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  1. #221  
    George Tenet revealed this morning on the today show that there was no connection between Iraq and Al Queda. Wow, after all thats been speculated and reported in this thread and elsewhere, to get this from the person in charge of intelligence at this late date is rather shocking.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...05778520070430


    And today we also learn that Tenent's biography reveals that Vice President Cheney and Bush admin officials insisting on hand picking Iraq's leaders after Sadaam's fall. Fortunately, Cheney was unable to get his favorite pick, Ahmed Chalabi (who is wanted for massive bank fraud in Jordan). I wonder if anyone is shocked by this, given all the rhetoric by Cheney on democracy in Iraq? Frankly I'm not.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aauFQ7_KV8a8
  2.    #222  
    What I found most interesting is the fact that it was reported by "reliable sources" that a nuke was smuggled into New York in 2001. I never heard of this before. Here are some other interesting efforts by AQ revealed by Tenet in the same book:

    The long reach and ambitions of al-Qaida
    Tenet book details chilling plots to kill Gore, acquire nuclear weapons


    The book, “At the Center of the Storm,” which is being published Monday, reveals that al-Qaida or groups affiliated with it have undertaken several other operations aimed at equaling or even surpassing the carnage of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

    The operations, which either were thwarted by authorities or were canceled for one reason or another, included efforts to assassinate Vice President Al Gore with anti-tank missiles during a trip to Saudi Arabia, release cyanide in the New York subway system and procure weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear weapons, from Pakistani nuclear scientists.

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    The plot to kill Gore
    Tenet discloses that in 1998, Saudi officials foiled a plot by Abdel Rahim al-Nashiri to smuggle four Sagger anti-tank missiles from Yemen into Saudi Arabia a week or so before Gore was scheduled to visit the kingdom. But their reluctance to let the United States know what was going on created significant tension between the two nations.

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    Al-Qaida’s WMD plans
    Tenet writes that U.S. intelligence agencies “established that Al Qaeda had clear intent to acquire chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear weapons to cause mass casualties in the United States.”

    According to Tenet, intelligence officials learned that Saudi extremist elements were planning to conduct a cyanide gas attack on the New York subway system in fall 2003 using a homemade device. But first, they requested permission from al-Qaida leaders.

    “Chillingly, word came back from Ayman al-Zawahiri in early 2003 to cancel the operation and recall the operatives who were already staged in New York ‘because we have something better in mind.’ ”


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    Al-Qaida’s nuclear ambitions
    It is the story of al-Qaida’s efforts to acquire weapons or weapons technology from Pakistan that anchors the most chilling part of that section.

    The terrorist network made two separate efforts to persuade Pakistani scientists to provide it with nuclear weapons from their stockpile of about 50 nuclear weapons, highly enriched uranium and plutonium, and vast weapons infrastructure.

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    At the same time, in the fall of 2001, Tenet writes, U.S. intelligence began picking up rumors from several reliable sources that a small nuclear device had been smuggled into the United States, for probable use in New York City. The Energy Department sent detection equipment to New York, he adds.

    Tenet concludes that a nuclear detonation in a U.S. city is al-Qaida’s ultimate goal.

    SOURCE: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18357494
  3. #223  
    Quote Originally Posted by cellmatrix View Post
    George Tenet revealed this morning on the today show that there was no connection between Iraq and Al Queda. Wow, after all thats been speculated and reported in this thread and elsewhere, to get this from the person in charge of intelligence at this late date is rather shocking.
    Um, no. He said there's no connection between Iraq and the attacks on 9/11, which is not news.

    It's at the end of this clip:
    http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/30/...kristol-tenet/

    This article from Reuters uses the quote from the above clip to claim that Tenet said what you said he said. Unless there's another segment where Tenet discusses Iraq and al Qaeda and used the same words, it's apparent that the Reuters journalist is either confused or dishonest.
  4. #224  
    Quote Originally Posted by samkim View Post
    Um, no. He said there's no connection between Iraq and the attacks on 9/11, which is not news.

    It's at the end of this clip:
    http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/30/...kristol-tenet/

    This article from Reuters uses the quote from the above clip to claim that Tenet said what you said he said. Unless there's another segment where Tenet discusses Iraq and al Qaeda and used the same words, it's apparent that the Reuters journalist is either confused or dishonest.
    yes thats interesting, the article definitely says:

    Quote Originally Posted by article
    Tenet now says there was no connection between Iraq and al Qaeda. "There was none at all," he told NBC's "Today Show" Monday.
    Last edited by cellmatrix; 04/30/2007 at 04:27 PM.
  5. #225  
    Tenet needs to walk up to the White House gate and chuck his presidential medal of freedon on the white house lawn and then I'll believe he's sincere.
  6.    #226  
    Just make sure when he does, he doesn't pull a John Kerry and verify it is the real medal.
  7. #227  
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal View Post
    Just make sure when he does, he doesn't pull a John Kerry and verify it is the real medal.
    wow (even in jest)

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    #228  
    ^ Their slime machine is just getting warmed up. Face it, they've got nothing else. Bank on it.
  9. #229  
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal View Post
    RULES: In order to make sure this thread does not get closed, here are some basic rules. This thread is mostly a reference only thread, not a debate thread. This thread is about posting news and links about the latest release of newly translated docs or audio tapes that were captured after the fall of Saddam.
    "there was never a serious debate that I know of within the administration about the imminence of the Iraqi threat."
    George Tenet
    CIA Director during the Iraq Invasion and
    Recipient, Presidential Medal of Freedom

    http://www.medaloffreedom.com/GeorgeTenet.htm
    http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...DOUBLEFEATURE_
  10.    #230  
    Quote Originally Posted by cellmatrix View Post
    "there was never a serious debate that I know of within the administration about the imminence of the Iraqi threat."
    George Tenet
    CIA Director during the Iraq Invasion and
    Recipient, Presidential Medal of Freedom

    http://www.medaloffreedom.com/GeorgeTenet.htm
    http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...DOUBLEFEATURE_
    This does not come as a surprise to me at all as I have basically already stated that I believe that in post #36 of this thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal
    See the difference is I am willing to look at the forthcoming evidence and see what comes out of it. It may prove that Bush has been lying out his ear this whole time to a level that even the Harry Reed never suspected. And I recognize that there may be docs yet to translated that will support that.

    I do not doubt for a minute there was manipulation from the Admin in building up the war.....just as I know there was manipulation for the build up to WWII, and manipulation for the Spanish / American War....and probably every other war we have been in. Clinton did much of same thing as he was building up to another possible war in 1998 with nearly exactly the same claims and even passed the law for the US to bring about the Regime change in Iraq.
    And then again in post a couple pages later:
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal
    But that they are currently only points of interest. I have stated several times that these docs may prove that Bush lied beyond even dreams of the most radical left wing liberal. Or that they may prove that there was more truth in the original causes than anyone even dared dream of at the time. Yet this is construed as hard line justification for Bush just because most of the docs at the moment point in that direction.
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