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    I'm interested in trying 64 bit Vista, but I keep hearing that barely anything will work on it, which is surprising because Vista was in testing for ages and programmers should have been more prepared IMO.

    Anyone have a list of commonly used programs that actually work on 64 bit Vista? Like iTunes, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, etc.?

    Also, is there any way to force 32 bit compatability for programs that won't work?

    Thanks in advance all!
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Phone Diva View Post
    I'm interested in trying 64 bit Vista, but I keep hearing that barely anything will work on it, which is surprising because Vista was in testing for ages and programmers should have been more prepared IMO.

    Anyone have a list of commonly used programs that actually work on 64 bit Vista? Like iTunes, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, etc.?

    Also, is there any way to force 32 bit compatability for programs that won't work?

    Thanks in advance all!
    Vista 64 in my experience runs everything fine. The only thing to really worry about is that it has no 16 bit emulation so old DOS programs and some (very) old Windows program won't run.

    As far as anything else I never had a problem.

    And, yes, there are compatibility modes like there are in XP. I never had to use them but they are there.

    Anyway, as long as you have drivers for all of your hardware that are Vista 64 compatible you should be fine.
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    Does Vista include enough native drivers for most hardware, or do I need to try to find a download for them somewhere? I know Creative claims Vista native drivers(both 32 and 64) work on their newer MP3 players, so that's good for me. But what about USB phone cables and stuff like that? Also many phone updates seem to refuse to go through Vista. I'm still on XP but see the "won't work on Vista" warning quite a few times.

    Thanks for the answer you gave BTW!
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
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    This is a good thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=275479

    I'm sure MS has a list of programs that won't work (even that thread has links to 64 bit sites).

    I have windows vista 64 but decided to run 32 bit even though I have 4 gb of mem in my desktop. I'd more than likely install 64 when I build a new computer and put 6 gb mem in the monster. And I know I'm not taking advantage of all 4 gb, but this computer is more than fast enough already. lol

    I've operated 64 bit and did not see a performance gain or hit either way. I recommend 32 bit because you might have little issues with 64. I use "might" since I don't know what you run... you would have to research each program/hardware that you use.

    A small list in Oct 2007 (along with a great review) is here: http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...ta_1yr_x64.asp . Keep in mind this is over a year old so much has changed... matter of fact I was reluctant to even mention it except it had a list of programs that worked then and will work now... things on the list that might not have worked then, might work now, you would have to check.

    Also, I'm sure MS has a compatibility list if you wanted to research. Outside of that, I'd look on each vendor site or email them if their site does not expressly say that a program/hardware will work with vista 64.

    Good luck....
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    This is an ignorant question, but I'm never sure about things like these.

    How do you "downgrade" to 32 bit Vista, on a pre-loaded 64-bit laptop? Or do you need to run them as seperate operating systems, choosing which one on boot-up? Is that even possible?

    BTW Theog, thanks for all the advice!
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
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    99.9% of the applications I run on Vista 64 run just fine. Oddly enough, the .1% is Palm Hotsync Manager.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blazinlow View Post
    99.9% of the applications I run on Vista 64 run just fine. Oddly enough, the .1% is Palm Hotsync Manager.
    That is where a lot of people get in trouble... they read comments like yours and figure everything for them will be fine.

    Not saying it won't... but always that chance...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Phone Diva View Post
    This is an ignorant question, but I'm never sure about things like these.

    How do you "downgrade" to 32 bit Vista, on a pre-loaded 64-bit laptop? Or do you need to run them as seperate operating systems, choosing which one on boot-up? Is that even possible?

    BTW Theog, thanks for all the advice!
    If I am not mistaken, the license for 64 is the same for the 32. In other words you can install either. (edit: this comment I really don't know... please check with Microsoft on the license terms for vista 64... but I thought 64 could go back but 32 could not go to 64. I could be very wrong!)

    Mine were business purchases, so I purchased the license for each. Plus, I have a couple of computers so I needed the licenses anyway.

    I've never tried to install 32 with a 64 license or vice versa.

    You could try to google that info... or ask the manufacuture of the computer if you can install vista 32 in place of 64.

    Maybe someone with more knowledge will ring in.... sorry....
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    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    That is where a lot of people get in trouble... they read comments like yours and figure everything for them will be fine.

    Not saying it won't... but always that chance...
    True, so I say to everybody: Do your research before committing to 64. Most of the compatibility problems are hardware related (signed drivers not available) I haven't had any problems on the software side.
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    Which types of hardware won't work? USB sync cords from phones are my main concern at this time. MP3 players seem to be covered, at least Creative.

    Also, I need to use a router, any problems with those?
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
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    I'd basically go thru all your hardware and peripherals and see if there is a driver available for it for Vista64.

    If the hardware uses built-in Windows drivers, chances are it will be the same for Vista64

    No problems with the router. Get whichever one you'd like.

    An example for me: I have a HP Photosmart 7660. No Vista drivers are available for that printer, however I was able to use other drivers for a different HP printer that worked. Check the manufacturer's website
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Phone Diva View Post
    Which types of hardware won't work? USB sync cords from phones are my main concern at this time. MP3 players seem to be covered, at least Creative.

    Also, I need to use a router, any problems with those?
    Use google and do your own research on the products you have (asking about "routers in general" won't help)... almost impossible for anyone else to tell you what won't work for you. As I stated before, you need to have a list of each item you have and visit the software/hardware manufacture site and see if it works with Vista 64.


    Guess you could provide a list of what you have and if someone was so inclined they could do the research for you... sure that person is not me, but someone might.
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    Some support sites are not as clear as I'd like them to be, all they say is Windows XP/Vista and nothing else about details of different types. But thanks anyway. Sorry I bothered you.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Phone Diva View Post
    Some support sites are not as clear as I'd like them to be, all they say is Windows XP/Vista and nothing else about details of different types.
    You will have to contact them via email or telephone...
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    One example yesterday. I picked up a D-Link router box. Windows Vista and XP is all it said, no mention whatsoever if this included the 64-bit version of either. I hope they actually answer their email instead of giving me a form letter like some places have.

    Otherwise it's Best Buy or Circuit City's good return policies I'll have to deal with if nothing seems to work. I'll be trying the 32 bit compatabilty also.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
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    The only piece of the 'router' equation that might care about OS is the management interface, and even that is generally OS indifferent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Phone Diva View Post
    One example yesterday. I picked up a D-Link router box. Windows Vista and XP is all it said, no mention whatsoever if this included the 64-bit version of either. I hope they actually answer their email instead of giving me a form letter like some places have.

    Otherwise it's Best Buy or Circuit City's good return policies I'll have to deal with if nothing seems to work. I'll be trying the 32 bit compatabilty also.
    Again, you will have to visit their site... I went to their site and several of their adapters support windows vista, some don't and some don't support windows 64 (drivers won't install).

    The routers themselves should work but you will have to be careful on adapters (if you need adapters). Sometimes you need specific adapters with routers in order to reach advertised speeds (ie wireless routers). (Technically all routers should work, only suggesting that is not the only piece of the puzzle you need to worry about.)

    This is their contact site: http://support.dlink.com/contact/

    Does not look like they provide free phone support (from my brief look).

    It really sounds like you should stick with Vista 32. It is the choice I made and I know computers. Sticking with 32 bit is not a bad choice... you are not missing anything going to 32-bit. I don't think 64 will be "it" until the next version of windows ship (maybe even two versions from now).
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    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    [...] Sticking with 32 bit is not a bad choice... you are not missing anything going to 32-bit. I don't think 64 will be "it" until the next version of windows ship (maybe even two versions from now).
    That might even be optimistic. Given sluggish vendor support for 64 bit, I'm not sure if we'll totally kick 32 bit software until we have to (I'll be 68 then so hopefully I won't be in the field at that point).
    ‎"Is that suck and salvage the Kevin Costner method?" - Chris Matthews on Hardball, July 6, 2010. Wonder if he's talking about his oil device or his movie career...
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    The bad thing is it's now a norm on certain consumer released laptops with good specs. Are you allowed to clean install 32-bit over 64-bit?

    One computer I looked at was supposed to offer the option of which one you want to install, but that one's not my first choice.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Phone Diva View Post
    The bad thing is it's now a norm on certain consumer released laptops with good specs. Are you allowed to clean install 32-bit over 64-bit?

    One computer I looked at was supposed to offer the option of which one you want to install, but that one's not my first choice.
    In my first post, I provided a link to a notebook forum... you can get a clear (for sure) answer there...

    All you need is the model/make, etc and ask the question. Many times you can visit a vendors site (like HP) and call or email them to find out if you can "downgrade" to 32-bit. I can't remember off the top of my head... After a brief look, it looks like this is not clear... some state you can some state you can't. Sounds like one of those things where Microsoft has not put out clear enough information.

    Someone here might know though.... who knows... don't look like it though. lol

    The guys/gals on that notebook site are pretty good... except when it comes to notebook security. lol
    Last edited by theog; 08/14/2008 at 10:35 PM.
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