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    hypothetical scenario. Terrorists are able to acquire a nuclear device (not a dirty bomb). said bomb is then detonated say in NYC. approximately 500,000 to 1 million people are killed. The Northeastern seaboard is a radioactive mess. What do you do?

    With a couple of caveats:

    1. no responses about Gov't conspiracy.
    2. no responses about Ruling party power grab.

    what would be your plan of action if you were not killed or severely injured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nesman89 View Post
    hypothetical scenario. Terrorists are able to acquire a nuclear device (not a dirty bomb). said bomb is then detonated say in NYC. approximately 500,000 to 1 million people are killed. The Northeastern seaboard is a radioactive mess. What do you do?

    With a couple of caveats:

    1. no responses about Gov't conspiracy.
    2. no responses about Ruling party power grab.

    what would be your plan of action if you were not killed or severely injured.
    I would ask that Kerry's plan for securing the world's nuklear weapons and weapons grade material, as he presented it during the 2004 election, be reviewed and implemented.
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    I would ask that Kerry's plan for securing the world's nuklear weapons and weapons grade material, as he presented it during the 2004 election, be reviewed and implemented.
    Wouldn't that be like closing the barn door after the horses escaped? What scares me is that we are already at that point, and Kerry's plan, while elegant and detailed, reads more like an idealistic high school valedictory speech than a realistic plan. How do we stop the production of weapons grade nuclear material in areas beyond the reach of political interjection? No amount of conciliatory appeasement, withdrawal from the spheres of influence in Islamic nations, or polite pleading will eliminate this threat. It's a matter of when, not if.
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    Too late the Nuke has been detonated.


    What do you do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gasmeister View Post
    Wouldn't that be like closing the barn door after the horses escaped? What scares me is that we are already at that point, and Kerry's plan, while elegant and detailed, reads more like an idealistic high school valedictory speech than a realistic plan. How do we stop the production of weapons grade nuclear material in areas beyond the reach of political interjection? No amount of conciliatory appeasement, withdrawal from the spheres of influence in Islamic nations, or polite pleading will eliminate this threat. It's a matter of when, not if.
    The problem is far more the existing nuclear weapons and weapons grade material that is not being monitored properly (I'm looking at you for Soviet Union).
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    Quote Originally Posted by nesman89 View Post
    hypothetical scenario. Terrorists are able to acquire a nuclear device (not a dirty bomb). said bomb is then detonated say in NYC. approximately 500,000 to 1 million people are killed. The Northeastern seaboard is a radioactive mess. What do you do?

    With a couple of caveats:

    1. no responses about Gov't conspiracy.
    2. no responses about Ruling party power grab.

    what would be your plan of action if you were not killed or severely injured.
    Personally, or as head of state?
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    Quote Originally Posted by samkim View Post
    Personally, or as head of state?
    Wow is that you mr Bush?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT View Post
    Wow is that you mr Bush?
    Quote Originally Posted by nesman89 View Post
    hypothetical scenario.
    Since I don't know nesman, I don't know what kind of thread he or she intends. Either way can draw out some interesting political issues.
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    Originally Posted by samkim View Post
    Personally, or as head of state?

    you are the top dog the man in charge. you are reading school books to children and someone slowly walks up to you and whispers " Mr. Man in charge" NYC has just been wiped off the map.

    what do you do?
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    A few things come to mind.

    1. Oversee the disaster recovery.
    2. Lock down the country until we're sure we're safe from another immediate attack.
    3. Prepare for retaliation scenarios (if they're not prepared already) while we figure out who did this and where the nuke came from.
    4. Mobilize the military to play a big role in everything. Not sure yet if martial law is necessary.
    5. Reassure the public that security measures are in place and that the nation is mobilizing to recover and respond. In addition to the massive humanitarian crisis, there will be widespread panic. There will be rumors of another strike. People will be fleeing other cities.

    Of course, this will all be the fault of liberals who insisted on restricting the counter-intelligence programs that might have prevented such an attack, but there will be plenty of time for holding them accountable later, or at least those that survived. (I believe Times Square would be the likely target of a nuclear bomb, as opposed to lower Manhattan, and so the headquarters of any publishers headquartered there would be vaporized.)
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    I'll clean my guns and put on my Mad Maxx leathers and gather up my posse for some post-apocalyptic funz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas View Post
    I'll clean my guns and put on my Mad Maxx leathers and gather up my posse for some post-apocalyptic funz.
    Your Secret Service detail might control your movement for a while.
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    I would guess that the country would cry for a strike on someone somewhere it doesn't matter who. The pressure would be to hit Iran or N. Korea or both. At the same time maybe China would decide to take over Tawain.
    I would hope that we have some type of intell on who did it but because of our new laws all we could only ask them nicely who did it. As they laugh and spit in our faces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT View Post
    Wow is that you mr Bush?
    What an insult! Thread closed because of shameful insinuation and personal attack on samkim!
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    Quote Originally Posted by g.711 View Post
    I would guess that the country would cry for a strike on someone somewhere it doesn't matter who. The pressure would be to hit Iran or N. Korea or both. At the same time maybe China would decide to take over Taiwan.
    You are very right in the fact that this one event would start a chain reaction of events that would lead to global consequences. All of the scenarios you listed above are not only very possible, but very probable.

    I would personally hold many of the Left accountable due to their, IMHO, mislead crusade for the equal rights of terrorists. I would also hold the Bush Admin greatly responsible due to the fact that the most likely scenario of smuggling in a nuke into this country is through our open borders and largely unsecured ports. Many of the issues related to both of those were well known and debated before 9/11.....let alone the glare secure risks of both after 9/11. Now 5 years later, hardly nothing more is done to secure our borders or ports beyond using both issues a political cards from both sides.

    Quote Originally Posted by g.711 View Post
    I would hope that we have some type of intell on who did it but because of our new laws all we could only ask them nicely who did it. As they laugh and spit in our faces.
    No, you are totally wrong....we can still do plenty to make them talk.....we can make them sit in hard chairs with no cushions for long periods of time (with regular sleep, meal, and bathroom breaks every 90 minutes of course)......we can stare at them with a mean snarl and make them talk if they blink first........Maybe we are allowed to play "The Girl From Ipanima" over and over again, but I would have to check with my lawyer first to see if that would still be too harsh even at an elevator music volume level. If so I am sure that should get anyone to talk about where they planted the next nuke in another city.
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    I see you watched the news about "waterboarding".
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    I see rule by instilling fear is working well here.

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    da,

    no need to for you to fear. I read your not afraid of anything.

    well maybe a donkey
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    "a donkey"?

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    How about answering the original question without blasting any of the current players? I would love to hear what YOU would do in the propsed scenario.

    Frankly I don't know what I would do. I guess that's why I have time to post in threads like this (as do you).
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