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    Up late tonight so I thought I would scan the news channels. I scan through cable and local news shows just to see whats up with the Tea Party today. I came across this MSNBC Keith Olbermann guy ranting for half an hour over Fox news and its personalities. Is he obsessed with FoxNews or what.! All I want to hear is plain news, some interesting facts and stats.
    I guess NPR radio is the only way to go.

    Does anyone else notice this?

    Do you enjoy the school yard comments of Olbermann?

    Is this what you want for your news and information?
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    The reality is that Keith's program (like Rachel Maddow's and the rest of the MSNBC evening lineup) is less of a straight news program and more of a liberal advocacy program. It's analogous to O'Reilly's conservative advocacy 'news' program.

    That being said, I sometimes enjoy listening to Keith, and especially Rachel. I find them entertaining. When I'm in the mood for a more general evening news, I go to CNN.
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    I regularly watch his highly entertaining show while playing xbox live online (I only play while watching the news)

    I saw that particular Oberman piece. I saved it and will try to youtube it later for those who might have missed it (it runs maybe 12 minutes I'd guess.)

    What you'd regard as being unfair to the inherently unfair and artificial faux, was in fact a documentation of their advocacy for and illegitimate parentage <<edited by berd>>

    Never before have I ever seen a broadcast network use their "news" channel for pure political advocacy -- particularly advocacy for a cause in which their billionaire "citizen" owner has a specific and monstrous self interest.

    Outrageous.
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    as promised, I've youtubed this (this is part 2)

    Part 1 includes a discussion of it -- and I've posted that as well.

    That and many other interesting news videos can be seen here:


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    Nonsense? Not at all. It is about government's uncontrolled growth. It is about the federal government taking powers upon itself that in the Constitution are defined as state or local issues. We are sure you are aware that the federal government's powers are defined in the Constitution So really, your view is the one that is out of line.

    You speak of networks using their power for purely political...bubba, you are just coughing up the trash now. What do call what CNBC, CBS, CNN and NBC routinely do now and what they did during the election? You are really confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bclinger View Post
    Nonsense? Not at all. It is about government's uncontrolled growth. It is about the federal government taking powers upon itself that in the Constitution are defined as state or local issues. We are sure you are aware that the federal government's powers are defined in the Constitution So really, your view is the one that is out of line.

    You speak of networks using their power for purely political...bubba, you are just coughing up the trash now. What do call what CNBC, CBS, CNN and NBC routinely do now and what they did during the election? You are really confused.

    please Ben -- be patient with the aging formerly imperial self -- after more than 2 centuries, BARYE could be forgiven for a certain level of confusion. I'm relying on you to point me to the light.

    I am, I must confess though, confused at hearing of your new found trust and affection for the constitution, civil rights, and liberties -- are you soon to be a dues paying member of the ACLU ??

    My confusion is maybe a symptom BARYE's delusional dementia -- but I keep having these flashbacks that tell me you supported junior's hijacking of the constitution, his seizing of power and suppressing of information and squelching dissent against his policies.

    And it may be that this confusion has a tinge of schizonphrenia, but I keep having this vague recollection that when junior spent more than all previous presidents (combined ??), and took the nation from surplus to hellacious deficits, and turned the treasury's firehose in the direction of giant corporations and his rich friends, you were not then similarly troubled.

    Please help Ben -- do you know how I can get access to Rush's drug dealer so that I can get the drugs I need to make me clear thinking again ??
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    You are correct to a degree B fox leans to one side and MsNBC falls the other way. That is not the or my issue. My point is that MsNBC nightly will have at least 3 pieces on either Bush Fox or both.
    As far as the Tie Party issue I find it hard for anyone to support such an outlay of finances push through overnight without anyone reading the finer points save for a few staffer looking for spelling errors.

    This is the root of the Tie Party.
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    All the network news channels are obsessed with Fox News. They are trying to figure out why Fox has nearly twice the ratings of their closest competitor and why 9 of the top 10 rated cable shows are on Fox News. O'Reilly re-runs pull more ratings than anything on CNN or MSNBC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bclinger View Post
    Nonsense? Not at all. It is about government's uncontrolled growth. It is about the federal government taking powers upon itself that in the Constitution are defined as state or local issues.
    I actually don't disagree with this; however, both parties are very guilty here. For example, the largest intrusion in the public education system, No Child Left Behind, was instituted under the Bush administration. Strictly speaking, one would argue that there is no constitutional right to an education.

    We are sure you are aware that the federal government's powers are defined in the Constitution So really, your view is the one that is out of line.
    Free advice: you'd get much farther by saying "I disagree" than "your view is out of line".


    As far as the Tie Party issue I find it hard for anyone to support such an outlay of finances push through overnight without anyone reading the finer points save for a few staffer looking for spelling errors.
    While I truly understand the concern about a large spending package, the reality is that, if everyone (including business and citizens) stop spending, there is less demand for goods and services, more layoffs, worse economy...etc. It becomes a feedback loop. The only response is to stimulate spending - economists are not all that divided on the issue. It's what ended the Depression and it's considered "best practice" in situations like this. Frustrating but true.
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    Yes, both parties are guilty. Bush with his spending and Obama with his accelerated spending. You mention the Patriot Act - we are at war and there are people like myself who do not have a problem with the demise of terrorists. From my reading I was not able to find very many people directly affected by the Patriot Act in this country.

    The Obama thing of excessive spending is one that requires it to be paid back - that is the problem. Cut taxes, make it easier for businesses to business instead of making it easier to tax them out of existence. The government does not do long-term employment, private enterprise does.

    And yes, Fox News is it, NBC is not. And Fox does have its share of liberal talkers, though they are not under the "news" name as is commonly found with NBC, CBS, ABC - those represent opinion as fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g.711 View Post
    You are correct to a degree B fox leans to one side and MsNBC falls the other way. That is not the or my issue. My point is that MsNBC nightly will have at least 3 pieces on either Bush Fox or both.
    As far as the Tie Party issue I find it hard for anyone to support such an outlay of finances push through overnight without anyone reading the finer points save for a few staffer looking for spelling errors.

    This is the root of the Tie Party.

    where though, was this outrage when junior and his cronies were literally fertilzing the sands of iraq with our billions of dollars, with their misbegotten war and "projects" developed and overseen by a litany of RNC vetted, young conservatives.

    Billions borrowed from the Chinese, but kept hidden off budget because that whole monstrosity was part of an "emergency" apropriation.

    Where was the outrage, the Teabag protests as junior and Carlson gave away the 1st trillion or so last September without ANY strings or controls

    Where was this outrage when junior defanged the SEC and unleashed the naked uncontrolable greed that brought about this worldwide economic depression ??

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    I believe the democrats were right there pushing them on. Bunches of us were against the initial bailout. Thing is conservatives do not make as much noise as liberals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BARYE View Post
    where though, was this outrage when junior and his cronies were literally fertilzing the sands of iraq with our billions of dollars, with their misbegotten war and "projects" developed and overseen by a litany of RNC vetted, young conservatives.

    Billions borrowed from the Chinese, but kept hidden off budget because that whole monstrosity was part of an "emergency" apropriation.

    Where was the outrage, the Teabag protests as junior and Carlson gave away the 1st trillion or so last September without ANY strings or controls

    Where was this outrage when junior defanged the SEC and unleashed the naked uncontrolable greed that brought about this worldwide economic depression ??
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    What you find on the right is exactly the same tendencies as that which is found on the left.

    Trying to paint one side as in some way better than the other is completely foolish.

    What are liberals as their president stokes the fire for hyperinflation, dollar devaluation and bloated government?

    Quiescent furbies....

    Barye, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bclinger View Post
    Yes, both parties are guilty. Bush with his spending and Obama with his accelerated spending. You mention the Patriot Act - we are at war and there are people like myself who do not have a problem with the demise of terrorists. From my reading I was not able to find very many people directly affected by the Patriot Act in this country.
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    Did you support the Patriot act Ben when it investigated lefties, when it looked at non-violent anti-war protesters ??

    Rush, Michelle Malkin and their ilk are in an uproar that homeland security is taking note of the rising right, and their violent threat -- and their murderous history.

    The right has a track record of buying big guns and using big bombs -- and having no hesitation to murder in pursuit of their twisted agendas. Whether that be Oklahoma City, or family planning/abortion clinics.

    The american left has no history of commiting intentional mass murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by treobk214 View Post
    Liberals are no different than those programmed by left leaning talking heads, liberal leaning news programs and newspapers.

    What you find on the right is exactly the same tendencies as that which is found on the left.

    Trying to paint one side as in some way better than the other is completely foolish.

    What are liberals as their president stokes the fire for hyperinflation, dollar devaluation and bloated government?

    Quiescent furbies....

    Barye, please.

    I ask you and everyone one from the right again:

    Were you similarly incensed at how junior and his junta brought this country from surplus into a devasting depression ??

    Where were you as he brought america to a point that its now in pleading subservience to our Chinese masters -- masters who now control this country's debt and the value of its dollars ??

    Where were your voices when junior and his GOPer cronies were building bridges to nowhere in Alaska, were selling the government to insider lobbyists, and sending taxpayer financed earmarks to their friends and campaign contributors ??

    Where were your voices when all this was happening ???

    Now when some effort is being made to redress the horrors of the last 8 years, the right has suddenly found their voice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BARYE View Post

    I fear conservatives are like robots that only learn of what should outrage them when they get programmed by Rush and Faux and friends -- otherwise they are like quiescent Furbies...
    No need for namecalling, please tone it down..
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