    For most searches everyone should use Ixquick search engine anyways. It's the only large search engine that does not record or keep track of anything from you. They don't even keep your IP address.
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    One more reason to drop them, as if we needed any more. After their CEO expressed his completely naive vision of privacy, I don't know why anyone would have faith in them, at least on that front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by groovy View Post
    One more reason to drop them, as if we needed any more. After their CEO expressed his completely naive vision of privacy, I don't know why anyone would have faith in them, at least on that front.
    +1
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    Personalized Search for everyone

    Up until now, you had to be signed in to a Google service for Personalized Search results to be served up, NOW everyone will be served Personalized Results based on your past clicks.

    One problem with this is it creates tunnel vision when you search. The innerwebs are great because you can see different sites/ideas you where unaware of before.

    A second issue with this is new quality websites will have a much harder time getting traction.

    Nope! I just don't like it. What are your thoughts about the GORG?
    I agree totally. They're acting very Microsoftish. It's surpising.
    The Law of Logical Argument: Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micael View Post
    I agree totally. They're acting very Microsoftish. It's surpising.
    Cool....new word. Microsoftish. Another could be Microselfish.
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    Ironically. Mozilla director of community development Asa Dotzler is directing Firefox users to install and add on which adds Bing to the available list of search engines in the browser.

    Mozilla man sends Firefoxers to Microsoft Bing

    Schmidt privacy rant sparks Google snub

    By Cade Metz in San Francisco

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    Mozilla director of community development Asa Dotzler - co-founder of the original Firefox project - has encouraged Firefox users to switch their search engine from Google to Microsoft Bing in the wake of Eric Schmidt's now infamous words (Google chief: Only miscreants worry about net privacy • The Register) on net privacy.

    In an interview aired by CNBC on Sunday, the Google boss insisted that anyone who worries about Mountain View retaining personal data must be guilty of improper behavior. "If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place," he said.

    "If you really need that kind of privacy, the reality is that search engines - including Google - do retain this information for some time and it's important, for example, that we are all subject in the United States to the Patriot Act and it is possible that all that information could be made available to the authorities."

    In a post to his personal blog (Asa Dotzler: Firefox and more: if you have nothing to hide...) Thursday morning, ten-year Mozilla vet Asa Dotzler quoted Schmidt in full before indicating that he's not too happy with the Googler's haughty take on data retention.

    "That was Eric Schmidt, the CEO of Google, telling you exactly what he thinks about your privacy," Dotzler says, after quoting the Google boss. "There is no ambiguity, no 'out of context' here."

    Then he pointed Firefox users to an add-on that inserts Bing into the browser's built-in list of search engines.

    "Here's how you can easily switch Firefox's search from Google to Bing (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10434). (Yes, Bing (Bing Privacy Supplement) does have a better privacy policy than Google (http://www.google.com/privacypolicy.html))," Dotzler said. The links are his.

    Dotzler was part of the tiny Mozilla team that founded (Firefox at 5: the Google Cold War • The Register) the Firefox project back in 2002. The project was originally known as Phoenix, a standalone open source browser that would rise from the ashes of Netscape. It was specifically designed to battle back against the Microsoft borg, which had commandeered 95 per cent of the browser market through, shall we say, less-than-fair methods.

    Speaking before the fifth anniversary of the browser's official debut, Dotzler showed signs of Mozilla's usual contempt for Redmond. But following Google's shock entry into the browser market in the fall of 2008, Mozilla has exhibited a certain chilliness towards Google as well, and Dotzler wasn't shy about it.

    "Google is essentially an advertising company. That's where they make their money. They provide a wonderful service - primarily their search service - but it serves their advertising goals. It serves their revenue goals. The more they can know about their users, the more effective they believe they can advertise, the more money they believe they can make. That is most fundamental."

    He even indicted that Mozilla would work to boost traffic to alternative search engines via Firefox.

    But today's blog post is still a tad unexpected. It's not just that Microsoft is traditionally Mozilla's mortal enemy. According to the open source outfit's latest financial statements, Google supplies 91 per cent (Firefox millions - now only 9 per cent Google free • The Register) of Mozilla's revenues.

    Since 2004, an agreement between the two organizations gives Mozilla a portion of all Google search cash generated by Firefox traffic. In the US and Western Europe, you'll notice that Google is the default home - the default search bar in the top right hand corner of the browser.

    Last month, Dotzler seemed confident that the financial relationship between the two won't change anytime soon. "We need the revenue," he told us, "and they need the traffic." And he made a point of saying that when it comes to questionable web behavior, Google is no Microsoft.

    That was meant as Google praise. But it would appear that as of today, those words could be read quite differently. As Firefox celebrated its fifth birthday, we spoke of a Cold War between Mozilla and Google. But now we wonder if the chilliness has escalated to something else entirely

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