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    Quote Originally Posted by awerry View Post
    I forgot exactly how much she was involved in this issue until she reminded me today when I told her about your "credentials" question. She said: "I worked for the U.S. Senator who sponsored the Partial Birth Abortion Ban, which President Bush signed into law, and which was framed and hung in my office, along with the pen that President Bush used to sign the bill."

    So, yeah... she is my source. She suggested you read:
    So in fact she's part of the problem then.

    Surur
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    #242  
    The National Right to Life Council? Are you kidding me?

    Damn, I almost snorted my scotch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musicman247 View Post
    At 8 weeks a child has:

    All major body organs and systems are formed but not completely developed.
    Early stages of the placenta, which exchanges nutrients from your body for waste products produced by the baby, are visible and working.
    Ears, ankles and wrists are formed. Eyelids form and grow but are sealed shut.
    Fingers and toes are developed.

    Source: http://www.marchofdimes.com/pnhec/2138.asp
    And yet at 22 weeks, the fetus is no greater than 50% viable with a very high likelihood of permanent brain damage. The lungs will not be fully developed until week 26.

    Source: www.cdc.gov
    Last edited by backbeat; 04/25/2007 at 05:51 PM.
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    #244  
    Quote Originally Posted by surur View Post
    So in fact she's part of the problem then.

    Surur
    Not if there's an atom of truth in his statement. That (former) Senator was none other than Little Rickie Santorum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by backbeat View Post
    Not if there's an atom of truth in his statement. That (former) Senator was none other than Little Rickie Santorum.
    Santorum .... isn't that some kind of brown foamy discharge....

    Surur
    Last edited by surur; 04/25/2007 at 06:00 PM.
  6. #246  
    Quote Originally Posted by surur View Post
    So in fact she's part of the problem then.

    Surur

    ROFL... thanks for proving my point.
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    #247  
    Quote Originally Posted by awerry View Post
    ROFL... thanks for proving my point.
    A point of what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by backbeat View Post
    A point of what?
    My point was that Surur weren't serious about giving honest and thoughtful consideration to an opposing position.

    When I gave him something to consider and discuss, he just ignored it in toto and instead took a shot at my daughter because he feels she is part of "the problem."

    Classic ad hominem.
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    #249  
    What specific data did your daughter feed you which directly addresses:

    What peer-reviewed evidence exists of a legally obtained abortion of a viable >26-week fetus where the woman's life was not in immediate risk of loss or in an attempt to salvage the fetus when health/trauma circumstances warranted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by awerry View Post
    My point was that Surur weren't serious about giving honest and thoughtful consideration to an opposing position.

    When I gave him something to consider and discuss, he just ignored it in toto and instead took a shot at my daughter because he feels she is part of "the problem."

    Classic ad hominem.
    So you don't think being so intimately involved on the apposing side has any impact on her credibility?

    She said: "I worked for the U.S. Senator who sponsored the Partial Birth Abortion Ban, which President Bush signed into law, and which was framed and hung in my office, along with the pen that President Bush used to sign the bill."
    Yes, she is definitely an unbiased source...

    Surur
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    Quote Originally Posted by surur View Post

    Yes, she is definitely an unbiased source...

    Surur
    I don't ever remember saying she was unbiased, did I? Anyone who knows her could tell you that isn't the case.
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    #252  
    Quote Originally Posted by surur View Post
    So you don't think being so intimately involved on the apposing side has any impact on her credibility?

    Yes, she is definitely an unbiased source...

    Surur
    Well, awwery, don't just sit there. You've got homework to do.

    I have to wonder what enlightened effort she lobbies for now that she's no longer feeding at the Santorum trough.
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    This Santorum
    ?

    I made an extra donation to Planned Parenthood today in the name of all you fundies out there.
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    tick-tock, awerry .... tick-tock
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    awerry - Your daughter not speaking to you any more?
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