View Poll Results: I watch one of the following the most:

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  • FNC

    46 48.94%
  • CNN

    11 11.70%
  • MSNBC

    15 15.96%
  • CNBC

    2 2.13%
  • HLN

    2 2.13%
  • None of the above. Watch ABC,NBC,CBS or no news

    18 19.15%
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  1.    #1  
    Why is Fox News Chan. the number one cable news station? There are days where it has more viewers than all other major cable news combined for the whole day. Here is just one day from Nielsen TV Ratings Data: ©2009 The Nielsen Company. But it is like almost any day. I know this post is long but if I did not put even one day up to show the numbers everyones post would be all over the place. So here we go...this should be fun...lol

    Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for October 2, 2009

    P2+ Total Day
    FNC – 1,389,000 viewers
    CNN – 545,000 viewers
    MSNBC –359,000 viewers
    CNBC – 181,000 viewers
    HLN – 301,000 viewers

    P2+ Prime Time
    FNC – 2,473,000viewers
    CNN— 909,000 viewers
    MSNBC –675,000 viewers
    CNBC – 126,000 viewers
    HLN – 531,000 viewers

    25-54 Total Day
    FNC –326,000 viewers
    CNN –161,000 viewers
    MSNBC –135,000 viewers
    CNBC – 69,000 viewers
    HLN- 139,000 viewers

    25-54 Prime Time
    FNC – 534,000 viewers
    CNN – 232,000 viewers
    MSNBC –230,000 viewers
    CNBC – a scratch w/53,000 viewers
    HLN – 174,000 viewers

    35-64 Total Day
    FNC – 619,000 viewers
    CNN – 241,000 viewers
    MSNBC – 193,000 viewers
    CNBC – 100,000 viewers
    HLN – 169,000 viewers

    35-64 Prime Time
    FNC –1,010,000 viewers
    CNN – 364,000 viewers
    MSNBC –339,000 viewers
    CNBC –74,000 viewers
    HLN –258,000 viewers

    Morning programs (6:00AM-9:00AM) P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
    FOX & Friends- 1,002,000 viewers (311,000) (582,000)
    American Morning- 345,000 viewers (141,000) (179,000)
    Morning Joe- 312,000 viewers (119,000) (166,000)
    Squawk Box- 172,000 viewers (64,000) (101,000)
    Morning Express w/ Meade- 281,000 viewers (214,000) (211,000)

    5PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
    Glenn Beck – 2,598,000 viewers (689,000) (1,121,000)
    Situation Room—663,000 viewers (145,000) (235,000)
    Hardball w/ Chris Matthews—506,000 viewers (114,000) (239,000)
    Fast Money—173,000 viewers (82,000) (105,000)
    Prime News–212,000 viewers (86,000) (99,000)

    6PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
    Special Report with Bret Baier– 2,312,000 viewers (523,000) (1,023,000)
    Situation Room—532,000 viewers (76,000) (160,000)
    Ed Show—533,000 viewers (131,000) (242,000)
    Mad Money —133,000 viewers (74,000) (82,000)
    Prime News — 307,000 viewers (105,000) (173,000)

    7PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
    The Fox Report w/ Shep –1,866,000viewers (455,000) (794,000)
    Lou Dobbs Tonight—734,000 viewers (172,000) (232,000)
    Hardball w/ C. Matthews—595,000 viewers (152,000) (285,000)
    Kudlow Report —137,000 viewers (68,000) (75,000)
    Issues– 311,000 viewers (92,000) (149,000)

    8PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
    The O’Reilly Factor– 2,743,000 viewers (657,000) (1,164,000)
    Campbell Brown – 758,000 viewers (175,000) (289,000)
    Countdown w/ K. Olbermann – 785,000 viewers (282,000) (388,000)
    Fast Money (8:00-8:30) – a scratch w/68,000 viewers (a scratch w/32,000) (a scratch w/39,000)
    Options Action (8:30 – 9:00pm) – a scratch w/43,000 viewers (a scratch w/18,000) (a scratch w/29,000)
    Nancy Grace – 668,000 viewers (187,000) (320,000)

    9 PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
    Hannity –2,583,000 viewers (491,000) (1,009,000)
    Larry King Live —1,151,000 viewers (295,000) (470,000)
    Rachel Maddow Show —751,000 viewers (227,000) (368,000)
    The Suze Orman Show – 134,000 viewers (a scratch w/42,000) (66,000)
    Joy Behar- 565,000 viewers (169,000) (279,000)

    10 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
    On The Record w/ Greta Van Susteren —2,083,000 viewers (444,000) (849,000)
    Anderson Cooper 360 —819,000 viewers (226,000) (335,000)
    Headliners & Legends – 488,000 viewers (181,000) (261,000)
    American Greed – 188,000 viewers (91,000) (123,000)
    Nancy Grace –400,000 viewers (177,000) (196,000)

    11 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
    The O’Reilly Factor —1,383,000 viewers (318,000) (642,000)
    Anderson Cooper 360 —560,000 viewers (261,000) (349,000)
    Headliners & Legends —392,000 viewers (155,000) (229,000)
    Mad Money – a scratch w/75,000 viewers (a scratch w/31,000) (54,000)
    Showbiz Tonight– 494,000 viewers (233,000) (262,000)
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    It will be interesting to see where the PreCentral Members are in the poll.
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    My best guess is that there are a lot of stupid people in this country... many of them live in the middle.
    Last edited by DrHeathenScum; 10/08/2009 at 07:24 PM.
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    There are a few things that I think are pertinent to this discussion.

    Young people tend to not watch much TV if at all and get their news from blogs and news aggregation sites, which means the majority of TV viewers are older people. Older people tend to be more conservative and less tech savvy, leading to higher TV numbers.

    Fox News is the only conservative news station so conservatives watch Fox exclusively. The rest of the country breaks into groups and watches one of the other channels such as CNN or MSNBC or doesn't watch TV at all and read blogs instead. Fox claims its entire viewerbase each night while the rest of the networks split the rest of the viewerbase among themselves, thus having lower numbers. If you were to add the other stations numbers together then it wouldn't be so easy to Fox to claim the highest influence.

    The standard way of looking at ratings tends to give Fox News an inflated influence. If it were possible to measure content as a whole (TV, newspapers, radio, blogs, social media) then it would give a much more meaningful statistic on the balance of political viewership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHeathenScum View Post
    My best guess is that there are a lot of stupid people in this country... many of them live in the middle.
    Let me see If I get this.
    There are a lot of stupid people in the middle of the country? I rewrite it this way since you seem to be making a point of "stupid people" and say nothing of them in reference to the outer states or smart people.

    From that I conclude that you are saying that the people in the middle of the country tends to be more conservative and smart liberal people live in the outer states. So we all know that welfare states tend to be in the outer states and the smart people that work to support this system through taxation may in time become stupid and thus conservative and move to the middle of the country.
    Did I get that right?
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    I would say that most people with a fair level of intelligence and the ability to think independently do not watch Fox News. From what I have read in the past, there are substantially higher concentrations of Fox News viewers in the "middle states".

    And Nancy Grace is the devil.
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    People with common sense choose to watch the network that gives real news and balanced commentary rather than filtered and in the tank for Obama propaganda media. I don't know why the so called smart people just don't get it. I think they're too smart to think.
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    I think its because people either watch FNC or they are against FNC. Then, the not for FNC gets split between all other networks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesCarnley View Post
    There are a few things that I think are pertinent to this discussion.

    Young people tend to not watch much TV if at all and get their news from blogs and news aggregation sites, which means the majority of TV viewers are older people. Older people tend to be more conservative and less tech savvy, leading to higher TV numbers.

    Fox News is the only conservative news station so conservatives watch Fox exclusively. The rest of the country breaks into groups and watches one of the other channels such as CNN or MSNBC or doesn't watch TV at all and read blogs instead. Fox claims its entire viewerbase each night while the rest of the networks split the rest of the viewerbase among themselves, thus having lower numbers. If you were to add the other stations numbers together then it wouldn't be so easy to Fox to claim the highest influence.

    The standard way of looking at ratings tends to give Fox News an inflated influence. If it were possible to measure content as a whole (TV, newspapers, radio, blogs, social media) then it would give a much more meaningful statistic on the balance of political viewership.
    I think there's a lot of truth here but also a lot of over-generalization. I don't think self-identified conservatives watch FNC exclusively, nor that "the rest" of the viewers are divided among the other channels. I think the key is that FNC gets a disproportionately high number of conservative viewers but they don't get an equally disproportionately low number of non-conservative viewers.
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    I often wonder why people denounce an entire news network because they hear opposing viewpoints from their own views on it. One credit I'll give FNC; they bring on lots of guests on most of the shows who have views on both sides. You don't see a lot of that on the other networks.

    I personally can't stand Keith Olbermann and Sean Hannity; yet I still try to watch both of them on occasion. Hearing the opposing viewpoint can do two things; help you reinforce your own thoughts, or open you to another way to look at something. Really, it's such a bore to watch a conservative interview a conservative, or a liberal interview a liberal; all that gets you is two people agreeing on something. That's the main reason I don't like Olbermann's or Hannity's show much. At least if there is opposing thought, some real tough questions and answers may happen. That's what FNC seems to do best; bring on two complete opposites and make them talk against each other...
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    An educated informed person can be both smart and stupid.
    An uneducated uninformed person can be both dumb and stupid.
    Dumb is the lack of knowledge and doing something they think is better but was not.
    Stupid is having knowledge and doing something they knew was not better.

    Personally, I believe that a person that is informed by fox but also the others is informed. But you have view both to be at a high informed (educated level).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHeathenScum View Post
    I would say that most people with a fair level of intelligence and the ability to think independently do not watch Fox News. From what I have read in the past, there are substantially higher concentrations of Fox News viewers in the "middle states".

    And Nancy Grace is the devil.
    Ok, let me tackle this one.
    You say MOST people are intelligent, think independently and do not watch FNC. MORE conservative live in middle states.

    False - Most people watch FNC. And since there are more people that live in the outer states than the middle states that would make a large group of them FNC watchers.

    So most "intelligent, independent thinkers", are by definition then dumb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by groovy View Post
    I think the key is that FNC gets a disproportionately high number of conservative viewers but they don't get an equally disproportionately low number of non-conservative viewers.
    I doubt many liberals watch Fox News as their news source. Some may watch it to see what conservatives are thinking.

    What I said above is true. Liberals have a much higher tendency to get information from a variety of sources or totally bypass cable news for the Internet. Conservatives watch Fox because it reinforces their views, which is what we all do liberal or conservative, but liberals have a much wider menu of options to choose from which splits up their viewerbase.
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    I guess I just think most people are idiots.

    I always thought FNC was a bit too biased, perhaps that has changed. Then again, I should probably stay out of this whole topic as I watch no news channels, unless, maybe, if something big is happening, then I usually go for CNN.

    The over-sensationalizing of the news media has jaded me to the point where I just don't bother watching anymore. I get my news from the internet, where I don't have to see someone like Nancy Grace and her flared nostrils gunning for ratings by how gripping of a performance she can make. I don't even bother with local news shows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesCarnley View Post
    I doubt many liberals watch Fox News as their news source. Some may watch it to see what conservatives are thinking.

    What I said above is true. Liberals have a much higher tendency to get information from a variety of sources or totally bypass cable news for the Internet. Conservatives watch Fox because it reinforces their views, which is what we all do liberal or conservative, but liberals have a much wider menu of options to choose from which splits up their viewerbase.
    Actually, 33% of regular Fox News viewers identify as Democrat and 39% identify as Republican.

    Key News Audiences Now Blend Online and Traditional Sources: Watching, Reading and Listening to the News - Pew Research Center for the People & the Press
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    Quote Originally Posted by groovy View Post
    It's not very accurate to ask people what party they identify with. Most people want to believe they are in the middle and avoid the thought that they might be one or the other. They have even been shown to lie in order to put up a facade of what they want to be seen as.

    There are polls for all kinds of things, such as this Rasmussen poll which found that 87% of Fox News viewers say they are likely to vote for John McCain. That is not a balanced opinion in any sense of the phrase.

    It's okay to watch Fox News. It allows conservatives to follow stories that are important to them in the same way that MSNBC allows liberals to follow stories that they are interested in. I don't like the fact that people try to force the idea that these outlets are somehow moderate and that anyone who disagrees with them are partisan idiots.

    I want people to be able to watch whatever they want as long as it doesn't cause major problems. I want people to be educated and aware of issues. What I don't want is mindless negativity that attacks anything on the other side no matter what it is because it is "immoral" or "evil". Brainwashing yourself that everyone on the other side are not good people and are out to get you is extremely bad for our political discourse. It adds nothing of value and only creates an air that everyone is an enemy and their ideas pose a danger to you and your family.

    If you feel you are faced with a dangerous enemy that threatens you personally there is very little chance that you will be willing to listen to them or consider their ideas seriously. This is what is happening today. This is not a good thing.
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    Just realize that many of the shows are not "News", they are entertainment. Traditional news attempted to be neutral and report facts, without editorializing. However, almost half of FNC's schedule are shows, not news reporting. O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck, ect. are not news and should never be taken as anything more then opinion shows.

    You can agree or disagree with the lean of the networks, but the level of division is starting to become extreme. I can only hope the majority of people in American don't tilt as far right or left as the news networks portray themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHeathenScum View Post
    My best guess is that there are a lot of stupid people in this country... many of them live in the middle.
    Spoken like a true liberal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHeathenScum View Post
    My best guess is that there are a lot of stupid people in this country... many of them live in the middle.
    Wrong. The south on the coast and it's full of stupid people.

    interesting though. If Fox is the conservative channel and the others are not. And if you add the numbers, conservative channels against the nonconservative ones, the majority of people in many cases are not watching Fox. Not to mention the country is getting younger, less white, and more concentrated in urban areas. It doesn't bode well for the concervative political party.
    Last edited by blackmagic01; 10/09/2009 at 02:40 AM.
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    I just realized something... these ratings mean nothing because only stupid people watch cable news channel shows.
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