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  1. #21  
    Vista on Core2 Duo is slow, irritating to use and it took a lot of work to set it up to run some (heavy - CAD, development environment) applications... I suppose it is ok for the office suite and email.

    Eventually MS will fix everything in SP2 or something. If I had a choice, I'd stick with XP for some more time, as it was quiet good.

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  2. #22  
    I have Vista Home Premium running on my Gateway 17" laptop, 3gb memory, Core 2 Duo, NVIDIA Geforce 8800M graphics, et cetera - it is very fast. My only complaint with it is the Bluetooth implementation. Last week I disabled the Bluetooth drivers and installed the Bluetooth dongle I was using on my Acer 17" laptop running Vista and gosh, what a mistake! Two hours to undo what took me 10 minutes to do.

    My suggestion: same, stick with XP. I just do not want to lay out an additional $200+ for XP.

    Ben
  3. #23  
    I have Vista at home and XP Pro at work. Can't tell much difference. I will say MS Office 2007 SUCKS!!! Why doesn't MS offer a "classic" look?
  4. #24  
    Ditto on the Office 2007, the new look does such.

    As far as Vista vs. XP goes (though I know that may be pointless as old as this thread is), I'd stick with XP.
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  5. #25  
    Vista is better.
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    I vote Vista. I upgraded all 3 of my machines, but I had to keep another with dual boot XP due to some wierd-special data collection software that doesn't support vista.

    Other than that, I'm totally happy with Vista. My Dell laptop, which I purchased with XP pro and it was labeled Vista capable, runs way better on Vista than it did with XP. With XP, I frequently had problems with hibernation...so I would have to hard reset or cold boot frequently....now with Vista, I only restart my laptop when I install patches or new software.

    Ditto on the Office 2007. It took me about 2 months to get 'comfortable' with the layout...but now. I love it.... I mainly wanted Office 2007 for Outlook. I liked the looks of the calendar view. PS. Remember to click the 'Office circle' in the upper left hand corner. there is a lot of stuff in the circle. I ignored that circle for several weeks and I was beginning to get very frustrated with Office 2007 until I clicked on the circle. I've seen many people miss that circle.
  7. #27  
    I am taking Vista off of my machines when I have a day to do it. I have had nothing but resistance every step of the way with security settings. I have been force to all but open up Vista just so I can work. I gave it a really good shot....since just after it was first released. The memory leaks in IE kills me with work. I have to close all IE windows at least 2 times a day to clear out the memory that it will not release....and I have 3 gigs of memory!!!! The OS is now crashing nearly every day, if not twice, as well.

    Most of my co-workers are very tech savvy, many with IT degrees and certs, and when I talked to them about my concerns I have been facing to see if I was just unique case, they confirmed that I am not alone.

    For personal needs, it is fine. But I am going back to XP.
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    #28  
    I'm sticking with XP. My experience is that there are just too many instances of software and hardware that Vista won't play nicely with for it to be an option for me for business use, and whilst it's pretty, it's too slow for recreational use. IMNSHO Vista may be ready to grace my PCs in a year or so (or put it another way, by then I may have no choice!)

    Office 2007 is a nice upgrade though, but not worth the money unless you need to buy a new copy anyway.
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  9. #29  
    Quote Originally Posted by justicejayant x View Post
    Vista is better.
    Because you're new, because you had temerity to say nice things about THE MONKEY elsewhere -- I won't rip you apart for what you've said here in regard to Vista.

    I won't scream at you that Vista is a dog. A scrawny rabid flee infested dog.

    Which has bad breath.

    That its slow -- that it plays miserably on networks of mixed OSes (XP etc), that its interface is restricted in a way that REMOVES options from a sophisticated user to configure and personalize their space and structure their folders and data...

    I've been able to "dumb down" vista to be as close to an XP user interface as I think its possible to be -- yet it still constantly handcuffs me.

    Why is it that M$ has emulated S.Jobs' fetish for limiting user control of their environment ???

    IE7 is MUCH less configurable than IE6, and Vista is MUCH less configurable than XP.

    How many bytes were spared, but many electrons did not need to be sacrificed because M$ choose to not write a true "XP Classic" overlay skin ???

    They could still have had their GPU crushing eye candy, they could have still improved the underlying OS plumbing, and they could even have filtered out the hardware drivers that had propensity to cause crash conflicts -- while also providing maximum flexibility to the user.

    Aside from the drivers being unavailable for XP legacy hardware -- why can't a user have a "forced" compatibility option for hardware that will never get a new driver written for it??

    I turned that stupid user account control off within moments of booting into vista the first time -- does anyone use it?? how brilliant was the brainiac who invented that ???

    BTW -- vista crashes as often as XP...
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  10. #30  
    hotrod>> Are you serious? Outlook 2007? Everybody and their uncle are complaining... I'm sticking with Outlook Express & Windows Live Mail for now.

    BARYE>> I really don't think "Vista is better" deserved any comment... justicejayant x's first post in a Treo forum is about Vista. I don't believe we'll be seeing h{im|er} again.
  11. #31  
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenHex View Post
    hotrod>> Are you serious? Outlook 2007? Everybody and their uncle are complaining... I'm sticking with Outlook Express & Windows Live Mail for now.

    Really. Why. I've had NO PROBLEMS since I've installed it (several several months ago). It has shutdown improperly, maybe 3 times, but I couldn't tell you if it was it's fault or some other process in that screwed things up. I'm using Outlook 2007 on 4 machines, one I share with my wife and she uses it on her profile as well. I'm very happy.
  12. #32  
    Quote Originally Posted by hotrod View Post
    Ditto on the Office 2007. It took me about 2 months to get 'comfortable' with the layout...but now. I love it.... I mainly wanted Office 2007 for Outlook. I liked the looks of the calendar view. PS. Remember to click the 'Office circle' in the upper left hand corner. there is a lot of stuff in the circle. I ignored that circle for several weeks and I was beginning to get very frustrated with Office 2007 until I clicked on the circle. I've seen many people miss that circle.

    I found the circle, but why on earth should they hide all the good stuff there when it should be on the toolbar? Too many clicks to get what you want. I wish MS would offer a "classic view".
  13. #33  
    Quote Originally Posted by Deltaflyer View Post
    I found the circle, but why on earth should they hide all the good stuff there when it should be on the toolbar? Too many clicks to get what you want. I wish MS would offer a "classic view".
    You can add stuff to your toolbar from the circle or any other place. I like it since I create my own toolbar to work the way I want it to work.

    In all office 07 has increased the speed and ease of creating very nice documents.

    I highly recommend the MS videos on office 07... they are great to find those hidden treasures. Office 07 is nice... so much so I uninstalled openoffice for the first time in many, many years.... well, never installed it after a format.

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    Far as vista vs. xp... I have both at home... vista ult on the laptop, next to me now all the time, and xp pro on my desktop. Been doing some major business stuff lately and needed both to get things accomplished. Vista is a fine OS... no issues. I can't tell a speed difference between both of them side by side. Guess benchmarks tell a different story though.... but I don't know if someone can honestly tell a difference in one or two seconds in the real world use. To be seen.

    I'll more than likely move my desktop over to vista business now that sp1 was released yesterday... see no major reason to stick with xp now that MS and most other companies are serving up the love for vista. lol

    Each his or her own... both are ok. Sure vista is "different." But then my mac is different from my Ubuntu (linux) build.... Ubuntu different from xp and so on. One "better" than the other? Let the zealots ring a soundly "yes" from the rooftops... truth is all are fine OSs.
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    i just did a reformat on my pc and added xp pro i had vista but i do not like the looks and feel , first of all the looks of vista is to kiddy for me programs do not run correctly vista wont be fully functional until 2009 when updates and software companys catch up.Keznews has good info if you want advice on windows.
  15. #35  
    Quote Originally Posted by faceoff101 View Post
    for me programs do not run correctly vista wont be fully functional until 2009 when updates and software companys catch up.Keznews has good info if you want advice on windows.
    What programs don't run properly on your computer?
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    WordPerfect wants the new Vista release - I have V12 on my laptops and after exiting WP, there are those times when an error message comes up indicating the program was not properly exited. In addition, Omniform has problems scanning properly.

    I installed the Service Pack 1 on both laptops today - the operation was successful.

    Ben
  17. #37  
    I've got vista in my work PC and cant say I'm impressed.. it has some nice features but none of them I'd really miss and in general the OS seems flakey like it is a beta release..
    Getting to get my USB memory stick to work was a pain in the arse..
    And for a long time when i closed an IE window it would close ALL IE windows, very annoying..
    Luckily a windows update fixed that, but it still bluescreens on me occasionally and I've hardly have that happen to me in the last 10 years...

    I'd say stick with XP and wait till vista is more mature..
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  18. #38  
    Enjoy the Service Pack 1 update - I did it last night on both of my Vista laptops and have seen no differences. Ben
  19. #39  
    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT View Post
    I've got vista in my work PC and cant say I'm impressed.. it has some nice features but none of them I'd really miss and in general the OS seems flakey like it is a beta release..
    Getting to get my USB memory stick to work was a pain in the arse..
    And for a long time when i closed an IE window it would close ALL IE windows, very annoying..
    Luckily a windows update fixed that, but it still bluescreens on me occasionally and I've hardly have that happen to me in the last 10 years...

    I'd say stick with XP and wait till vista is more mature..
    If you had an update to fix something, does not sound like you have tried vista with sp1... you should give that a swirl then see how mature it is... more importantly, I'd check all drivers as well... if you have seen a blue screen, then a driver is messed up someplace.

    I've installed a couple of builds and now run it on some of my computers, no bluescreens, except when I attempted to force install a card (that was funny).

    But if xp is working fine for you, no need to move over... although, I like to be working in the latest and greatest... it is all good.
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