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    Why do you call it sexual freedom when your active participation requires pills, patches, or other paraphranelia (inserted into you or vice versa) whose sole purpose is to prevent the outcomes inherent to the Activity?

    Just a thought.
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    are you refering to contraceptives?

    If so then it is because it frees you from unwanted pregnacies and/or STDs.
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    Is this a trick question?

    Without these "paraphranelia" one is restricted in sexual activity, unless one is willing to have innumerable number of children or diseases.

    Thus, if one is unwilling to have either of the above (innumerable number of children or diseases), then the paraphranelia frees you from these restrictions.
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    The freedom is in the participation in the activity rather than the outcome which you call inherent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MVT
    The freedom is in the participation in the activity rather than the outcome which you call inherent.
    What he said.

    Surur
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    Any "freedom" requires effort. That's why we pay journalists for exercising the "freedom" of the press.
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    I should also say that all freedoms require responsibility, both to oneself and to the greater community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRamsauer
    I should also say that all freedoms require responsibility, both to oneself and to the greater community.
    party pooper

    But seriously, you are totally right, any liberties come with responsibilities, something a lot of people seem to 'forget'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shopharim
    Why do you call it sexual freedom when your active participation requires pills, patches, or other paraphranelia (inserted into you or vice versa) whose sole purpose is to prevent the outcomes inherent to the Activity?

    Just a thought.
    The act is pleasurable due to millions of years of evolution making procreation something that's likey to happen.

    The Pill created "sexual freedom" by freeing women from the burden of pregancy as a result of enjoying their sexual identity. It's a matter of controlling nature instead of letting nature control you.

    Odd question though.
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    It's called sexual freedom because it means more free sex. That's the ironic part of the feminist movement: it purported to sexually empower women but what that equated to was giving men greater access to sexually active women. Abortions rights purported to give women greater power of their bodies but what that equated to was giving men more access to sex without consequences.

    It seems to me that if the message really is "My body, my choice" then the focus would be teaching women that sexual empowerment means the power and responsibility to say "no".
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    Quote Originally Posted by shopharim
    Why do you call it sexual freedom when your active participation requires pills, patches, or other paraphranelia (inserted into you or vice versa) whose sole purpose is to prevent the outcomes inherent to the Activity?
    (I highlighted the terms I am not sure about.)
    1. Does sexual freedom require the use of.. paraphernalia...? Perhaps it is suggested instead of required?
    2. What are you suggesting the outcomes of sexual freedom be, or should be?
    3. Perhaps the premise that sexual freedom and paraphernalia intertwined is a bit of a stretch, and paraphernalia is more about safety than freedom? (I'd argue that the AIDS scare discouraged people from having {expressing} "free" sex more so than those paraphernalia encouraged it.)
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    lighten up big boy...each to their own and all that...I can see this building up to one of those "God says in the Bible..." blah blah blah threads
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    Quote Originally Posted by murrayalex
    I can see this building up to one of those "God says in the Bible..." blah blah blah threads
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    Quote Originally Posted by murrayalex
    "God says in the Bible..." blah blah blah threads
    Was paraphernalia mentioned there?
    But hey, my gods favor the sexual revolution!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoovs
    It's called sexual freedom because it means more free sex. That's the ironic part of the feminist movement: it purported to sexually empower women but what that equated to was giving men greater access to sexually active women. Abortions rights purported to give women greater power of their bodies but what that equated to was giving men more access to sex without consequences.

    It seems to me that if the message really is "My body, my choice" then the focus would be teaching women that sexual empowerment means the power and responsibility to say "no".
    Why would women want to say No in the first place? You seem to be implying women must not enjoy sex, and are desperately looking for excuses, and the "sexual revolution" took away 2 of their important ones. Next you will say aspirin took away their ability to say they have a headache.

    If a man was willing to force sex on an unwilling wman he probably does not care very much about her getting pregnant either.

    If women lack in assertiveness that is a seperate problem from them being free to engage in sex without the specific, but very major, consequence of having a baby.

    Surur

    PS: About religion, the way Shopharim introduced the topic makes me think it was used as a talking point at a sermon he just attended.
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    One only need look at third world societies to witness the glory and sanctity of sexual "slavery".
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    Quote Originally Posted by surur
    Why would women want to say No in the first place? You seem to be implying women must not enjoy sex, and are desperately looking for excuses, and the "sexual revolution" took away 2 of their important ones. Next you will say aspirin took away their ability to say they have a headache.
    I never said or even implied such a thing. But as with every other freedom this too comes with responsibility. True empowerment means helping people to be prepared for the responsiblity that comes with the power.

    Quote Originally Posted by surur
    If a man was willing to force sex on an unwilling wman he probably does not care very much about her getting pregnant either.
    That sort of ignores all of the little subtleties of human sexuality. Its rarely so black and white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoovs
    That sort of ignores all of the little subtleties of human sexuality. Its rarely so black and white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoovs
    It's called sexual freedom because it means more free sex. That's the ironic part of the feminist movement: it purported to sexually empower women but what that equated to was giving men greater access to sexually active women. Abortions rights purported to give women greater power of their bodies but what that equated to was giving men more access to sex without consequences.

    It seems to me that if the message really is "My body, my choice" then the focus would be teaching women that sexual empowerment means the power and responsibility to say "no".
    Uh, wow.

    Equating abortion rights with giving men more access to sex is just wrong. It also seems to imply that women aren't sexual beings in their own right - simply vessels for bearing children.

    A woman's (or man's for that matter) body is her own. They are automatically empowered. They don't need someone's "approval".

    And, they do not have a "responsibility" to say "no". They have the right to say "no" and their partner has the responsibility to respect that answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bheuss
    Uh, wow.

    Equating abortion rights with giving men more access to sex is just wrong.
    How so?

    Quote Originally Posted by bheuss
    It also seems to imply that women aren't sexual beings in their own right - simply vessels for bearing children.
    Again, How so?

    Quote Originally Posted by bheuss
    A woman's (or man's for that matter) body is her own. They are automatically empowered. They don't need someone's "approval".

    And, they do not have a "responsibility" to say "no". They have the right to say "no" and their partner has the responsibility to respect that answer.
    Actually, if they don't have the ability to deal with the consequences then they do have the responsibility to say no.
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