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    RULES: In order to make sure this thread does not get closed, here are some basic rules. This thread is mostly a reference only thread, not a debate thread. This thread is about posting news and links about the latest release of newly translated docs or audio tapes that were captured after the fall of Saddam.

    WARNING: This thread will have lengthy posts that included detailed facts with an abundance of sources for further research. If are not interested, then skip it. Don't flame about the length, too fact based, or too many sources.

    POST: Over the last 6 months or so, a huge effort from several sources, including the gov but mostly from 3rd party public organizations, to translate docs and tapes that were captured after the fall of Saddam.

    All together there are 50,000 boxes of documents (which equals to hundreds of thousands of documents) and some 3,000 plus hours of audio tape captured in Iraq. These are documents from with in the internal workings of Saddam's Regime. Apparently most of the audio tapes are recorded meetings of Saddam with many of his aids, advisor's, officers, etc....

    None of these documents have been made public until now. The gov is leaving most of the tedious translation work for others to do and release. One of these such projects to do just that is The Saddam Dossier.

    A link to review any newly released documents: "Saddam Dossier" Archive: http://www.foxnews.com/column_archiv...76,146,00.html

    If you want to read the documents in full for yourself:

    Welcome to the Operation Iraqi Freedom Document Portal
    Link: http://70.168.46.200/
    The documents contained on this site were captured during Operation Iraqi Freedom and represent a dramatic departure from previous document release efforts which have historically taken place decades after the cessation of hostilities. Viewers are urged to carefully read the disclaimer above.

    The following is a sample of the types of documents, audio and video files available in the Portal. The overwhelming majority of these documents are not in English, although English translations (full or partial) are posted when available.
    Here is a summary and standards set for the Saddam Dossier project:

    The Saddam Dossier
    Was Saddam Hussein a security threat to the United States? Did the Iraqi dictator have connections to Al Qaeda or other terrorist ties? What happened to the weapons of mass destruction everyone believed were in his possession? Did Saddam move them? Did they ever exist?

    All of those questions have been dogging President George W. Bush and his administration since the start of the Iraq war. Politicians and respected U.S. military and intelligence officials have weighed in publicly on both sides of the debate, but until recently the general public has had little of the information necessary to make a fully informed decision on its own.

    But that is changing.

    The U.S. government seized thousands of classified Iraqi government papers when Saddam's regime was toppled, and Washington recently released a trove of these documents on the Pentagon's Foreign Military Studies Office Web site.

    The documents, many in Arabic and with no accompanying translation, provide multiple insights into events inside pre-war Iraq. The dossier, however, is huge and disorganized. Digging out its secrets is a laborious task — one that the U.S. government decided to leave to others.

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    Robison also served in Qatar as a contractor for the Defense Intelligence Agency, working as part of the CIA-directed Iraq Survey Group (ISG) that examined efforts by Saddam Hussein to build and hide weapons of mass destruction, among other objectives. (The ISG's conclusion: Saddam had substantial WMD capability, but destroyed or otherwise disposed of much of it, though he retained the capability of restoring much of it should sanctions against him be lifted.)

    Robison supervised a group of linguists to analyze, archive and exploit documents and materials of Saddam's regime. He has seen thousands of these documents and translations previously, having worked with them for a year in Iraq. He was involved with briefing his group's findings to senior U.S. military and political leaders. Robison was awarded for his efforts by the Iraq Survey Group as a media shift supervisor.

    With a small cadre of independent translators to support his efforts, Robison will now translate and analyze scores of the unexplored trove of documents from Saddam's regime in: The Saddam Dossier.

    In addition to translation, Robison will provide analysis based upon his work for the Iraq Survey Group and his military operations research experience. On occasion, he or a translator will remark in the translation itself for clarity, but will maintain the integrity of the document. All of their work will be linked online to the original Arabic texts, stored on the Foreign Military Studies Office Web site. Robison's analysis, however, is based on his own opinions.

    FULL STORY and additional links: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,199053,00.html


    The first 10 or so posts below are posts that I have made in other threads. Most of them are now closed so I wanted to bring them all together.



    IMPORTANT NOTE: Please note that at the moment nothing conclusive has resulted from any translated doc or audio tape. For example, nothing revealed so far by itself is a "smoking gun". But, collectively they do start to paint a picture against Saddam. But this can change as more documents are translated and released. When all 50,000 boxes of documents and 3,000 plus hours of audio tapes are translated we may find that all the accusations against Saddam & Iraq were correct. We may find they were not. Or anywhere in between. But until they are translated and reviewed, we will never know.
    Last edited by HobbesIsReal; 06/20/2006 at 03:59 PM.
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    EXCLUSIVE: The Secret Tapes -- Inside Saddam's Palace

    ABC News Obtains 12 Hours of Recordings of Saddam Hussein Meeting With Top Aides
    The tapes also reveal Iraq's persistent efforts to hide information about weapons of mass destruction programs from U.N. inspectors well into the 1990s. In one pivotal tape-recorded meeting, which occurred in late April or May of 1995, Saddam and his senior aides discuss the fact that U.N. inspectors had uncovered evidence of Iraq's biological weapons program — a program whose existence Iraq had previously denied.

    At one point Hussein Kamel, Saddam's son-in-law and the man who was in charge of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction efforts can be heard on the tapes, speaking openly about hiding information from the U.N.

    "We did not reveal all that we have," Kamel says in the meeting. "Not the type of weapons, not the volume of the materials we imported, not the volume of the production we told them about, not the volume of use. None of this was correct."

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    Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, says the tapes are authentic and show that "Saddam had a fixation on weapons of mass destruction and he had a fixation on hiding what he was doing from the U.N. inspectors." Hoeckstra says there are more than 35,000 boxes of such tapes and documents that the U.S. government has not analyzed nor made public that should also be translated and studied on an urgent basis.

    Charles Duelfer, who led the official U.S. search for weapons of mass destruction after the war, says the tapes show extensive deception but don't prove that weapons were still hidden in Iraq at the time of the U.S.-led war in 2003. "What they do is support the conclusion in the report, which we made in the last couple of years, that the regime had the intention of building and rebuilding weapons of mass destruction, when circumstances permitted."

    FULL STORY: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Nightline/...ory?id=1616996
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    Saddam talked of WMD attack in U.S.
    Tapes show him ‘almost obsessed’ with weapons

    Among the treasure trove of information captured after Saddam Hussein's fall were tape recordings of the Iraqi leader discussing weapons of mass destruction with top aides.

    Transcripts of Saddam's tapes reviewed by NBC News show him ruminating about future terror attacks in the United States using weapons of mass destruction.

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    An unidentified Saddam aide replies that biological weapons are easy to construct: “… any biologist can make it in water tank and kill 100,000 person … so you can’t accuse a country, one person can do it. One American person can do it in a house, next to the White House.”

    On another tape, Saddam says future terrorism will be with WMD. "It is possible in the future to see a booby trap and the explosion turns out to be nuclear, germ or chemical."

    U.S. intelligence analysts have confirmed to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence that Saddam’s voice on the audiotapes is authentic. The analysts believe most of the tapes were recorded in the ’90s, after the first Gulf War.

    “What the tapes show is that between the first gulf war and the second gulf war, Saddam Hussein had not lost his appetite for, or interest in, weapons of mass destruction,” says Gary Milhollin of the Wisconsin Project, an advocacy group working to slow the spread of weapons of mass destruction. “To the contrary, he was almost obsessed by them.’’

    Importantly, though, many U.S. intelligence experts say the 12 hours of tape does not solve the riddle of whether Iraq was hiding weapons of mass destruction before the 2003 U.S. invasion.

    “It certainly shows that he was trying to deceive the U.N., but it doesn't show that he actually had weapons in his possession at the time of the invasion,” says Bill Harlow, a former CIA spokesman and an NBC News

    In the transcripts, one of Saddam’s aides discusses filling missiles with germs. “Yes, the intention is that the missile will be filled with chemical or germ, and when it comes down it will cover a wider circle than the traditional missile,” the aide tells Saddam. Saddam replies: “That’s good, they are teaching us things that will be useful in the future.”

    Other aides seem to discuss hiding weapons from U.N. inspectors. “We have not told them the truth about the imported material,” one says. He adds, “Where was the nuclear material transported to? A number of them were transported out of Iraq.” He also says: “We will confess, but not to the biological program.”

    FULL STORY: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11373537/
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    "Osama bin Laden Contact With Iraq"
    March 23, 2006
    A newly released prewar Iraqi document indicates that an official representative of Saddam Hussein's government met with Osama bin Laden in Sudan on February 19, 1995, after receiving approval from Saddam Hussein. Bin Laden asked that Iraq broadcast the lectures of Suleiman al Ouda, a radical Saudi preacher, and suggested "carrying out joint operations against foreign forces" in Saudi Arabia. According to the document, Saddam's presidency was informed of the details of the meeting on March 4, 1995, and Saddam agreed to dedicate a program for them on the radio. The document states that further "development of the relationship and cooperation between the two parties to be left according to what's open [in the future] based on dialogue and agreement on other ways of cooperation." The Sudanese were informed about the agreement to dedicate the program on the radio.

    The report then states that "Saudi opposition figure" bin Laden had to leave Sudan in July 1996 after it was accused of harboring terrorists. It says information indicated he was in Afghanistan. "The relationship with him is still through the Sudanese. We're currently working on activating this relationship through a new channel in light of his current location," it states.

    (Editor's Note: This document is handwritten and has no official seal. Although contacts between bin Laden and the Iraqis have been reported in the 9/11 Commission report and elsewhere (e.g., the 9/11 report states "Bin Ladn himself met with a senior Iraqi intelligence officer in Khartoum in late 1994 or early 1995) this document indicates the contacts were approved personally by Saddam Hussein.

    It also indicates the discussions were substantive, in particular that bin Laden was proposing an operational relationship, and that the Iraqis were, at a minimum, interested in exploring a potential relationship and prepared to show good faith by broadcasting the speeches of al Ouda, the radical cleric who was also a bin Laden mentor.

    The document does not establish that the two parties did in fact enter into an operational relationship. Given that the document claims bin Laden was proposing to the Iraqis that they conduct "joint operations against foreign forces" in Saudi Arabia, it is worth noting that eight months after the meeting — on November 13, 1995 — terrorists attacked Saudi National Guard Headquarters in Riyadh, killing 5 U.S. military advisers. The militants later confessed on Saudi TV to having been trained by Osama bin Laden.)


    FULL STORY: http://abcnews.go.com/International/...1734490&page=1
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    Saddam, Al Qaeda Did Collaborate, Documents Show
    March 24, 2006
    A former Democratic senator and 9/11 commissioner says a recently declassified Iraqi account of a 1995 meeting between Osama bin Laden and a senior Iraqi envoy presents a "significant set of facts," and shows a more detailed collaboration between Iraq and Al Qaeda.

    In an interview yesterday, the current president of the New School University, Bob Kerrey, was careful to say that new documents translated last night by ABC News did not prove Saddam Hussein played a role in any way in plotting the attacks of September 11, 2001.

    Nonetheless, the former senator from Nebraska said that the new document shows that "Saddam was a significant enemy of the United States." Mr. Kerrey said he believed America's understanding of the deposed tyrant's relationship with Al Qaeda would become much deeper as more captured Iraqi documents and audiotapes are disclosed.

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    The new documents suggest that the 9/11 commission's final conclusion in 2004, that there were no "operational" ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda, may need to be reexamined in light of the recently captured documents.

    While the commission detailed some contacts between Iraq and Al Qaeda in the 1990s, in Sudan and Afghanistan, the newly declassified Iraqi documents provide more detail than the commission disclosed in its final conclusions. For example, the fact that Saddam broadcast the ser mons of al-Ouda at bin Laden's request was previously unknown, as was a conversation about possible collaboration on attacks against Saudi Arabia.

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    "This is a very significant set of facts," former 9/11 commissioner, Mr. Kerry said yesterday. "I personally and strongly believe you don't have to prove that Iraq was collaborating against Osama bin Laden on the September 11 attacks to prove he was an enemy and that he would collaborate with people who would do our country harm. This presents facts should not be used to tie Saddam to attacks on September 11. It does tie him into a circle that meant to damage the United States."

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    The directorate of national intelligence with the U.S. Army foreign military studies office has begun to make over 50,000 boxes of documents and some 3,000 hours of audio tape captured in Iraq available on the Web at http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm.

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    A reporter for the Weekly Standard, Steven Hayes, yesterday said he thought the memorandum of the 1995 meeting demolishes the view of some terrorism experts that bin Laden and Saddam were incapable of cooperating for ideological and doctrinal reasons.

    "Clearly from this document bin Laden was willing to work with Saddam to achieve his ends, and clearly from this document Saddam did not immediately reject the idea of working with bin Laden," Mr. Hayes said. "It is possible that documents will emerge later that suggest skepticism on the part of Iraqis to working with bin Laden, but this makes clear that there was a relationship."

    Mr. Hayes's story this week makes the case that the Iraqi embassy in Manila was funding and keeping close tabs on the Al Qaeda affiliate in the Philippines, Abu Sayyaf.

    FULL STORY: http://www.nysun.com/article/29746?page_no=2

    http://www.sltrib.com/nationworld/ci_3634481
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    More Damning Documents On Saddam
    4/7/2006
    The latest in a stream of eye-opening Iraqi documents shows Saddam Hussein's regime was planning suicide attacks on U.S. interests six months before 9-11.

    Last month the Pentagon began releasing records captured during Operation Iraqi Freedom. Among the documents is a letter dated March 11, 2001, written by Abdel Magid Hammod Ali, one of Saddam's air force generals.

    According to an unofficial translation, Page 6 of the letter asks for "the names of those who desire to volunteer for suicide mission to liberate Palestine and to strike American interests."

    Assuming the document's accuracy, this shows that Saddam's regime was not only providing aid and support for terrorist organizations of other countries. It was also planning its own bombings directed at U.S. facilities and personnel.


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    Though little noticed by the press, during a July 2004 visit to Kazakhstan the Russian president said that between 9-11 and the U.S. invasion of Iraq, "Russian special services and Russian intelligence several times received . . . information that official organs of Saddam's regime were preparing terrorist acts on the territory of the U.S. and beyond its borders, at U.S. military and civilian locations."

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    Equally embarrassing to our spies is another newly released document from 1999 detailing plans for a "Blessed July" operation.

    According to the English translation on the Foreign Military Studies Office's Joint Reserve Intelligence Center Web site, Saddam's older son Uday ordered 50 members of the fanatical "Fedayeen Saddam" group to stage bombings and assassinations in Iraq and Europe — including London, where 10 people were assigned.

    ...Looking at the "Blessed July" document, Foreign Affairs notes this "regime-directed wave of 'martyrdom' operations against targets in the West (was) well under way at the time of the coalition invasion."

    The Pentagon has obviously been sitting on a treasure trove of paper incriminations against Saddam's regime. So far, just a minuscule amount of the more than 3,000 hours of tape recordings of Saddam and 48,000 boxes of intelligence documents has been translated and deciphered.

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    Summary of what has been discovered so far:
    • "July 2004 visit to Kazakhstan the Russian president said that between 9-11 and the U.S. invasion of Iraq, "Russian special services and Russian intelligence several times received . . . information that official organs of Saddam's regime were preparing terrorist acts on the territory of the U.S. and beyond its borders, at U.S. military and civilian locations."
    • Saddam's older son Uday ordered 50 members of the fanatical "Fedayeen Saddam" group to stage bombings and assassinations in Iraq and Europe — including London, where 10 people were assigned. Of this document an upcoming issue of Foreign Affairs Magazine notes, "regime-directed wave of 'martyrdom' operations against targets in the West (was) well under way at the time of the coalition invasion."
    • Saddam is heard on a 1997 tape predicting terrorism would soon be coming to the U.S., while his son-in-law — who was in charge of Saddam's weapons of mass destruction — gloats about lying to U.N. weapons inspectors to hide the extent of Iraq's WMD program.
    • Saddam, in a tape made in 2000, talks with Iraqi scientists about his plans to build a nuclear device. He discusses Iraq's plasma separation program — an advanced uranium-enrichment technique completely missed by U.N. inspectors.
    • An Iraqi intelligence document, released just two weeks ago, describes a February 1995 meeting between Saddam's spies and Osama bin Laden. During that meeting, bin Laden offered to conduct "joint operations" with Iraq. Saddam subsequently ordered his aides to "develop the relationship" with the al-Qaida leader.
    • A fax, sent on June 6, 2001, shows conclusively that Saddam's government provided financial aid to Abu Sayyaf guerrillas in the Philippines. Abu Sayyaf is an al-Qaida offshoot co-founded by bin Laden's brother-in-law.


    http://www.investors.com/editorial/I...issue=20060407
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    Here is the first Saddam Dossier they have released:

    Terror Links to Saddam's Inner Circle
    Monday, June 12, 2006
    What was the relationship between Saddam Hussein's inner circle and Islamic terrorists? A newly released document appears to provide evidence that in 1999 the Taliban welcomed "Islamic relations with Iraq" to mediate among the Taliban, the Northern Alliance and Russia, and that the Taliban invited Iraqi officials to Afghanistan.

    The document, captured in Iraq but never before seen by the public, offers glimmers of new insight at the Pentagon's Foreign Military Studies Office Web site. The FMSO is a research and analysis center under the U.S. Army's Training and Doctrine Command.

    This particular document mentions two men with similar names, each with ties to Pakistani religious schools known as madrassas, Jihad training camps, the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

    This original translation .....comes from a notebook kept by an Iraqi intelligence agent. It provides evidence of a cooperative, operational relationship agreed to at the highest levels of the Iraqi government and the Taliban. The notebook is lengthy.....It deals extensively with meetings between Maulana Fazlur Rahman, an Al Qaeda/Taliban supporter, and Taha Yassin Ramadan, the former vice president of Iraq, and other unnamed Iraqi officials.

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    This document appears to provide evidence that in 1999 the Taliban welcomed "Islamic relations with Iraq" to mediate between the Taliban, the Northern Alliance and Russia. It seems to provide evidence that the Taliban invited Iraqi officials to Afghanistan. According to this notebook, the Taliban did this via Maulana Fazlur Rahman. The notebook later mentions that another man, Fazlur Rahman Khalil, was visiting Iraq as well, although no transcript of that meeting is provided.

    There is another document in the Saddam archive that mentions the relationship of Fazlur Rahman to the Taliban and Saddam. It was captured in Afghanistan and used by the U.S. Army in a report about Al Qaeda. The document is posted under the identifying Harmony number AFGP-2002-601693 at the West Point Combating Terrorism Center ( http://www.ctc.usma.edu/aq/AFGP-2002-601693-Trans.pdf ). The posted translation is described as a July 26, 2002 four-page typed letter from Abu Mus'ab to Abu Mohammed (apparently Al Qaeda or Taliban operatives) in reply to his inquiry about the status of jihad, or holy war, in Afghanistan:

    After my release I found that people came from the Sudan and everywhere, and began fighting alongside the Taliban movement, which for Pakistan was a substitute for Hikmatyar. Everyone, even children in the streets knew that they were created and controlled by Pakistan. Their leader Fadhlurahman is a friend of Banazeer, Saddam and Qaddafi. They comprise of the veteran sheikhs (religious scholars) from the schools of Mujaddidi and Mohammed Nabi such as Sheikh Mohammed ‘Omar the movement leader

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    So what is the relationship between Maulana Fazlur Rahman and the Taliban and Al Qaeda? Rahman often is described in news articles as the father or godfather of the Taliban. It seems clear that Rahman was close to Al Qaeda through his friend Mullah Omar, who sheltered Usama bin Laden prior to the allied invasion of Afghanistan.

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    As mentioned previously, the notebooks mentions Fazlur Rahman Khalil as a visitor to Baghdad. A good description of Fazlur Rahman Khalil can be found at the Terrorism Knowledge Base ( http://www.tkb.org/KeyLeader.jsp?memID=66 ).

    Fazlur Rehman Khalil, former leader of Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM), is one of the most important and prominent terrorists in Pakistan. A student of the radical Binori madrassah in Karachi, Khalil has strong ties to al-Qaeda and the Taliban. He is one of five signatories of Usama bin Laden's 1998 fatwa which attempted to induce Muslims worldwide to kill Americans whenever the opportunity arose. He is a mentor to many members of the Taliban. This mentorship is the result of the extensive network of Al Qaeda-associated training camps which he has established throughout Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Kashmir.

    FULL STORY: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,199052,00.html
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    Here is a follow up to the documents released that I noted above. Again, I note that this is not currently conclusive, but just one newly release doc from Saddam's Regime from several hundred thousand of documents yet to be translated, but very noteworthy none the less.

    Documents Support Saddam-Taliban Connection
    Friday, June 16, 2006
    Tahir Jalil Habbush al Tikriti came to public attention in December, 2003 when the Telegraph UK reported Terrorist Behind September 11th Strike was Trained by Saddam ( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...14/wterr14.xml ).

    Details of Atta's visit to the Iraqi capital in the summer of 2001, just weeks before he launched the most devastating terrorist attack in U.S. history, are contained in a top secret memo written to Saddam Hussein, the then Iraqi president, by Tahir Jalil Habbush al-Tikriti, the former head of the Iraqi Intelligence Service.

    The handwritten memo, a copy of which has been obtained exclusively by the Telegraph, is dated July 1, 2001 and provides a short resume of a three-day "work programme" Atta had undertaken at Abu Nidal's base in Baghdad.

    In the memo, Habbush reports that Atta "displayed extraordinary effort" and demonstrated his ability to lead the team that would be "responsible for attacking the targets that we have agreed to destroy".

    Atta, of course, led the 9/11 attacks. It is interesting to note in this new context of an intelligence based relationship between the Taliban and Saddam regime, orchestrated by Pakistani contacts, specifically Maulana Rahman, that the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks was Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, a Pakistani passport holder arrested in Pakistan in 2003. It also is worth noting that Mustapha Ahmed al-Hawsawi, who officials say sent cash to lead 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta, also was arrested in Pakistan with Khalid. Both of these men were arrested in the home of or a member of Pakistan's largest religious political party, Jamaat Islami, of which Maulana Fazlur Rahman is a leader. A further translation from this notebook indicates that in another meeting, again believed to be with the Maulana, joint military training between the Taliban and the Iraqi military is proposed.

    Due to the information provided in this notebook, we see a possible secret, intelligence based, operational relationship between the Taliban and the Saddam regime via Maulana Fazlur Rahman. We can discern that the Maulana most likely is meeting with Habbush al Tikriti, implicated in documents published by the Telegraph newspaper in reference to the training of Atta in Iraq. We also have an annotation that indicates Pakistani Fazlur Rahman Khalil, a known bin Laden associate, Al Qaeda terrorist and a 1998 fatwa co-signatory, also was traveling to Iraq in 1999. A further translation from this notebook indicates that in another meeting, again with the Maulana, the Taliban proposes joint military training with the Iraqi military.

    FULL STORY HERE
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    if anyone reads down this far ... just post the word macaroni so we know you made it
  10.    #10  
    Blaze please read the warning in the first post:
    Quote Originally Posted by Original Post by HobbesIsReal
    This post will have lengthy posts that included detailed facts with an abundance of sources for further research. If are not interested, then skip it. Don't flame about the length, too fact based, or too many sources.
    Please politely abide by the rules of this thread. As stated, this is a reference thread.
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    lol, now you did it .. my coworkers think i am crazy laffing alone in my office
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    The first batch of captured documents from pre-war Iraq and Afghanistan are now available online.

    Materials made public in the first wave of the release will be those least likely to raise objections from the intelligence community and U.S. allies. Negroponte plans to include many of the documents labeled "NIV"--for No Intelligence Value--in this first group of materials.

    But Pete Hoekstra (R-Mich.), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, insists that documents relevant to the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003 will be released in short order. "There may be many documents that relate to their WMD programs. Those should be released," says Hoekstra. "Same thing with links to terrorism."

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    It is hard to say what, exactly, to expect with the coming release of documents [and 3,000 hours of audio tape after this initial release today]. There will be documents that lend support to those who opposed the war in Iraq and, to be sure, documents that bolster the case for those who supported the war.

    Importantly, after years of questions about the threat from the Iraqi regime, we will now be able to get some answers.

    * How close were the French and the Russians to the former Iraqi regime?
    * What kind of information was being passed to the Iraqis on the eve of war in early 2003?
    * What is the real story of Iraq's WMD programs?
    * Why did Saddam's military leaders and scientists fabricate their reports on the progress of those programs?
    * Which terrorist groups had an active presence in Baghdad? * How many Palestinian Liberation Front jihadists did the Iraqi regime train each year?
    * How effective was Saddam Hussein in deceiving UN inspectors throughout the 1990s?
    * What did Saddam Hussein privately tell Yasser Arafat when the Palestinian leader came to Baghdad?
    * And what were the Western targets of the "Blessed July" martyrdom operation that was being planned as U.S. troops crossed into Iraq in March 2003?

    FULL STORY: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...1/975brvct.asp
  13.    #13  
    Interesting documents released March 16th with still hundreds of thousands of pages to come shortly in other releases. There is also 3,000 hours of audio tape of Saddam and his regime that are still be prepared for release.

    Some information is only interesting, other seems on noteworthy by itself but valuable when looked at with all other evidence at the time, while others like with France seem pretty damning in relationship to everything else that was happening at the same time:

    New Documents from Saddam Hussein's Archives Discuss Bin Laden, WMDs
    March 16, 2006 — Following are the ABC News Investigative Unit's summaries of four of the nine Iraqi documents from Saddam Hussein's government

    "Osama bin Laden and the Taliban"

    Document dated Sept. 15, 2001
    • That OBL and the Taliban are in contact with Iraq and that a group of Taliban and bin Laden group members visited Iraq.
    • That the U.S. has proof the Iraqi government and "bin Laden's group" agreed to cooperate to attack targets inside America.
    • That in case the Taliban and bin Laden's group turn out to be involved in "these destructive operations," the U.S. may strike Iraq and Afghanistan.
    • That the Afghani consul heard about the issue of Iraq's relationship with "bin Laden's group" while he was in Iran.
    (Editor's Note: The controversial claim that Osama bin Laden was cooperating with Saddam Hussein is an ongoing matter of intense debate..............)

    "Election Campaign Laws in France"

    Documents dated July-August 1999

    Correspondence regarding election campaigns in France. This includes a document from the Iraqi intelligence service classified as "secret," ordering the translation of important parts of a 1997 report about campaign financing laws in France............

    (Editor's Note: This is an intriguing document which suggests Saddam Hussein's regime had a strong interest in the mechanics and legalities of financial contributions to French politicians. Several former French politicians are implicated in receiving oil vouchers from Iraq under the U.N. Oil for Food program.)

    "Hiding Docs from the U.N. Team"

    Document dated March 23, 1997

    A letter from the Iraqi intelligence service to directors and managers advising them to follow certain procedures in case of a search by the U.N. team, including:
    • Removing correspondence with the atomic energy and military industry departments concerning the prohibited weapons (proposals, research, studies, catalogs, etc.).
    • Removing prohibited materials and equipment, including documents and catalogs and making sure to clear labs and storages of any traces of chemical or biological materials that were previously used or stored.
    (Editor's Note: This document is consistent with the Report of the Special Advisor to the Director of Central Intelligence, which described a pattern of deception and concealment on the part of Saddam Hussein's government towards the U.N. inspectors...............)

    "Al Qaeda Presence in Iraq"

    Document dated August 2002

    A number of correspondences to check rumors that some members of al Qaeda organization have entered Iraq. Three letters say this information cannot be confirmed. The letter on page seven, however, says that information coming from "a trustworthy source" indicates that subjects who are interested in dealing with al Qaeda are in Iraq and have several passports.

    The letter seems to be coming from or going to Trebil, a town on the Iraqi-Jordanian border. Follow up on the presence of those subjects is ordered, as well as comparison of their pictures with those of Jordanian subjects living in Iraq. (This may be referring to pictures of Abu Musaab al Zarqawi and another man on pages 4-6) The letter also says tourist areas, including hotels and rented apartments, should be searched.

    (Editor's note: This document indicates that the Iraqis were aware of and interested in reports that members of al Qaeda were present in Iraq in 2002. The document does not support allegations that Iraq was colluding with al Qaeda.)

    FULL STORY: http://abcnews.go.com/International/...1734490&page=1
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    "U.S. War Plan Leaked to Iraqis by Russian Ambassador"
    Two Iraqi documents from March 2003 — on the eve of the U.S.-led invasion — and addressed to the secretary of Saddam Hussein, describe details of a U.S. plan for war. According to the documents, the plan was disclosed to the Iraqis by the Russian ambassador.

    Document written sometime before March 5, 2003

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    (Editor's Note: The Russian ambassador in March 2003 was Vladimir Teterenko. Teterenko appears in documents released by the Volker Commission, which investigated the Oil for Food scandal, as receiving allocations of 3 million barrels of oil — worth roughly $1.5 million. )

    FULL STORY: http://abcnews.go.com/International/...1734490&page=1


    Russia spied for Saddam in war - Pentagon report
    Saturday March 25, 2006
    Russia funnelled intelligence on American troop movements in Iraq to Saddam Hussein during the early days of the war, according to documents contained in a Pentagon report released last night.
    Documents apparently from Saddam's regime, seized by the Americans, described how Russia collected crucial plans from "inside the American central command", and channelled it via Moscow's ambassador in Baghdad, Vladimir Titorenko.

    The Pentagon did not explicitly vouch for the authenticity of the documents, but a spokesman said they seemed to be part of a pattern of Russia acting in accord with its economic interests.

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    "I don't see it as an aberration [on Russia's part]," Brigadier-General Anthony Cucolo, who was closely involved with the Pentagon's Iraq Perspectives report, told a press conference. "I see it as a follow-on to economic engagement and economic interests." The report concluded that Saddam's regime believed Russia and France "would act on behalf of their own economic interests in Iraq to block any UN security council actions to authorise an invasion."

    Russia's foreign and defence ministries were not answering reporters' inquiries last night, and a spokesman for the Russian embassy in Washington did not return calls seeking comment.

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    Backstory

    Russia was one of the most vigorous opponents of the US invasion of Iraq and vowed to veto any war-sanctioning UN resolution - not least because of its extensive economic ties to the Saddam regime. Moscow had trade deals worth many billions of dollars in progress with Baghdad, while its oil giant Lukoil had a large stake in the Iraqi oil industry, and Iraq owed Russia $7bn in debt. Russia is also home to many of the officials and companies cited in the Volcker report on the oil-for-food scandal, whereby Saddam allegedly paid foreign politicians to lobby on his behalf.

    Top Russian government ministers regularly visited Baghdad, and Russian military intelligence was thought to have operated in Iraq well after the invasion on March 20 2003. The Russian diplomatic mission fled Baghdad on the eve of the US assault on the city. Four people were injured when the convoy came under fire. The ambassador, Vladimir Titorenko, accused the Americans of firing the shots.

    FULL STORY: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1739407,00.html

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,189050,00.html
  15.    #15  
    Those are all the posts that have been scattered throughout the other threads concerning the newly translated documents captured by Saddam.

    Now if anyone sees any new updates or releases just post them here.
  16. #16  
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal
    Those are all the posts that have been scattered throughout the other threads concerning the newly translated documents captured by Saddam.

    Now if anyone sees any new updates or releases just post them here.
    macaroni



    rofl
  17.    #17  
    Blaze please do not get this thread locked. If you are not interested in the references posted, then simply ignore this thread. Thanks.
  18. #18  
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal
    Blaze please do not get this thread locked. If you are not interested in the references posted, then simply ignore this thread. Thanks.
    lol, lighten up Hobbes, how could I resist?

    maybe we can each have our own "factual only" thread and pm each other about them
  19.    #19  
    Blaze...Thanks....I personally don't mind the banter....but I just want to make sure that it isn't perceived in any other way by anyone else causing the thread to be closed.
  20. #20  
    Me too Hobbes, In any event, I am hoping discussions here can continue, and as far as I know, those who wanted to make sure they don't, are already gone.
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