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    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    ...By, the way did you see my request in the 'Treocentral.com' forum?
    I've put it before the mods.
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    You can't have a prolonged occupation, the World won't stand for that. Lebanon is a sovereign state, you can't go patrol their waters. I think what you are suggesting will happen with an international force along the borders, ports and airports.

    Regarding terrorists/civilians. You kill terrorists whether they are in an open field or next to a missile on top of an apartment building.

    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    I am sure Israel's navy can inspect ships coming in. Just like we do in Iraq. I would also belive those planes would have to land somewhere, be there, inspect. Israel obvisously has an Air Force.

    I think what I am advocating is a limited occupation. Just all the way along the border.

    Who are the terrorists, and the civilians?
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    Their missiles are not very accurate at all. That is the difference between terrorists and Israel in this war. Terrorists fire rockets towards civilian cities not knowing who they will kill. Israel drops leaflets for civilians to leave so they can blow up the apt bldg terrorists are firing missiles from.

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    How accurate are they?
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    #424  
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    I've put it before the mods.
    Thanks, but Septimus is denying that request so far.
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    #425  
    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    Tom, that does address my question to you. How accurate are these weapons of hezbollah?
    When fired into cities, they are more than accurate enough to kill.



    Quote Originally Posted by theBlaze74
    intersting. All my recent posts, were copy pasted from this thread.
    So copying answers to a different question, as answers to another question proves what?
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    #426  
    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    You can't have a prolonged occupation, the World won't stand for that. Lebanon is a sovereign state, you can't go patrol their waters. I think what you are suggesting will happen with an international force along the borders, ports and airports.

    Regarding terrorists/civilians. You kill terrorists whether they are in an open field or next to a missile on top of an apartment building.
    There will be a transition to a NATO peacekeeping force. But, the ground work would be laid by Israel sealing the border. A commando force would work just as well in taking out missile positions, yet they would not have to blow up the whole building, w/ civilians inside it.
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    #427  
    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    Their missiles are not very accurate at all. That is the difference between terrorists and Israel in this war. Terrorists fire rockets towards civilian cities not knowing who they will kill.
    That is my point to Tom, they would be all but useless on a battlefield.
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    #428  
    Quote Originally Posted by TomUps
    When fired into cities, they are more than accurate enough to kill.
    I would find a new angle. I was referring to how usefull they would be, having to be aimed.
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    #429  
    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    ] Israel drops leaflets for civilians to leave so they can blow up the apt bldg terrorists are firing missiles from.
    Are you saying they leaflet every building before they bomb it?
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    You need to put USA in Israel's shoes. Do you really think we would do the same. No way. Why would we put our soldiers in danger of being killed. We would soften things up through aerial assaults. Don't forget who attacked who first. Hezbollah provoked Israeli. They thought and even stated it would ease up on the Gaza offense and would allow thousands of Palestians to be released from jail. If a crazed group from Mexico, Cuba or Canada did this to the USA we would give the respective country about 12 hours to respond or we would take care of the situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    There will be a transition to a NATO peacekeeping force. But, the ground work would be laid by Israel sealing the border. A commando force would work just as well, yet they would not have to blow up the whole building, w/ civilians inside it.
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    #431  
    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    I would find a new angle. I was referring to how usefull they would be, having to be aimed.
    Probably not very, but Im not following you I think. Hezbollah is never going to go straight up against the Israeli army on an open battlefield. There going to keep fireing away though at Israeli cities. How do you stop that?

    Also, what do you do about Lebanons huge border with Syria? How do you ensure no weapons are flowing in?
  12. #432  
    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    Are you saying they leaflet every building before they bomb it?
    Not sure. To drop even one leaflet during a war is an amazing thing to do. Consider this, you think the USA should have dropped some leaflets on Zarqawi's hideout? After all there was civilians killed there.
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    Agreed. They are using these to kill predominantly or exclusively civilians.

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    That is my point to Tom, they would be all but useless on a battlefield.
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    #434  
    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    Agreed. They are using these to kill predominantly or exclusively civilians.
    I don't thnk they care either way.
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    #436  
    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    You need to put USA in Israel's shoes. Do you really think we would do the same. No way. Why would we put our soldiers in danger of being killed. We would soften things up through aerial assaults. Don't forget who attacked who first. Hezbollah provoked Israeli. They thought and even stated it would ease up on the Gaza offense and would allow thousands of Palestians to be released from jail. If a crazed group from Mexico, Cuba or Canada did this to the USA we would give the respective country about 12 hours to respond or we would take care of the situation.
    But, ATM, that would be the whole jist of putting a force on the ground. Hezbollah would be forced w/ 2 options, and 2 options only, 1) Do nothing and have their supply line servered, or 2) Come out of the major civilian areas to try and stop their supply line from being severed. We would hope they would choose the latter. I can guarantee if they went the later route it would be like Poland's cavalry going against tanks.
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    No they don't care if they take any human life, regardless of sex, age, civilian status. This is why the US condones any talk of a cease fire before changes are made.

    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    I don't thnk they care either way.
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    This thread is going fast and furious. Please refrain from baiting each other or responding to bait.
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    #439  
    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    Not sure. To drop even one leaflet during a war is an amazing thing to do. Consider this, you think the USA should have dropped some leaflets on Zarqawi's hideout? After all there was civilians killed there.
    I don't think they do leaflet every building. What I have learned about these Kaytusha rockets, is that they only take a few minutes to setup. So dropping leaflets on them would give them to pack up and move. Hence the reason I suggested a commando force.
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    #440  
    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    I don't thnk they care either way.
    The problem with any cease-fire without a permanent plan is that Hezbollah will use that cease fire to rearm and re-fortify. A mulitnational force will only work if this force is willing to fire back when Hezbollah fires at them. Im not sure Hezbollah will accept any foriegn forces in Lebanon.

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