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  1. #41  
    Quote Originally Posted by clairegrrl
    cite the example...troll
    lol, now the name calling, wow you are a joke
    Quote Originally Posted by clairegrrl
    This is no excuse. If you want to post in english, make sure that your grammer and punctuation are correct.
    Quote Originally Posted by clairegrrl
    What's the excuse for your bad grammer?
    Quote Originally Posted by theBlaze74
    Uh, I think you mean grammar.
  2. #42  
    It's funny...your the one calling everybody names and now you wanna be a troll hater. Doesnt work that way. Once a troll, always a troll
    Well behaved women rarely make history
  3. #43  
    Oh, so this is another argumentation theory you are testing Blazerboy? Went over my head like a blast of hot air...
    Remember, the "P" in PDA stands for personal.
    If it works for you, it is "P"erfect.
  4. #44  
    Quote Originally Posted by dstrauss
    Oh, so this is another argumentation theory you are testing Blazerboy? Went over my head like a blast of hot air...
    lol sorry, just joining in the "how to win an argument" thread

    calling someone a communist ususally gets the job done
  5. #45  
    Quote Originally Posted by theBlaze74
    lol sorry, just joining in the "how to win an argument" thread

    calling someone a communist ususally gets the job done
    Communist!!

    What do I win??
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  6. #46  
    The solution can only be global incremental paradigm shifts.
    Generate your own argument-winning gobbledygook at:

    http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/generator.html

    If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bull
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  7. #47  
    Quote Originally Posted by bheuss
    Generate your own argument-winning gobbledygook at:

    http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/generator.html

    If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bull
    http://www.mindspring.com/~mfpatton/sketch.htm
  8. #48  
    The Argument Sketch
    From "Monty Python's Previous Record" and "Monty Python's Instant Record Collection"
    Originally transcribed by Dan Kay (dan@reed.uucp)

    The Cast (in order of appearance.)
    M= Man looking for an argument
    R= Receptionist
    Q= Abuser
    A= Arguer (John Cleese)
    C= Complainer (Eric Idle)
    H= Head Hitter

    M: Ah. I'd like to have an argument, please.
    R: Certainly sir. Have you been here before?
    M: No, I haven't, this is my first time.
    R: I see. Well, do you want to have just one argument, or were you thinking of taking a course?
    M: Well, what is the cost?
    R: Well, It's one pound for a five minute argument, but only eight pounds for a course of ten.
    M: Well, I think it would be best if I perhaps started off with just the one and then see how it goes.
    R: Fine. Well, I'll see who's free at the moment.
    Pause
    R: Mr. DeBakey's free, but he's a little bit conciliatory.
    Ahh yes, Try Mr. Barnard; room 12.
    M: Thank you.

    (Walks down the hall. Opens door.)

    Q: WHAT DO YOU WANT?
    M: Well, I was told outside that...
    Q: Don't give me that, you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!
    M: What?
    Q: Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type really makes me puke, you vacuous, coffee-nosed, maloderous, pervert!!!
    M: Look, I CAME HERE FOR AN ARGUMENT, I'm not going to just stand...!!
    Q: OH, oh I'm sorry, but this is abuse.
    M: Oh, I see, well, that explains it.
    Q: Ah yes, you want room 12A, Just along the corridor.
    M: Oh, Thank you very much. Sorry.
    Q: Not at all.
    M: Thank You.
    (Under his breath) Stupid git!!

    (Walk down the corridor)
    M: (Knock)
    A: Come in.
    M: Ah, Is this the right room for an argument?
    A: I told you once.
    M: No you haven't.
    A: Yes I have.
    M: When?
    A: Just now.
    M: No you didn't.
    A: Yes I did.
    M: You didn't
    A: I did!
    M: You didn't!
    A: I'm telling you I did!
    M: You did not!!
    A: Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
    M: Oh, just the five minutes.
    A: Ah, thank you. Anyway, I did.
    M: You most certainly did not.
    A: Look, let's get this thing clear; I quite definitely told you.
    M: No you did not.
    A: Yes I did.
    M: No you didn't.
    A: Yes I did.
    M: No you didn't.
    A: Yes I did.
    M: No you didn't.
    A: Yes I did.
    M: You didn't.
    A: Did.
    M: Oh look, this isn't an argument.
    A: Yes it is.
    M: No it isn't. It's just contradiction.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: It is!
    A: It is not.
    M: Look, you just contradicted me.
    A: I did not.
    M: Oh you did!!
    A: No, no, no.
    M: You did just then.
    A: Nonsense!
    M: Oh, this is futile!
    A: No it isn't.
    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

    A: Yes it is!
    M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
    (short pause)
    A: No it isn't.
    M: It is.
    A: Not at all.
    M: Now look.
    A: (Rings bell) Good Morning.
    M: What?
    A: That's it. Good morning.
    M: I was just getting interested.
    A: Sorry, the five minutes is up.
    M: That was never five minutes!
    A: I'm afraid it was.
    M: It wasn't.
    Pause
    A: I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue anymore.
    M: What?!
    A: If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.
    M: Yes, but that was never five minutes, just now. Oh come on!
    A: (Hums)
    M: Look, this is ridiculous.
    A: I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid!
    M: Oh, all right.
    (pays money)
    A: Thank you.
    short pause
    M: Well?
    A: Well what?
    M: That wasn't really five minutes, just now.
    A: I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid.
    M: I just paid!
    A: No you didn't.
    M: I DID!
    A: No you didn't.
    M: Look, I don't want to argue about that.
    A: Well, you didn't pay.
    M: Aha. If I didn't pay, why are you arguing? I Got you!
    A: No you haven't.
    M: Yes I have. If you're arguing, I must have paid.
    A: Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.
    M: Oh I've had enough of this.
    A: No you haven't.
    M: Oh Shut up.
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    This explains a lot.
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       #50  
    Quote Originally Posted by samkim
    This explains a lot.
    What? The sketch, or the fact that he posted it?
  11. #51  
    It looks like the swallow did get as far as Blazerboy's noggin before dropping the coconut.
    Remember, the "P" in PDA stands for personal.
    If it works for you, it is "P"erfect.
  12. #52  
    Quote Originally Posted by Micael
    What? The sketch, or the fact that he posted it?
    The sketch explains how Blaze became such a good arguer, as well as abuser.
  13. #53  
    Quote Originally Posted by samkim
    The sketch explains how Blaze became such a good arguer, as well as abuser.
    No I'm not.
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       #54  
    Quote Originally Posted by theBlaze74
    No I'm not.
    e.g., don't compare apples and oranges.
  15. #55  
    Quote Originally Posted by Micael
    After reading some of the threads in this forum, I thought these pointers and techniques might prove useful. Use them liberally, or conservatively, so to speak:

    How to Win Arguments, As It Were
    by DAVE BARRY

    I argue very well. Ask any of my remaining friends. I can win an argument on any topic, against any opponent. People know this, and steer clear of me at parties. Often, as a sign of their great respect, they don't even invite me. You too can win arguments.

    Simply follow these rules:

    Drink Liquor.
    Suppose you're at a party and some hotshot intellectual is expounding on the economy of Peru, a subject you know nothing about. If you're drinking some health-fanatic drink like grapefruit juice, you'll hang back, afraid to display your ignorance, while the hotshot enthralls your date. But if you drink several large martinis, you'll discover you have STRONG VIEWS about the Peruvian economy. You'll be a WEALTH of information. You'll argue forcefully, offering searing insights and possibly upsetting furniture. People will be impressed. Some may leave the room.

    Make things up.
    Suppose, in the Peruvian economy argument, you are trying to prove Peruvians are underpaid, a position you base solely on the fact that YOU are underpaid, and you're damned if you're going to let a bunch of Peruvians be better off. DON'T say: ``I think Peruvians are underpaid.'' Say: ``The average Peruvian's salary in 1981 dollars adjusted for the revised tax base is $1,452.81 per annum, which is $836.07 before the mean gross poverty level.''


    NOTE: Always make up exact figures.
    If an opponent asks you where you got your information, make THAT up, too. Say: ``This information comes from Dr. Hovel T. Moon's study for the Buford Commission published May 9, 1982. Didn't you read it?'' Say this in the same tone of voice you would use to say ``You left your soiled underwear in my bath house.''

    Use meaningless but weightly-sounding words and phrases.

    Memorize this list:

    Let me put it this way
    In terms of
    Vis-a-vis
    Per se
    As it were
    Qua
    So to speak
    You should also memorize some Latin abbreviations such as ``Q.E.D.,'' ``e.g.,'' and ``i.e.'' These are all short for ``I speak Latin, and you do not.''

    Here's how to use these words and phrases. Suppose you want to say: ``Peruvians would like to order appetizers more often, but they don't have enough money.''

    You never win arguments talking like that. But you WILL win if you say: ``Let me put it this way. In terms of appetizers vis-a-vis Peruvians qua Peruvians, they would like to order them more often, so to speak, but they do not have enough money per se, as it were. Q.E.D.''

    Only a fool would challenge that statement.

    Use snappy and irrelevant comebacks.
    You need an arsenal of all-purpose irrelevant phrases to fire back at your opponents when they make valid points. The best are:

    You're begging the question.
    You're being defensive.
    Don't compare apples and oranges.
    What are your parameters?
    This last one is especially valuable. Nobody, other than mathematicians, has the vaguest idea what ``parameters'' means.

    Here's how to use your comebacks:

    You say: ``As Abraham Lincoln said in 1873...''
    Your opponent says: ``Lincoln died in 1865.''
    You say: ``You're begging the question.''

    OR

    You say: ``Liberians, like most Asians...''
    Your opponent says: ``Liberia is in Africa.''
    You say: ``You're being defensive.''

    Compare your opponent to Adolf Hitler.
    This is your heavy artillery, for when your opponent is obviously right and you are spectacularly wrong. Bring Hitler up subtly. Say: ``That sounds suspiciously like something Adolf Hitler might say'' or ``You certainly do remind me of Adolf Hitler.''

    So that's it: you now know how to out-argue anybody. Do not try to pull this on people who generally carry weapons.
    Someone found Blazeboy's manifesto.
    Freedom of some speech in the US, through someone in the UK.
  16. #56  
    Quote Originally Posted by geatches
    Someone found Blazeboy's manifesto.
    Fresh off being banned from the site, and picking right up where he left off I see.
  17. #57  
    Quote Originally Posted by theBlaze74
    Fresh off being banned from the site, and picking right up where he left off I see.
    lol!
    Freedom of some speech in the US, through someone in the UK.
  18. #58  
    If I offend you, put down the blunt and run upstairs to tell mommy.
    Freedom of some speech in the US, through someone in the UK.
  19. #59  
    Quote Originally Posted by geatches
    If I offend you, put down the blunt and run upstairs to tell mommy.
    Warning 2, don't make it 3....
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  20. #60  
    After many complaints I'm closing this thread since it seems to become a name calling contest and goes way off topic.

    Can I reming everybody here that personal attacks and name calling are not allowed at TC.
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