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    Since the last thread got closed. I thought I would start a new one. So for my first post in "Did Bush Lie?? You decide!" Part II, I give you the oath GWB took when coming into office.

    Here is Bush's oath at swearing in.

    "I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will, to the best of my ability, Preserve, Protect, and Defend the Constitution of the United States."

    Discuss.
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    Of Course!! I mean, we have so many examples of it, it is no longer a question, it's now a stupid debate about whether or not we should hold people accountable for their words when they're not legally bound to tell the truth.

    This is about lies from the White House..but is funny.. from David Letterman, you guys have to see this:



    The response from the White House:

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    Quote Originally Posted by g-funkster
    Of Course!! I mean, we have so many examples of it, it is no longer a question, it's now a stupid debate about whether or not we should hold people accountable for their words when they're not legally bound to tell the truth.

    This is about lies from the White House..but is funny.. from David Letterman, you guys have to see this:



    The response from the White House:

    Wow! Wholly Spin, only a Texas tornado could produce that much spin.
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    Nope, thats impossible. George Bush has never told a lie ever.

    By the way, that was funny, it took a while to watch, but the payoff is great.
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    While Letterman is convincing, I'm not convinced. That kid makes all sorts of movements and the people next to him never even look at him? Doubtful, I think it was added. And, Bush didn't lie. Another yawner here at OT.

    Quote Originally Posted by g-funkster
    Of Course!! I mean, we have so many examples of it, it is no longer a question, it's now a stupid debate about whether or not we should hold people accountable for their words when they're not legally bound to tell the truth.

    This is about lies from the White House..but is funny.. from David Letterman, you guys have to see this:



    The response from the White House:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    While Letterman is convincing, I'm not convinced. That kid makes all sorts of movements and the people next to him never even look at him? Doubtful, I think it was added. And, Bush didn't lie. Another yawner here at OT.
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    Amazing. Just amazing. Chant a mantra long enough and people will assume it must be truth....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    While Letterman is convincing, I'm not convinced. That kid makes all sorts of movements and the people next to him never even look at him? Doubtful, I think it was added. And, Bush didn't lie. Another yawner here at OT.
    You're right, I should never equate the White House with Bush
    Quote Originally Posted by Micael
    Amazing. Just amazing. Chant a mantra long enough and people will assume it must be truth....
    The video is REAL, CNN had to apologize to Dave:

    Kagan (later): "So Dave, we apologize for the error. I hope that makes things good with us. If you need me to come up and do a stupid human trick or a stupid pet trick, I have that, too. But hopefully we're just okay. We apologize."

    In fact, CNN suddenly also says the White House didn't contact them...really... Letterman's not buying that one either: "This whole thing just smells. Doesn't it smell a little bit?"

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    A few "universal truths" come to mind:
    Kids have short attention spans.
    Politicians are not usually very exciting.
    Never get into an argument with a comedian -- even if you're right, you will lose.
    Never get into an argument with someone with their own radio/tv show -- even if you're right, you will lose.
    If something happens to make you look bad, the only thing you can do to make it look worse, is claim it didn't happen and that someone is setting you up.
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    So the White House has CNN in their backpocket. Riggghhtt! That video of the boy was conveniently 'placed'.

    Quote Originally Posted by g-funkster
    In fact, CNN suddenly also says the White House didn't contact them...really... Letterman's not buying that one either: "This whole thing just smells. Doesn't it smell a little bit?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    Here is Bush's oath at swearing in.

    "I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will, to the best of my ability, Preserve, Protect, and Defend the Constitution of the United States."
    Note that is says "to the best of his abilities...". In my view, Bush is on the safe side here. He acted to the best of his abilities, and after all, it is not his fault that he got elected. It's a question of misunderestimation, if you get the drift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    While Letterman is convincing, I'm not convinced. That kid makes all sorts of movements and the people next to him never even look at him? Doubtful, I think it was added. And, Bush didn't lie. Another yawner here at OT.
    Everytime I read it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    So the White House has CNN in their backpocket. Riggghhtt! That video of the boy was conveniently 'placed'.
    No, it just goes to bolster my theory of the media just being lazy, not biased. There are a few interviews of the boy and his father, who is:

    Quote Originally Posted by WaPo

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    .....Orange County, Fla., chairman and major Bush fundraiser Richard Crotty -- as a guest on tonight's CBS late-night show.
    explain if you could, why that boy wouldn't be there? As the speech in question occured in central Florida.
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    Well this is just evidence that Letterman is obviously a part of the conspiracy of the liberal left wing media elite to overthrow our leadership and spread their socialist, gay, anti-american agenda. I will be passing out literature after the speech. God bless the USA.
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    I guess I don't get it. This video is old news. What does that have to do with liberals' incessant, groundless claims of Bush lying?
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    Fine, let's get up to date:

    Republican Complains of Secrecy
    Bush administration intelligence efforts may have been kept from a congressional panel.

    By Jim Puzzanghera and T. Christian Miller, Times Staff Writers
    July 10, 2006

    WASHINGTON — A high-ranking Republican lashed out at President Bush on Sunday, suggesting that the White House may have broken the law by failing to inform Congress of a "major" intelligence program and other undercover activities.

    Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.), chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, complained that only after he had learned of several intelligence programs from a whistle-blower did he receive a briefing on them from the Bush administration.



    Perhaps our Congress will grow a backbone yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas
    Perhaps our Congress will grow a backbone yet.
    We can only both wish that were to happen. If there are no "checks", there can be no "balances."
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    Quote Originally Posted by heberman
    We can only both wish that were to happen. If there are no "checks", there can be no "balances."
    Hear, hear!
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas
    Fine, let's get up to date:

    Republican Complains of Secrecy
    Bush administration intelligence efforts may have been kept from a congressional panel.

    By Jim Puzzanghera and T. Christian Miller, Times Staff Writers
    July 10, 2006

    WASHINGTON — A high-ranking Republican lashed out at President Bush on Sunday, suggesting that the White House may have broken the law by failing to inform Congress of a "major" intelligence program and other undercover activities.

    Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.), chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, complained that only after he had learned of several intelligence programs from a whistle-blower did he receive a briefing on them from the Bush administration.


    Perhaps our Congress will grow a backbone yet.
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    May have, may have, may have. I am tired of hearing all the may haves in the media. I am sure that many will jump on the wagon and say see, he broke the law, he kept secrets, he lied. When the story is completed and it is found out that those who needed to know were informed the Bush Bashers will keep up the rhetoric of remember when he lied about the major intelligence program. But you gotta do what you gotta to do sell the paper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas
    Fine, let's get up to date:

    Republican Complains of Secrecy
    Bush administration intelligence efforts may have been kept from a congressional panel.

    By Jim Puzzanghera and T. Christian Miller, Times Staff Writers
    July 10, 2006

    WASHINGTON — A high-ranking Republican lashed out at President Bush on Sunday, suggesting that the White House may have broken the law by failing to inform Congress of a "major" intelligence program and other undercover activities.

    Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.), chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, complained that only after he had learned of several intelligence programs from a whistle-blower did he receive a briefing on them from the Bush administration.



    Perhaps our Congress will grow a backbone yet.
    Yeah, thanks LATimes. No bias there

    daThomas, I hope this doesn't come off condescending, but the Legislature and the Executive Branches have been wrestling for power since the beginning. Lert media mongers are quick to capture and exploit little back and forth quips like this.
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