View Poll Results: So what should 4ster drive?

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  • Nissan Versa (New)

    2 16.67%
  • Honda Fit (New)

    4 33.33%
  • Toyota Matrix (Used)

    0 0%
  • Honda Civic (Used)

    5 41.67%
  • Toyota Corolla (Used)

    1 8.33%
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  1. 4ster's Avatar
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       #1  
    Hi everyone:

    I need help choosing a car. I have totally over thought this, so now I need to hear some voices outside my head. My price range is as close to $15K as possible.

    The contenders are:

    New cars in my price range:

    Nissan Versa
    Honda Fit

    Used cars in my price range (maybe):
    Toyota Matrix
    Honda Civic
    Toyota Corolla

    Ideal (Dream on):
    Subaru Forester (and no, it's not because it's is also my last name)

    Please do not suggest the Yaris or anything Scion (crash test issues). Nothing made by Ford or any of its subsidiaries (including Mazda).

    FWIW, I am married, drive a lot, and have a kid. I am 6' 180lbs, and currently have a Ford Escort. I love hatchbacks, so everything tilts in their favor.

    Important things:
    1. Safety
    2. Reliability
    3. Cost

    Right now, the Versa is a strong contender, because it is in my range with good crash results. The Fit does as well as the Versa (both have side airbags) on frontal and side crashes, but the Fit is poor in rear collisions (for this I am using the Insurance Institute rankings, instead of the governments, as they are stricter). I love the Fit for the flexibility in moving the seats around, but I worry about rear-end collisions and sitting atop the gas tank.

    Now you know all I know. Any help appreciated.

    Peace,

    4s
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    chat with dealers online first... my new accord coupe was only $19,000 (plus 300 tax -- capped in SC)... this was 2 1/2 years ago. The entire process was online first... price, everything...

    I can't imagine a new civic costing 15k or above... unless you went with full options. My lastest coupe is an EX, but skipped the leather and V-6 (stuff I had on my previous accord coupe).

    Anyway, I would get the civic or corolla... then again, I don't have a kid and wife... don't know what I would get, to be honest....

    The fit seems too new... nissan... you can go either way with them, some nice cars, some dogs.... Matrix?? sounds like a movie.... but I don't know the car.... too lazy to bother to look it up... I guess you have the net so the same mags I can visit, you can as well... lol
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    you can't go wrong with a toyota, but if you want some more fun try to get a good deal on the new model civic.

    And keep saving for that Forester, they are awesome cars, I had 2, a '98 limited and a '04 XT (2,5 liter turbo)
    the turbo one is the ultimate sleeper. it is as fast as the Z350 (in a straight line) and can carry all you need
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    Where in the country are you? If you're anywhere that gets major snow, I would go for the matrix because it has 4WD.

    Instead of the Forester, also consider the smaller Subie wagons. An impreza based wagon (outback sport or RS wagon) can be had for around $17k new, so you should be able to pick up a 3 year old example for well under $10k.

    Fit & Yaris are just too small in my opinion - great for driving in real big cities (NYC, Boston, Chicago), but just too unsafe on the highway with everyone else in trucks. At least the civic and corolla have a bit more "beef", and the gas mileage doesn't suffer too much for it.
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    I am near Charlottesville, VA, but work in a field where (technically) I could be moved any time, so I could wind up in the suburbs of DC or in the boonies, although I have every reason to believe I will be in this area for the life of this car.

    Charlottesville is in the mountains of VA, for those who haven't been here.

    Thanks for all the input. I really appreciate it.
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    Sold our 1994 Civil LX last year because a third car seat wouldn't fit. At 263,000 miles, we were going strong, with full expectation of reaching at least 300K.

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    Edit: Just realize that was almost 2 years ago
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    Buying a new car is the single worse financial decision one can make. Buy used and well researched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    Buying a new car is the single worse financial decision one can make. Buy used and well researched.
    Indeed.

    If you must have new, invest some money and pay for the vehicle through the proceeds.
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    I couldn't agree more. I have only bought a new car once, and it was a demo, so it was "less new" than some.

    The only thing that got me thinking new at all was that the Versa and Fit were unavailable used and their prices were low.

    But I keep coming back to: "Yeah, and why do you think their prices are low, if their are not using cheaper components?"

    I also just found online an '04 Forester that can be had in the $17k range with less than 25k miles, so maybe more is possible than I thought.
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    If anyone has a moment, could you look at this:

    http://www.carfax.com/cfm/ccc_Displa...SG65664H725040

    and see if anything bad jumps out at you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4ster View Post
    If anyone has a moment, could you look at this:

    http://www.carfax.com/cfm/ccc_Displa...SG65664H725040

    and see if anything bad jumps out at you?
    Looks like orignal owner had a 3 year lease, and that the lease holder was in Virginia. Looks like the car was driven for a couple hundred miles since then.

    If you are driving in VA mountains, a standrd shift woud be better. but a 2.5 L engine should be beefy enough even with an automatic. (Try to take it on some good hills during a test-drive to make sure that it can handle these with at least two adult pasengers.

    We've had Subaru's in the past and really liked them. Ask the dealer if orignal owner had an extended warranty (and if so, whether it's transferrable). Otherwise, this is probably a good car!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bclancy View Post
    If you are driving in VA mountains, a standrd shift woud be better. but a 2.5 L engine should be beefy enough even with an automatic. (Try to take it on some good hills during a test-drive to make sure that it can handle these with at least two adult pasengers.

    We've had Subaru's in the past and really liked them. Ask the dealer if orignal owner had an extended warranty (and if so, whether it's transferrable). Otherwise, this is probably a good car!

    -- Bob
    I had a 2L forester automatic and that one was capable enough, the 2.5 should be more than capable..
    I know the 2.5 turbo made hills feel flat, where the old 2L one had to downshift and make more revs, the 2.5T hardly dropped in revs let alone shift down.
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    You probably can go wrong with a Corolla or Matrix since both are likely to last you a very long time and be inexpensive to drive.
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       #14  
    OK, I am going with the used Forester. Something with around 25K miles.

    One more question: Would you get an extended warranty if you were me?

    Thanks again.
    Safety and happiness can only come from individuals, classes, and nations being honest and fair and kind to each other.
    - C.S. Lewis
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    What does the extended warranty cover, for how long and at what cost? Also, search the web and try to determine the types of problems Foresters are having up to 50K-75K miles. Would those problems be covered by the extended warranty?
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    After reading this thread, I looked at subaru legacy gt's 05's. WOW, I'm impressed. you get a lot of car for 17k.
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    Cost being a factor, try to make sure that whatever you buy uses regular unleaded. Many cars these days have engines designed to run on premium gas. It's just one thing to check.
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    Wow, thanks Copernicus. I did not know that. I thought everything used regular gas.

    I guess that's what driving an Escort for 5 years does to you.
    Safety and happiness can only come from individuals, classes, and nations being honest and fair and kind to each other.
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    I heard the Matrix is getting rid of the AWD.

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