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  1. #41  
    The temperament has no excuse, that I have said a few times. The birth certificate issue - an interesting one. Some claim he was born in Hawaii, some in Kenya. One of his grandmothers states Kenya. Who knows. Regardless, if he was born in Kenya, that is an issue, if in Hawaii, no issue. To settle the argument though, the birth certificate from Hawaii and the one from Kenya need to be produced. There is also question about an amended birth certificate...
  2. #42  
    Quote Originally Posted by bclinger View Post
    The temperament has no excuse, that I have said a few times. The birth certificate issue - an interesting one. Some claim he was born in Hawaii, some in Kenya. One of his grandmothers states Kenya. Who knows. Regardless, if he was born in Kenya, that is an issue, if in Hawaii, no issue. To settle the argument though, the birth certificate from Hawaii and the one from Kenya need to be produced. There is also question about an amended birth certificate...
    problem is he could show pictures of him being born in Hawaii... everyone would then say there were fake.

    Obama shows a birth certificate... republicans then say it is fake.

    Do you honestly believe the secret service, fbi, cia, and whoever else are somehow not doing their jobs?

    Or do you believe obama's run is based on a conspiracy?

    I don't get your point...
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  3. #43  
    Interesting...

    Pew: Obama on pace to break 50%

    Barack Obama is on track to be the first Democrat to win a majority of the vote since 1976, according to the final pre-election poll by the Pew Research Center.

    Obama leads John McCain 52 percent to 46 percent, by Pew’s measure, which projects that McCain will win undecided voters by a slight margin.

    Pew’s final pre-election poll in 2004, including its projection of the undecided vote, correctly predicted that George W. Bush would defeat John Kerry 51 to 48 percent.

    When undecided voters are excluded, Obama's lead in the Pew poll increases slightly, to 49-42.

    “McCain … is getting the boost that Republican candidates typically receive when the sample is narrowed to those most likely to vote,” Pew notes.

    The Gallup Poll’s latest three-day average also shows Obama on track for a narrow majority in the popular vote. Its expanded likely voter model has Obama ahead 52-43, while its traditional likely voter model, which considers past voting behavior, shows a similar 51-43 advantage. Gallup has yet to issue its final pre-election poll.

    Pew’s final pre-election poll this year included 2,587 likely voters interviewed on landline and cell phones and was conducted Wednesday to Saturday. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.5 percentage points.
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15186.html
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  4. #44  
    Final Presidential Estimate: Obama 55%, McCain 44%

    PRINCETON, NJ -- The final Gallup 2008 pre-election poll -- based on Oct. 31-Nov. 2 Gallup Poll Daily tracking -- shows Barack Obama with a 53% to 42% advantage over John McCain among likely voters. When undecided voters are allocated proportionately to the two candidates to better approximate the actual vote, the estimate becomes 55% for Obama to 44% for McCain.

    The trend data clearly show Obama ending the campaign with an upward movement in support, with eight to 11 percentage point leads among likely voters in Gallup's last four reports of data extending back to Oct. 28. Obama's final leads among both registered voters and likely voters are the largest of the campaign.

    While only 4% of voters remain undecided in Gallup's unallocated likely voter model, the final poll estimates that a slightly larger 10% of likely voters still have the potential to either change their mind or make up their mind. Even if McCain converts the vast majority of swing voters, victory for him would be highly unlikely since 51% of likely voters say they are certain to vote for Obama compared with 39% who say they are sure they will vote for McCain.


    http://www.gallup.com/poll/111703/Fi...McCain-44.aspx
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  5.    #45  
    REMINDER !!

    the polls close soon in the very important and prestigious contest to win BARYE's money -- those of you waiting, studying the latest polling numbers to gain maximum advantage in making your predictions, have little more than six hours left to vote --

    again the stakes:

    $10 of BARYE's money (toward the purchase of an accessory on this fine site -- or to a charity of your choosing) to who most accurately predicts the final vote percentages of tomorrow's election --

    All entries must be posted (and/or edited) no later than 12:01 AM EDT

    Obama/Biden:

    McCain/Palin:

    (Barr/Nadir):
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  6. #46  
    I'll go with 58 / 40, Obama.
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  7. #47  
    Quote Originally Posted by gksmithlcw View Post
    I'll go with 58 / 40, Obama.
    You are a true believer of CHANGE!!!!

    Even I'm thinking that obama MIGHT win... but no one I know is expecting a blowout... I think people are on edge... where they should be... that makes people go out and vote.

    I'd not be surprised if mccain won....

    Obama has to pull PA and two other big states: VA, NC, GA, FL or OH in order to have a clean shot....

    I can't wait though... mccain/palin would be a disaster of epic proportions...
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  8. #48  
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    You are a true believer of CHANGE!!!!
    I'm just trying to remain optimistic... ;-)
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  9. #49  
    Quote Originally Posted by bclinger View Post
    and now another story, gosh the controversy:
    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/200...w-information/
    Story? that is an incorrect blog post referencing no story and written by an anonymous racist who refuses to even use their own name!

    One might as well say McCain was replaced by the North Vietnamese!

    These screeds go on hate and racist sites like little green footballs etc. they don't belong here.
    Last edited by aero; 11/05/2008 at 09:25 AM.
  10. #50  
    the amazing story is that obama beat the hell out of mccain tonight...

    but the second story is how the 3rd party candidates only made up 1% of the votes in all states (or have so in the reporting so far).

    No 3rd party spoilers.
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  11. #51  
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    but the second story is how the 3rd party candidates only made up 1% of the votes in all states (or have so in the reporting so far).

    No 3rd party spoilers.
    Third party and independent candidates don't really come to the fore in a vacuum. They become popular and a factor when neither party offers answers to a significant chunk of the population.
  12. #52  
    Congrats to Toby who appears to be heading toward a "guessing" victory.
  13.    #53  
    Quote Originally Posted by moderateinny View Post
    Congrats to Toby who appears to be heading toward a "guessing" victory.


    with 96% of the vote in -- BARYE is demanding an investigation into obvious chicanery and suspicious "irregularities" in the polls that were designed to deny BARYE his rightful victory --


    The latest AP results are:


    Obama/Biden: 52.4
    McCain/Palin: 46.3


    Bujin:

    Obama/Biden: 52%
    McCain/Palin: 47%


    BARYE:

    Obama/Biden: 53%
    McCain/Palin: 44%

    (Barr/Nadir 3%)


    toby:

    Obama/Biden: 51%
    McCain/Palin: 47%
    Other: 2%


    The results will not be offical until BARYE is declared the winner ...
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  14. #54  
    Quote Originally Posted by moderateinny View Post
    Congrats to Toby who appears to be heading toward a "guessing" victory.
    I think Bujin is closer (although I only guessed what I did since he had already taken those numbers). His numbers were what I originally chose and then edited when I noticed they were already posted.
    ‎"Is that suck and salvage the Kevin Costner method?" - Chris Matthews on Hardball, July 6, 2010. Wonder if he's talking about his oil device or his movie career...
  15.    #55  
    also --

    for those of you loudly rooting for BARYE to lose his last ten dollars, understand that Oregon and Washington -- two strong Obama states -- are only reporting 66% and 56% of their vote as having been counted.
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  16. #56  
    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    I think Bujin is closer (although I only guessed what I did since he had already taken those numbers). His numbers were what I originally chose and then edited when I noticed they were already posted.
    Ha! Everyone should just follow me! The Buj is always right!

    I'd like my prize in gold bars, please. Or in Mike & Ike's.
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  17.    #57  
    Quote Originally Posted by Bujin View Post
    Ha! Everyone should just follow me! The Buj is always right!

    I'd like my prize in gold bars, please. Or in Mike & Ike's.
    BARYE will be officially seeking the permanent banning of Bujin on the grounds of premature celebration and taunting --



    (what's: "or in Mike & Ike's" )
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  18. #58  
    Quote Originally Posted by Bujin View Post
    Or in Mike & Ike's.
    Not had those for years... good choice.
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  19. #59  
    Quote Originally Posted by BARYE View Post
    BARYE will be officially seeking the permanent banning of Bujin on the grounds of premature celebration and taunting --
    I might go along with that - I could use the extra time in my day that I waste here.

    (what's: "or in Mike & Ike's" )
    you've never had Mike & Ike's candy? Philistine.
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  20.    #60  
    Glum.

    That is the sentiment reported by BARYE's aides tonight...

    Sources close to the BARYE camp confidentially report that the aging, formerly Imperial Self is increasingly frail, embittered, and morose -- that he has been heard repeatedly muttering under his breath the words: "damn repugnicans ...."

    He is said to be still holding out hope that with 3 % of the vote yet to be counted, a way can still be found to arrive at the mathematically close but arithmetically distant threshold of 52.5 % -- a number which is conventionally rounded up to 53 %

    Depressed and angry -- he blames GOPers for his potential loss. He holds them responsible for the last minute leak of the story about Obama's illegal alien aunt – a story that was targeted specifically at damping down Obama's margin of victory -- story for which there is no possible explanation (with Obama already so far ahead) -- except as a device to deny BARYE his legitimate crown as the emperor of prophecy. (damn repugnicans ...)

    In any case, he continues to be hunkered down in his bunker -- resolute in the knowledge that the race remains: STILL TOO CLOSE TO CALL !!!!
    Last edited by BARYE; 11/06/2008 at 04:37 AM.
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