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    Welp, time to upgrade the locks to card access?


    Source: MSNBC

    Beware the 'Bump' Key
    As lockpicking gains traction as a hobby, a surprisingly easy new technique has been circulating online and among hackers.

    WEB EXCLUSIVE
    By Brian Braiker
    Newsweek
    Updated: 2:43 p.m. ET Aug 5, 2006
    Aug. 2, 2006 - How many locks figure prominently in your daily routine? Maybe one or two to get you into your house or apartment? One for your office, your car and your mailbox? Once you turn the key, chances are you feel pretty secure. That's what locks do, after all, they keep things shut; they keep you protected. How naive.

    A large majority of locks that open with a key, called pin tumbler locks, have structural weaknesses built into them that can be exploited with picks and practice. But a relatively new lockpicking technique known as "bumping" takes advantage of that weakness and requires no real understanding of how locks work. "You don't need expensive tools or anything," says encryption expert Barry Wels. "Any 15-year-old who's motivated can learn how to do it in 15 minutes on the Internet."

    -snip-

    And few were as sobering. The bulk of the talkówhich Wels cohosted with Marc Tobias, a lawyer, technical-fraud expert and authorówas devoted to bumping. They explained how most locks can be bumped open with any key that fits that lock, but does not open it. If, for example, you live in an apartment complex, chances are your key will fit into (but not open) the doors to other units in your building. Similarly, if you open your mailbox with a key, your key will probably fit into other mailboxes not just in your building but on your blockóeven though postal locks are uniquely designed and protected under federal law. Wels and Tobias demonstrated that by modifying the key, that key could be used as a universal "bump key" for any lock it will fit into. To say nothing of breaking and entering, "this was made for identity theft," explains Tobias. "The U.S. Postal Service's worst nightmare is Ted Kaczynski with a bump key."
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    I just watched the video.....Pretty scary...I have not heard of this before....is it really for real? Do you have the Newsweek source?
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    Ok, that is a bit scary. I need to try this to see how easy it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal
    I just watched the video.....Pretty scary...I have not heard of this before....is it really for real? Do you have the Newsweek source?
    Very scary indeed. I fixed the link for you and others.
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    Which is why I use keypad and RFID locks


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    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal
    I just watched the video.....Pretty scary...I have not heard of this before....is it really for real? Do you have the Newsweek source?
    This 'Nova' show is a very trustworthy show on the dutch equivalent of the BBC, I'm afraid it is true..

    http://www.toool.nl/bumping.pdf
    One of the guys who wrote that doc is Rop Gonggrijp who is a famous white hat hacker in the old dutch hacking scene..
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rop_Gonggrijp

    p.s. just discovered that was an item from may 2005 and I haven't heard about an increase in burglaries in Holland so don't worry too much about it..
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    I love watching the internets. I'd never heard of this either. The it hit one of my newsfeeds early yesterday morning. Suddenly I can't spit without it landing on a story about bump keys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by septimus
    I love watching the internets. .
    Internets? I must be missing out on something, I only have access to one internet
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    This sort of thing has been arounf for a while.

    If someone wants to get in, they will get in.

    Now, if they end up on the wrong end of a shotgun, that's just too bad.

    Assume you had no locks on your doors, and then think about your security....two words: lock and load.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikec
    This sort of thing has been arounf for a while.

    If someone wants to get in, they will get in.

    Now, if they end up on the wrong end of a shotgun, that's just too bad.

    Assume you had no locks on your doors, and then think about your security....two words: lock and load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT
    Internets? I must be missing out on something, I only have access to one internet
    Internets, is a Bushism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aprasad
    It's a collection of tubes .....
    It's not a truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aprasad
    It's a collection of tubes .....

    I remember that show! Poker chips clog the tube, but horses are okay because they can run!


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    Quote Originally Posted by FrozenCode
    I remember that show! Poker chips clog the tube, but horses are okay because they can run!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uuJh4bv-fg
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    daThomas,

    You think I'm crazy?

    Guess you are fortunate enough to live in the land of no crime and violence.

    Better safe than sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    Welp, time to upgrade the locks to card access?



    I saw this on engadet before. It was pretty cool. There is no security now anywhere. Not in your home or on the Internet. Card access. Probably a better idea. And a rottweiler at home too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas
    Ok, that is a bit scary. I need to try this to see how easy it is.
    Tell us your results later....
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