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  1. #121  
    Quote Originally Posted by mikec View Post
    Care to place a wager on that?

    I don't think Obama wants to, but I think his hand will be forced (if the deal isn't already done.)

    Hillary on ticket = guaranteed loss

    Hillary not ticket = probable loss

    she's unlikely to be on the ticket

    though many of her supporters may stay home or vote for McCain if she's not chosen, I believe any synergy between them does not offset the damage she would do to him as VP.

    The press would focus on her as much as him, on how she came to be on the ticket, on the Bill factor etc.

    Though I continue to have some forboding about Obama prevailing, the more McCain performs like he did in the clips I saw where he challenged Obama to a series of town hall debates, the less concerned I become. (though still concerned...)
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  2. #122  
    Quote Originally Posted by mikec View Post
    Anyway, I'm still waiting for any takers....
    I'll take some of that. I need a new extended battery, how about you buy me one of these: Smartphone Experts Extended Battery for Treo 700wx?

  3. #123  
    Quote Originally Posted by mikec View Post
    Casino games are not rigged. The odds or all card games are known. Slots are programmed witnesses a specific odds/payback level, but each spin is randomly executed.

    The fact you think the games are rigged makes me laugh.
    The house always wins. Period. To make sure of this, when the house looses too much, they make sure they win by kicking out the player who was beating them fair and square at their own game.
  4. #124  
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal View Post
    The house always wins. Period. To make sure of this, when the house looses too much, they make sure they win by kicking out the player who was beating them fair and square at their own game.
    Actually they comp you a room to get you to stay and play more so they can recoup the money.
  5. #125  
    Just as an off topic side note, totally I agree, if you have the big money to bet they would love to put you up to play more....as long as you have a history of losing big too.

    I was watching a show on the one of the History / Discovery type channels and it was on professional players who play totally by the rules but are so good, they nearly always win over the house. This is all they do. They followed around something like 5 professional gamblers with a hidden camera. Some of them are so good, they only spend about 3 weeks out to of the year in the casinos and don't work the rest of the year. Each one got kicked, 3 of them banned for life, from the casino. Each one asked if they were accused of cheating. They said no. When asked why they were being thrown out, they said that they simple were not welcome to play any more at their casino. They asked if it was because the were winning more than losing, they just repeated that they were not welcome to play at their casino again. The show took the footage back to the casinos and after they saw it, they refused to talk about, answer any questions, and kicked them out too. Bottom line, if the house loses by it's own rules, they kick out the winner.
  6. #126  
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal View Post
    Just as an off topic side note, totally I agree, if you have the big money to bet they would love to put you up to play more....as long as you have a history of losing big too.

    I was watching a show on the one of the History / Discovery type channels and it was on professional players who play totally by the rules but are so good, they nearly always win over the house. This is all they do. They followed around something like 5 professional gamblers with a hidden camera. Some of them are so good, they only spend about 3 weeks out to of the year in the casinos and don't work the rest of the year. Each one got kicked, 3 of them banned for life, from the casino. Each one asked if they were accused of cheating. They said no. When asked why they were being thrown out, they said that they simple were not welcome to play any more at their casino. They asked if it was because the were winning more than losing, they just repeated that they were not welcome to play at their casino again. The show took the footage back to the casinos and after they saw it, they refused to talk about, answer any questions, and kicked them out too. Bottom line, if the house loses by it's own rules, they kick out the winner.
    True, it's pretty unfortunate that they are protected from fair play losses with the "we refuse the right to provide service to anyone".
  7. #127  
    Quote Originally Posted by mikec View Post
    Casino games are not rigged. The odds or all card games are known. Slots are programmed witnesses a specific odds/payback level, but each spin is randomly executed.

    The fact you think the games are rigged makes me laugh.
    when I lived in MS I was best friends with a guy who worked in a large casino.... his opinion differed from yours. My opinion also differs from what I've read over the years... but no big deal. Does not matter anyway.
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  8. #128  
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal View Post
    Just as an off topic side note, totally I agree, if you have the big money to bet they would love to put you up to play more....as long as you have a history of losing big too.

    I was watching a show on the one of the History / Discovery type channels and it was on professional players who play totally by the rules but are so good, they nearly always win over the house. This is all they do. They followed around something like 5 professional gamblers with a hidden camera. Some of them are so good, they only spend about 3 weeks out to of the year in the casinos and don't work the rest of the year. Each one got kicked, 3 of them banned for life, from the casino. Each one asked if they were accused of cheating. They said no. When asked why they were being thrown out, they said that they simple were not welcome to play any more at their casino. They asked if it was because the were winning more than losing, they just repeated that they were not welcome to play at their casino again. The show took the footage back to the casinos and after they saw it, they refused to talk about, answer any questions, and kicked them out too. Bottom line, if the house loses by it's own rules, they kick out the winner.
    Kinda reminds me of a partner of mine who played poker... when he played locally he knew all the guys and would always bring a bottle of johnny walker or some other good alcohol... long story short, he would win.

    For a while he played with another guy... same routine as above, except an hour later the other guy would come in an join the game... they would rack up.

    But does all of that sound familiar? lol... the alcohol for sure.

    I'm still surprised there are people who are neive enough to believe Vegas is "real."

    Reminds me of that movie when the guy asks the other guy, "I bet you believe hookers like you too?" Yea.

    I don't care for vegas... it is about as fake as you can get. But vegas is good entertainment for some people... they do have great places to hold conferences and nice (very nice) food. Vegas is "pretty" to look at though... good shows, etc... not all bad. I did like "old vegas" a bit more. That is more my style....

    Then again, I've just about been around the world and the only place that "wowed" me was the Vatican. The Vatican is simply amazing. And I'm not even that religious... most people who know me are surprised when I say that. lol... Vat is a cool place, I enjoyed it.
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