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  1. #821  
    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    Looks like Cao found some backbone.

    Under the soon to be old system, how would his employees get coverage if not through their employer?
    Do you have a mohawk hair cut and a ring in your nose? Just curious, how old are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    w00t!



    Classic how the main parts don't kick in until 2013....ROFL....umm, I guess they are afraid once the public gets a taste of socialism they would vote the bums out. I don't see that as having balls....I see that as trying to sneak something by everyone. It's a sad day for people who truly love America. But for folks who love Europe, what a great day, huh?
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  3. #823  
    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    Do you have a mohawk hair cut and a ring in your nose? Just curious, how old are you?
    That's a receding hairline and yes.

    Relevance?
  4. #824  
    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    Looks like Cao found some backbone.

    Under the soon to be old system, how would his employees get coverage if not through their employer?
    Ummm....individual coverage? Not everyone gets denied when they apply for individual coverage.
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    #825  
    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    Looks like Cao found some backbone.
    It doesn't take any backbone to wait until the ayes have it and then vote aye.

    Under the soon to be old system, how would his employees get coverage if not through their employer?
    They wouldn't. That's the point. People who start businesses, and those who join them, take calculated risks that their health won't fail them in the short term so they choose to go without coverage. I know you know that there are a whole lot of twenty-somethings who don't have insurance because they're just trying to establish themselves. And a lot of them go into small start ups because they can take the risk.

    Under the possibly new system, not only will they have to account for any cut in pay to either start a business or to join a start up business, but they will have to factor in having to pay for insurance. OR, they could stay at the big evil corporation who steels their will to live in exchange for paltry health care benefits.
  6. #826  
    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    That's a receding hairline and yes.

    Relevance?
    No real relevance other than just wondering if maybe time to act your age? If you're 19 then I guess that is pretty "cool", but, you look to be maybe middle 40s?...maybe early 50s? Maybe time to hang up the nose ring?
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  7. #827  
    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    No real relevance other than just wondering if maybe time to act your age? If you're 19 then I guess that is pretty "cool", but, you look to be maybe middle 40s?...maybe early 50s? Maybe time to hang up the nose ring?
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  8. #828  
    Quote Originally Posted by palandri View Post
    Have you ever thought about taking a class in diversity?
    No
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  9. #829  
    The biggest problem with the bill is it contains a controversial amendment to restrict coverage of abortion. That's a woman's right to choose. That's pretty bad that it was added.
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  10. #830  
    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    ...you look to be maybe middle 40s?...maybe early 50s?
    Ouch! You know how to hurt a guy!


    Quote Originally Posted by clemgrad85 View Post
    Maybe time to hang up the nose ring?
    I wear it when appropriate but thanks for your input.
  11. #831  
    Quote Originally Posted by palandri View Post
    The biggest problem with the bill is it contains a controversial amendment to restrict coverage of abortion. That's a woman's right to choose. That's pretty bad that it was added.
    I'm pretty sure they will yank it out later. It's one thing to say you can't use federally obtained insurance for an abortion but to say if you're on federally obtained insurance you can't obtain a private policy for an abortion won't fly.
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    #832  
    Quote Originally Posted by jewel View Post
    These are all good but the problem is this president and this Democrat run congress don't want to listen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by groovy View Post
    They wouldn't. That's the point. People who start businesses, and those who join them, take calculated risks that their health won't fail them in the short term so they choose to go without coverage. I know you know that there are a whole lot of twenty-somethings who don't have insurance because they're just trying to establish themselves. And a lot of them go into small start ups because they can take the risk.

    Under the possibly new system, not only will they have to account for any cut in pay to either start a business or to join a start up business, but they will have to factor in having to pay for insurance. OR, they could stay at the big evil corporation who steels their will to live in exchange for paltry health care benefits.
    And this is EXACTLY why it has to be required. Healthy 20 somethings don't get coverage because they think they're healthy and nothing will happen to them. Then they end up with something nasty or get hit by a bus and they're costs are passed onto the insured.
  14. #834  
    Quote Originally Posted by palandri View Post
    Have you ever thought about taking a class in diversity?
    This board is his class in diversity.
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    #835  
    Quote Originally Posted by palandri View Post
    The biggest problem with the bill is it contains a controversial amendment to restrict coverage of abortion. That's a woman's right to choose. That's pretty bad that it was added.
    Nobody's right to abortion is being taken from them.
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    #836  
    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    And this is EXACTLY why it has to be required. Healthy 20 somethings don't get coverage because they think they're healthy and nothing will happen to them. Then they end up with something nasty or get hit by a bus and they're costs are passed onto the insured.
    That might be true IF there were enough healthy-uninsured emergencies to drive up the total cost. But there aren't. You know how I know? Because that's how insurance companies make money. There are consistently more healthy people who pay into the system than there are sick people who withdraw from the system. If that wasn't the case, insurance companies would never survive.

    Now, there is a large population of unhealthy and uninsured that do drive up the costs for everyone. But under the possibly new system, they'll still be uninsured. Any guesses?
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  17. #837  
    Quote Originally Posted by palandri View Post
    The biggest problem with the bill is it contains a controversial amendment to restrict coverage of abortion. That's a woman's right to choose. That's pretty bad that it was added.
    Why is that bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle View Post
    Why is that bad?
    If you are Pro-Life it's a good thing.
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  19. #839  
    Can't she pay to have it done?
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    Quote Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle View Post
    Can't she pay to have it done?
    Here we go again back to square one.
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