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  1. #21  
    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    There you go throwing the race card out there....shame on you
    Saying "If he walked on water you would say it's because he can't swim" is throwing out the race card is really REALLY a stretch to say the least. Seriously how is that comment even remotely race related? I believe he was trying to point out that no matter how well Obama does there will always be people who will say he didn't perform well enough. No matter who is President there will always be citizens that don't agree with that persons political view or policies. It's not matter of race its a matter of differing political ideologies. Nice try though....
  2.    #22  
    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    I believe if you look at all the economic indicators it appears the downward movement of the economy has been halted and although we're not skyrocketing upward, it appears we are in a position to rebound.

    This is true and we can only look forward to the assumed rebound.

    Quote Originally Posted by powerbyte View Post
    and I thought people complaining about how their Pre didnt't revolutionize the world after 4 months was bad!

    it's been 8 1/2 months.....give me a break...let's talk next year at this time and we'll see where we are.
    As far as Obama it has been 8.5 mos (there about) but as you read in my first post and to exspand upon, he is the lead man and in the case of this President, the public relations figure. He is only one person. There is the House and Senate. They write and vote on the bills. The President may make a written presentation but it is the congress that changes our lives. And as such the majority of the members have had YEARS watching all this come about. Before this heavy democrat Washington it was about even Dem. & Rep. in both the House and Senate. It is both parties. Obama has just not shown the "stern, strong, must have, I don't care what you say" leadership to congress to get things turned around.

    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    Yes, thank God for Obama as without him we would likely be at 50% unemployment with no sign of future jobs in sight. All those temporary jobs, and the car purchases (which, by the way, now will effect the future car purchases) really are making a statement! Good grief.
    Adding to your point of the future car purchases - We saw a similar situation about 4-6 years ago when the Auto companies pushed 0% rates and huge rebates. The cars sales went through the roof. People that would have made a purchase in the years to come did not wait. Result - the following few years, vehicle sales took a nose dive. Few had a need for a new car.

    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    Yup! If he walked on water you would say it's because he can't swim.

    I'd make a more broad statement and say if all of Washington walked on water, they could not swim. Yet, as of late they can't even walk. Seems more like a backroom bar brawl.


    Quote Originally Posted by slingbox View Post
    Barack Hussein Obama Mmm, mmm, mm!
    I hate that song. So over played. But, you put it in at the right time.
  3. #23  
    well... I just did my own poll. 4 people, 3 said they likey like. 1 said "well i'll be damned" so 75% approval rating to me.

    so get on your horse and gallup that poll.

    polls suck.
  4. #24  
    Quote Originally Posted by slingbox View Post
    Pretty intense number your throwing out there seeing how low his approval numbers currently are.

    Well, it's a pretty intense group. I refer to them affectionately as the Obstructionists because they don't care if things get better for the average American as long as they can prevent the current administration from accomplishing anything.

    And those numbers are higher than Reagan's average.

  5.    #25  
    No mater who the administration is I just wish everyone would do there dam job at least 70% of the time and not ever hear a representative say "I don't care what my constituents think or say, I am going to vote the way I want".
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    Well, it's a pretty intense group. I refer to them affectionately as the Obstructionists because they don't care if things get better for the average American as long as they can prevent the current administration from accomplishing anything.

    And those numbers are higher than Reagan's average.

    You do know that 52 - 56 % don't support his health care plans which makes your 25% not reality.
    We then have drive by media with many dems pushing it to be race related.
    Im thinking the racism factor 2 - 6% based on overall approval numbers presented which means race card is being played by those you support
    Last edited by slingbox; 10/02/2009 at 03:12 PM.
  7. #27  
    Quote Originally Posted by slingbox View Post
    You do know that 52 - 56 % don't support his health care plans which makes your 25% not reality.
    We then have drive by media with many dems pushing it to be race related.
    Im thinking 2 - 6% based on overall approval numbers presented
    There is no Obama health care plan. Congress is working on health care plans. So when you quote some percentage do not support Obama's health care plan, you've actually said nothing.
  8. #28  
    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    You're kidding right?

    One thing I have noticed is nearly all of your posts include some kind of negative comment on the Obama administration. Even where it's a bit forced. Is this a strategy or just a habit you've gotten into?
    Just "nearly all"?....I've got to work on that to get it up to "all". I guess it can't be at 100% disapproval on my part because once in a blue moon he screws up and does something right (don't request examples, not as easy as it sounds).

    I'll have to go back through your posts and count the positive comments on the Bush Administration so I can study your "strategy"....or was it just a habit you got into as well? LOL

    Barack Hussein Obama Mmm, mmm, mm!
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    There is no Obama health care plan. Congress is working on health care plans. So when you quote some percentage do not support Obama's health care plan, you've actually said nothing.
    That's part of the problem....he isn't a leader....he throws out all this "stuff" and then when it gets criticized he says he doesn't have a plan. Why doesn't Obama Almighty put together a plan....take it to both democraticly controlled houses....and have them vote it through? Bingo Bango. Easy. Could it be that some democrats are uncomfortable with it? Are they racists or do they realize it is full of problems? I've seen the committee meetings and the democrats are not working with the Republicans, so just ram the darn thing through and then we can get to 2010 and begin the process of getting the democrats out. Obama is just a weak leader.
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  10. #30  
    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    There is no Obama health care plan.
    Congress is working on health care plans.
    So when you quote some percentage do not support Obama's health care plan, you've actually said nothing.
    Very confusing foot in the mouth post you presented.
    Your 25% Motivated by racism and my 52% disaprove of health care really means nothing....
    and you also disagree with your own signature.
    Talk about a waste of time
    Last edited by slingbox; 10/02/2009 at 04:01 PM.
  11. #31  
    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    I guess it can't be at 100% disapproval on my part because once in a blue moon he screws up and does something right (don't request examples, not as easy as it sounds).


    Holy mackerel!!! Don't let the Obstructionists hear you!



    I gotta ask, what do you feel has been done right?
  12. #32  
    Quote Originally Posted by slingbox View Post
    Very confusing foot in the mouth post you presented.
    You feel my % # means nothing & you disagree with your signature.
    My point still stands.
  13.    #33  
    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    That's part of the problem....he isn't a leader.... Obama is just a weak leader.
    Good thing he acted on the favor that was called in for Chicago 2016. After all, "it's" (was) "for the children".
    Someone please tell me where do these leaders of late get this stuff? And I don't mean just the Obama's. Can't someone just pull the window tint off the bus and just drive?
  14. #34  
    Race is definitely a major factor in this administration...you saw that when the election happened. The first words out of every mouth seen on TV WAS NOT:

    1) Democrat in office
    2) Help for the economy, or help with US jobs

    BUT IT WAS:

    1) First African American President
    2) WE HAVE OVERCOME.....(overcome WHAT?!?!)

    to me this whole adminstration is a race thing. policies flying out like candy on halloween. You realize we need a depression to rebuild just like before, and that we are going to have to dig ourselves out of this money mess we are now in cause of all the bailout crap. Im broke, you dont see me getting help...WHY?!? because supposedly Im just above the lower income level (barely). BAH!
    So now we are in deep **** debt which our children will pay for, AND all other countries are getting ****ed off for lending us the cash that we borrowed and then made more like monopoly money.

    Anyways...I gotta stop this is just too annoying....gets any worse I might have to move to Mexico for a bit, this type of degradation of Capitalism towards Socialism is irritating...Government runs everything is really working for other countries well right...uh no...but lets join them anyways!
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    I say fire them all and let Cheney sort them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJeremyC View Post
    Race is definitely a major factor in this administration...you saw that when the election happened. The first words out of every mouth seen on TV WAS NOT:

    1) Democrat in office
    2) Help for the economy, or help with US jobs

    BUT IT WAS:

    1) First African American President
    2) WE HAVE OVERCOME.....(overcome WHAT?!?!)

    to me this whole adminstration is a race thing. policies flying out like candy on halloween. You realize we need a depression to rebuild just like before, and that we are going to have to dig ourselves out of this money mess we are now in cause of all the bailout crap. Im broke, you dont see me getting help...WHY?!? because supposedly Im just above the lower income level (barely). BAH!
    So now we are in deep **** debt which our children will pay for, AND all other countries are getting ****ed off for lending us the cash that we borrowed and then made more like monopoly money.

    Anyways...I gotta stop this is just too annoying....gets any worse I might have to move to Mexico for a bit, this type of degradation of Capitalism towards Socialism is irritating...Government runs everything is really working for other countries well right...uh no...but lets join them anyways!
    Well thought out defensive post.
  17. #37  
    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    My point still stands.
    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    There is no Obama health care plan.
    Congress is working on health care plans.
    So when you quote some percentage do not support Obama's health care plan, you've actually said nothing.
    Sorry had the Double post thing going due to very sad router performance so I will try this again..

    Very confusing foot in the mouth post you presented.
    Your 25% Motivated by racism and my 52% disaprove of health care really means nothing....
    and you also disagree with your own signature.
    Talk about a waste of time
    Last edited by slingbox; 10/02/2009 at 04:09 PM.
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    #38  
    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post


    Holy mackerel!!! Don't let the Obstructionists hear you!

    You know, at first I was annoyed by the "Obstructionist" label but now I'm starting to embrace it. I mean, obstructing a bad thing is not bad. Kind of like "abolishing" a bad thing is not bad.
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    A little off topic here,
    Can anyone recommend a good wireless router?...daThomas maybe.
  20. #40  
    Quote Originally Posted by slingbox View Post
    Sorry had the Double post thing going due to very sad router performance so I will try this again..

    Very confusing foot in the mouth post you presented.
    Your 25% Motivated by racism and my 52% disaprove of health care really means nothing....
    and you also disagree with your own signature.
    Talk about a waste of time
    I never referred to 25% as motivated by racism.

    In what way am I disagreeing with grass roots organization to improve health care?
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