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  1. #601  
    and the wild thing is, Obama's roll in it as well as the roll of many Democrat leaders would become very noticeable and that means blood and real problems for Obama. Just a note though, lots of guilt to spread around, just more on the left than the right.

    For me it just demonstrates your unwillingness to accept the real fact that this mess lies much heavier on the Democrats.
  2. #602  
    Quote Originally Posted by bclinger View Post
    No, it shows that he is willing to work with the other side. Plain and simple. Obama would never, ever propose anything like this.

    We are embarking upon socialism much faster than the socialists dreamed we would.
    McCain doesn't have any role in this crisis. He doesn't sit on the Banking Committee, or have any role as a senator in writing legislation related to this issue whatsoever. He wants a photo op. He certainly won't be doing anything on Friday night related to this issue.....it seems rather desperate.
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  3. #603  
    Quote Originally Posted by bclinger View Post
    and the wild thing is, Obama's roll in it as well as the roll of many Democrat leaders would become very noticeable and that means blood and real problems for Obama. Just a note though, lots of guilt to spread around, just more on the left than the right.

    For me it just demonstrates your unwillingness to accept the real fact that this mess lies much heavier on the Democrats.
    I urge you Ben, to discontinue taking in the waters, immersing yourself, and swimming that African river -- I honestly believe Ben, that the power of The Nile is much over rated.

    It clearly has neither cured or cleansed you yet.
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  4. #604  
    Quote Originally Posted by bclinger View Post
    and the wild thing is, Obama's roll in it as well as the roll of many Democrat leaders would become very noticeable and that means blood and real problems for Obama. Just a note though, lots of guilt to spread around, just more on the left than the right.

    For me it just demonstrates your unwillingness to accept the real fact that this mess lies much heavier on the Democrats.
    Wow. I guess its a good thing I'm traveling again - I'm just too tired to shred your bizarre and delusional commentary this evening. Not to mention, I'm really behind on my prayers for you and you're not slowing down on the whole lying through your teeth thing....so I gotta run.
  5. #605  
    Yeah, when you look at the number of Democrats involved, it is sort of hard to say they are innocent. Thank you though for the prayers, they are much needed.
  6. #606  
    Holy crap. Letterman basically raped McCain and deservedly so.:

    Tonights Letterman at which McCain was supposed to appear but had to streak back to Washington to save the day!

    Enough with the GIMMICKS "Straight Talk"!

    Get to the debate!
  7. #607  
    I am SO HAPPY that Sen. McCain is riding to the rescue of the American Tax Payer in this financial crisis, GIVEN his history in such similar situations:

    The Keating Five.

    So sad. So very sad.

  8. #608  
    The most interesting thing though with the Keating Five, in the sense that he was exonerated. Did not the lawyer for the Senate Ethics Committee ask to have McCain removed from the investigation altogether and did not the New York Times report something like that McCain was the only Republican in the affair and the Democrats on the panel would not release him.

    You need to work harder to draw a parallel here. What you can do though is look at the past several years as the Democrat party has been in control of Congress and who was in charge at a couple of places and where those people are now and Barney Frank and well, let us just run on-and-on with stuff that none of you wish to acknowledge. The messiah and the people associated with him and his campaign are wonderful in all respects. Guiltless. Just look at the 10's of millions of dollars a few of them walked off with. Guilty to the core and just plain dirty.
  9. #609  
    Quote Originally Posted by Iago View Post
    I can't wait for the debate. I predict a Gerald Ford moment....or two, hahaha
    He may even try and call time out so he can gather his thoughts.

    You read it here first folks. hahaha
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  10. #610  
    Quote Originally Posted by bclinger View Post
    The most interesting thing though with the Keating Five, in the sense that he was exonerated. Did not the lawyer for the Senate Ethics Committee ask to have McCain removed from the investigation altogether and did not the New York Times report something like that McCain was the only Republican in the affair and the Democrats on the panel would not release him.

    You need to work harder to draw a parallel here. What you can do though is look at the past several years as the Democrat party has been in control of Congress and who was in charge at a couple of places and where those people are now and Barney Frank and well, let us just run on-and-on with stuff that none of you wish to acknowledge. The messiah and the people associated with him and his campaign are wonderful in all respects. Guiltless. Just look at the 10's of millions of dollars a few of them walked off with. Guilty to the core and just plain dirty.
    Keating kept McCain in his pocket. Keating made McCain. It's disgusting that this populous has such a poor memory.
  11. #611  
    Yeah, and you just gotta remember that the Chicago political machine made Obama. It is disgusting taht this population has such a poor memory.
  12. #612  
    Quote Originally Posted by bclinger View Post
    The most interesting thing though with the Keating Five, in the sense that he was exonerated. Did not the lawyer for the Senate Ethics Committee ask to have McCain removed from the investigation altogether and did not the New York Times report something like that McCain was the only Republican in the affair and the Democrats on the panel would not release him.

    He was not entirely exonerated - he was rebuked by the Ethics Committee for demonstrating poor judgment.
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  13. #613  
    Quote Originally Posted by bclinger View Post
    Yeah, and you just gotta remember that the Chicago political machine made Obama. It is disgusting taht this population has such a poor memory.
    So, and I've asked you before, show us any documentation that there was any wrongdoing done by Obama or the "political machine" in his candidacy for any office. Just repeating "political machine" and "associated with terrorist" ad nauseum adds nothing to any conversation...it just makes you look like a knee-jerk Republican apologist.
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  14. #614  
    Quote Originally Posted by bclinger View Post

    You need to work harder to draw a parallel here. What you can do though is look at the past several years as the Democrat party has been in control of Congress
    Not to mess with your head with facts, but the reality is that Democrats have been in control of Congress for the past year and one half; for the six years before that, Republicans had been in control of both the Presidency and Congress. And, you may recall, their entire economic philosophy has been one of deregulation and 'letting the market decide'.

    One can have an honest disagreement about whether "trickle down economics" and deregulation are effective, but let's not just make stuff up.
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  15. #615  
    Bujin, I take it then that you did not hear Bill Clinton's interview on the TV? as for references, you really can look and Google yourself - links will be presented just for you courtesy of Google. You might learn something more than what you do not know. Also the market did not decide the actions putting us where we are now - politics did.
  16. #616  
    Just a few historical tidbits:

    Republicans have won 7 of last10 elections.

    Jimmy Carter is the only Dem candidate to win 50% of the vote in the last 50 years.

    When Republicans win it's more often than not a blowout.

    This election is close, but Dems come from a historically disadvantaged position, so maybe I'll moderate my Opinion of Obama.
    Maybe he is one of the best candidates Dems have had in the last 50 years...
    Right up there with Jimmy Carter.
  17. #617  
    Quote Originally Posted by WHarropson View Post
    Just a few historical tidbits:

    Republicans have won 7 of last10 elections.
    And who was the President that left the country better off financially than he found it?
    When Republicans win it's more often than not a blowout.
    You were doing ok until you went there. The last two elections were by no means a "blowout."

    I guess since we are going back 10, then you must love Nixon. McCain and Palin would end about the same as Nixon. Actually, Palin is starting out like Nixon ended and McCain has already had his "nixon" years with many more to come....
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  18. #618  
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    You were doing ok until you went there. The last two elections were by no means a "blowout."
    He said more often than not. You mentioned the last two, so there are still 5 that are unmentioned. Presumably, since you mentioned only specifically the last two elections, the other 5 were blowouts. 5 is more than 2. Thus, more often than not, Republicans win by a blowout.

    I have no idea if that's true or not, as I don't really care to look into the history of it, but I just felt like being a **** and arguing with you on something very trivial.
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  19. #619  
    Quote Originally Posted by Freak4Dell View Post
    He said more often than not. You mentioned the last two, so there are still 5 that are unmentioned. Presumably, since you mentioned only specifically the last two elections, the other 5 were blowouts. 5 is more than 2. Thus, more often than not, Republicans win by a blowout.

    I have no idea if that's true or not, as I don't really care to look into the history of it, but I just felt like being a **** and arguing with you on something very trivial.
    Actually, only three were a "blowout."

    Go be a **** someplace where you have researched or have knowledge. You kids are toooo easy...
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  20. #620  
    I never claimed to have researched or have knowledge of which elections were blowouts. I do have knowledge of math, so I was being a **** about that
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