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  1. #841  
    BTW...this is my first inane ramble...

    Well, looks like I am going to my Senior Prom after all...
    I originally was not going to go, as I have heard our school's prom isn't that great, and just go to the after prom party...not worth spending the money on the tux, the dinner, etc.

    Boy, how having a date changes you! I am going to go with a good friend of mine that I have known forever whose date cancelled on her today, the day before the prom (creep...though I don't even know him...). I found this out basically at lunch today, and I have already rushed to the store to pick up a tux (luckily, they still had a nice one, and got a good deal for about $55), and I am going to the florist in the morning and see if I can pick up a last minute corsage. I am also trying to figure out where to take her to dinner as all the nice places have been reservations-only for a few weeks...she wants McDonalds or Taco Bell, but I am thinking I can do a little better than that...

    So tomorrow, I won't be on the boards much. I will be rushing around town trying to make everything nice for my new date...

    amazing how things can change in a matter of hours, isn't it?
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  2. #842  
    I skipped junior prom, got arrested and went to jail the week before senior prom, so i didn't go to that either.
  3.    #843  
    Originally posted by terrysalmi
    BTW...this is my first inane ramble...
    Welcome. Don't try reading this tread from the beginning.

    Regarding proms, I went to the junior prom with my bible-thumping ex. I wasn't impressed (with the prom or the ex), so I spent my senior prom at my future-wife's mom's house.
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  4. #844  
    Originally posted by dampeoples
    I skipped junior prom, got arrested and went to jail the week before senior prom, so i didn't go to that either.
    Wow, what did you do to get arrested?
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  5. #845  
    My junior prom date was a girl from India whose parents were so strict that we had to have the limo take her home at 10pm which meant leaving around dessert time. I spent the rest of the post-prom activities all by my lonesome self.

    My senior prom date was a wonderful albino girl. She was great at the prom, but the post-prom activities in NJ consist of going to seaside heights (boardwalk town) and we couldn't go outside for more than a minute at a time because her ultra-pale skin would start getting sunburn so we just hung out under the awnings and in the arcades.

    Yes. I wasn't the most popular guy in school and back then, could be identified as a geek/nerd.

    anyone who looks back on their high school days with that wistful look in their eyes and says "the good ol' days" should have their head pounded violently with a cast-iron skillet. College was much more fun than High School.
  6.    #846  
    Originally posted by NeilMcD
    anyone who looks back on their high school days with that wistful look in their eyes and says "the good ol' days" should have their head pounded violently with a cast-iron skillet.
    I say the same thing about college students. If you can't say that right now, you're not doing it right.
    -Joshua
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  7. #847  
    I got arrested for drinking under the age. I was spending the weekend fishing with my boss at the restaurant I was working at. We got hungry about 2AM and went to the restaurant...man, my dad was pissed.
  8. #848  
    Originally posted by dampeoples
    I got arrested for drinking under the age. I was spending the weekend fishing with my boss at the restaurant I was working at. We got hungry about 2AM and went to the restaurant...man, my dad was pissed.
    I forgot you could be arrested for that in the US...
    But it was ok to drive a car and carry a gun right?
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  9. #849  
    I'm assuming you mean sober. Sure it is. Guns are completely harmless, it's those stinking bullets and people that cause the problem.
  10.    #850  
    Originally posted by ToolkiT
    But it was ok to drive a car and carry a gun right?
    I'm not understanding your confusion. Looking at the statistics between alcohol related deaths and gun related deaths, there should unequivocably be harsher penalties for 'alcohol abuse' (as defined by the state) than gun ownership.

    Added:Oh, damnit. I forget that we don't look at statistics - which is why Americans like to believe that 'gun control legislation' is anything but so much scat. It just makes sense that someone breaking the law wouldn't use a gun because they're outlawed.
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  11. #851  
    Originally posted by ****-richardson

    I'm not understanding your confusion. Looking at the statistics between alcohol related deaths and gun related deaths, there should unequivocably be harsher penalties for 'alcohol abuse' (as defined by the state) than gun ownership.
    True, but if you can fight both issues why not? Why does the US system think you are man enough to drive and own a gun (both lethal weapons if used incorrectly) while they think you are not man enough to drink a beer... It just doesn't make sense to me...

    I would say Ban guns except for people who have a pretty damn good reason to use it.
    Also banning alcohol till 21 doesn't solve the alcohol abuse problem at all. If people are gradually introduced to alcohol they don't get the urge to catch up the moment they turn 21...
    American students seem to go wild the moment they are allowed to drink.

    Originally posted by ****-richardson
    Added:Oh, damnit. I forget that we don't look at statistics - which is why Americans like to believe that 'gun control legislation' is anything but so much scat. It just makes sense that someone breaking the law wouldn't use a gun because they're outlawed.
    True, but not making them available that easy makes it harder to get one, which makes it less likely to use one.. There always will be guns used by criminals I'm afraid, but in the US it seems like an arms-race between criminals and non-criminals. Criminals get a gun, non criminals need a bigger gun to defend themselves, which makes the criminals buy even bigger guns etc etc..
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  12. #852  
    Originally posted by dampeoples
    I'm assuming you mean sober. Sure it is. Guns are completely harmless, it's those stinking bullets and people that cause the problem.
    True...
    But I guess its the same with alcohol.. its is the people who abuse it who cause the problem... if you drink in moderation there is no problem..
    If you fire a gun in moderation (only half the clip) it can still be a big problem..
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  13. #853  
    Dilbert asks Dogbert what his position on gun control is. Dogbert replies: "I think EVERYONE should have whatever gun they want. Assault rifles, bazookas, etc. are OK. "

    Dilbert looks astounded. Dogbert continues, "But only I should have the ammuntion. After all, I'd only trust you goombahs with a piece of string."

    Dilbert asks, "what about charlton heston?"

    Dogbert, "I'd keep the string away from him."
  14. #854  
    I've had a dire need of SEVERAL mental breaks at work and took the time to read the entire thread from the beginning (yes, joshua, I'm a rebel!).

    I have to say, you guys are among the most, if not THE MOST, intelligent people on the internet today. I am flabbergasted that I even found this place. (OK having a Visor Pro helps).

    I really related to the religion questions back toward the beginning of the thread because its an issue between my wife and I (I'm agnostic, she's born again and we're trying to figure out what to do with our 7 month old kid).

    But I'll tell you this: don't read this thread from the beginning. It's like coedine.. you get slowly hooked and you don't know how to stop reading.
  15. #855  
    Someone needs to find a way to put this thread into a Palm Doc file, and post it on memoware, with monthly updates.
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  16. #856  
    Originally posted by NeilMcD
    I've had a dire need of SEVERAL mental breaks at work and took the time to read the entire thread from the beginning
    I presume that didn't happen in the 12 minutes between your posts ...

    By the way, Neil, your lunch is apparently on fire.

    (yes, joshua, I'm a rebel!).
    and you'll never ever be, any good.

    I really related to the religion questions back toward the beginning of the thread because its an issue between my wife and I (I'm agnostic, she's born again and we're trying to figure out what to do with our 7 month old kid).
    Let 'em think for his/herself.

    Granted the religion section was quite some time ago, and I or someone else may have said this (I don't have time to go back and see) but I really feel that exposing children to your religion before they're able to make their own decisions about that sort of thing is a form of brainwashing. I have this same problem with the public school system, however.
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  17. #857  
    dang. those turkey sandwiches are flammable. must be all the additives they put in lunch meats these days.

    This is what my wife and I agreed on:

    The kid can go with his mom to church and their sunday school sessions when he's older (say 7 years old when he's at an age that we can reasonably discuss what mom and dad believe). My wife and I strongly believe that he needs to reach his conclusions on his own through either rational thought or via his faith.

    We will tell him he is free to believe what he wants to believe. If he says he doesn't believe that, say, that Jesus walked on water or changed water to wine and gives a good rational argument (for his age), then my wife will have to respect his beliefs.

    Conversely, if he says he believes Jesus is the son of god and the only way to get to heaven is through him (or whatever it is John 3:16 says) and shows to me that he isn't just repeating what the teacher said, then I have to respect that belief as well.

    In sunday school or in regular school, he is free to question or disagree with the teacher on what she says (politely of course) and even discuss the subject matter in depth with the teacher (after class or during break). He is even free to explore other religions and check out their services and see what he believes in.

    In all, We want to teach him to think for himself and not to be the type of mindless drone that we see in some schools these days being taught how to pass the standards tests and not how to think for themselves.
  18. #858  
    Originally posted by ToolkiT
    I forgot you could be arrested for that in the US...
    *sigh* I could have sworn that we trod upon this already. There is _no_ universal standard on this in the United States. The federal government extorted the states to raise their drinking ages, but there is no code on how each state or jurisdiction must enforce it.
    But it was ok to drive a car and carry a gun right?
    Depends on how you were driving and which gun you were carrying. AAMOF, gun laws _are_ something which are applied across the US (except in the case of some states having _stricter_ standards). You can't buy a handgun if you're under 21.
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  19. #859  
    Originally posted by ToolkiT
    True, but if you can fight both issues why not? Why does the US system think you are man enough to drive and own a gun (both lethal weapons if used incorrectly) while they think you are not man enough to drink a beer... It just doesn't make sense to me...
    They don't think you're man enough to own a handgun, but you are man enough to own a rifle or shotgun. No, it's even more insane than you think in some ways; less so in others.
    I would say Ban guns except for people who have a pretty damn good reason to use it.
    I would say that I'm glad you live in another country.
    Also banning alcohol till 21 doesn't solve the alcohol abuse problem at all.
    Then how exactly will banning guns solve _that_ 'problem'.
    If people are gradually introduced to alcohol they don't get the urge to catch up the moment they turn 21...
    heh...one could make the same argument with guns, n'est ce pas?
    True, but not making them available that easy makes it harder to get one, which makes it less likely to use one..
    Then why do you not use this same logic WRT alcohol?
    There always will be guns used by criminals I'm afraid, but in the US it seems like an arms-race between criminals and non-criminals.
    I think you watch too much TV.
    Criminals get a gun, non criminals need a bigger gun to defend themselves, which makes the criminals buy even bigger guns etc etc..
    Sounds good for the newspapers, but FUD makes for horrible reason.
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  20. #860  
    Originally posted by ToolkiT
    True...
    But I guess its the same with alcohol.. its is the people who abuse it who cause the problem... if you drink in moderation there is no problem..
    If you fire a gun in moderation (only half the clip) it can still be a big problem..
    No, treating the gun with moderation would only be firing it when necessary. You're letting emotion cloud your reason.
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