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    http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/04/tech...peed/index.htm

    the article talks about a car whose incredible zero to sixty acceleration is generated by an electric battery! interesting lcd display on the car`s dashboard. very intriguing! also very expensive... for now. but just like anything in tech, its expensive at first but then becomes more affordable in time.


    I thought this article was worthy of a bookmark. Id love to see mr gates and other billionaires (or siliconaires) donate some of their millions toward this type of research to help detour us from our dependence on oil.
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    Awesome article. Let's hope they can see the forest for the trees, where Big Auto can't.
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    Very interesting indeed. I hope this won't die like the Tucker cars!
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    Uh, where are you gonna get all this electricity?
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    I wonder what the actiradius is of that thing..
    Great if it is fast, but pointless if you have to plug it in every 50 mile..

    Found this link btw..
    http://www.darelldd.com/ev/wrightspeed.htm

    0-60 in 3.x sec that is impressive indeed.. but then again the original ariel atom can do that too..
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Atom

    Basically it is all due to its low weight..

    Don't get me wrong, I love initiatives like this, but also am a realist..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT
    I wonder what the actiradius is of that thing..
    Great if it is fast, but pointless if you have to plug it in every 50 mile..
    100 miles, charge rate 4.5 hrs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theBlaze74
    Uh, where are you gonna get all this electricity?
    The X1 runs on 538 pounds of lithium-ion cells capable of generating 4,000 amps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiveSoundGuy
    The X1 runs on 538 pounds of lithium-ion cells capable of generating 4,000 amps.
    Wrecks would be a real b!#@$ with all that Li everywhere. But still, I'm really enthusiatic. To answer blazerboy's usual wet blanket (lord how he loves to take the other side of anything), we generate a lot of electricity out here in west texas with wind turbines - you ought to get one for your back yard.
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    Indeed!
    (Think of the ground clearence you would need to strap one of those babies on!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by theBlaze74
    Uh, where are you gonna get all this electricity?
    How about this and never have to recharge it. Just take your old battery down to your local nuclear waste dump and then go buy another one:

    Nuclear battery keeps going, and going ...
    New devices could put out power for decade or more


    or this one for those of you who really love the details:

    New Nuclear Battery™ Runs 10 Years, 10 Times More Powerful

    Technology is growing and other options besides gas or electricity or elecricity made from fossil fuels that we are not even aware of in the public domain may present a wonderful surprise.......or we just buy a lot of stock in Duracall to get a little something back for buying a boat load of D's for your car each time you want to take a trip to the beach!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiveSoundGuy
    100 miles, charge rate 4.5 hrs.
    Thank you! If someone offered a gasoline powered car that had a range of 100 miles they'd get ridiculed. Even though you can refill the tank in a minute or so. But make an electric car that can only go 100 miles, and takes four and a half hours to "refill the tank" and people act like its the second coming of the automobile. And, of course, the more you use all that power to accelerate, or drive at high speeds, the shorter your battery life. I bet those performance tests against the Ferrari and Porsche dropped battery life to under an hour.

    This is just another article written by someone who doesn't really understand what he's writing about, but probably thinks that the gasoline engined auto is the root of all evil.

    Getting acceleration out of electric cars isn't that much of a trick. Electric motors produce maximum torque at 0 rpm, so acceleration off the line is a strength of electric cars. Range, and recharge time, have always been the achilles heel of electric cars and this prototype does nothing to change it.

    $100,000 bucks is a long way from practical. And people have been talking about major advances in battery technology for years, but no ones gotten close to a practical, all electric car, yet. For everyone claiming tremendous new technologies are "just around the corner," there are others saying we're pretty close to the theoretical limits of battery performance.

    Plug-in Hybrids are probably the best bet in the short run. At least with those, if you need to spend more than an hour in the car, you're not stranded. But they're expensive, too. The battery pack in a Prius costs $8,000 dollars to replace, and Toyota's subsidizing the cost. The plug-in Priuses (Prii?) that have been made use twice the number of batteries as the Prius. And Toyota's not subsidizing that. Would you buy a Plug-in Prius if it cost $10-$12000 more than a regular Prius?

    Ethanol may have a significant future, but the popular press (and the politicos) as usual, underestimate the practical difficulties. Ethanol, at this junction, is expensive and energy intensive to distill, and distribution is much more complex and expensive than gasoline. And let's not ignore the amount of land that would have to be devoted to grain and/or corn production to meet U.S. consumption.

    How about hydrogen? Yep, it's a great fuel: clean and efficient. But distribution is an even bigger problem than with Ethanol. And it's far more expensive and energy intensive to produce than ethanol. In fact, hydrogen is more of a storage medium than an energy source: it takes as much energy to produce hydrogen as it produces when burned.

    There are no easy solutions, or we'd already have found them. We won't switch to alternatives to gasoline until gasoline becomes significantly more expensive than the alternatives. So don't look to save money on alternatives.
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    There have been many options and theories to help extend the life of daily use on battery based cars.
    • Using the rotation of the wheels or energy produced when breaks are applied to help generate additional charge for the batteries as they are being used.
    • Everything from solar panels to solar energy collecting paint.
    • I read an article a while ago where a guy was attempting to put a whole series of miniature windmills behind the grill to help generate additional energy while driving.
    • Nuclear based batteries like a linked to above.

    These obviously range from currently far fetched to possible, but currently way out of the league of mainstream with (lack of) current technology, but the point is there are a lot of people working on solutions to not have to plug in an electric car at all. And all it takes is one of these to really work, and our whole world of transportation could change in a very short order.

    I seriously see this being a time of being on the verge of discovery. One of those times when a single invention (or someone getting a combination of current ones to work) changing the whole dynamic of the world.....litterally, with no personal exaggeration, on the scale the Wright brother's first successful motorized flight.

    A fully self energy producing or none oil dependent reliable transportation would change the world as we know it:

    International politics and foreign affairs. Imagine a world we we did not have worry about if Iran or Venezuela decided not to sell us oil.

    Domestic economy. Imagine if our economy was not based on our own oil refineries being hit by one or 5 major hurricanes in a single year, knocking them out of commission.

    World Economy. What would many of the Middle East countries and Russia do if oil says dropped by 85% worldwide?

    Military. One of the MAJOR issues with warfare is oil supply and distributing it to the field of battle. Imagine the impact it would have if this factor was taken away or at least greatly minimized.
    Last edited by HobbesIsReal; 05/06/2006 at 09:59 AM.
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    How about reducing our expectations. How about not expecting to drive 100 miles per day? >75% of people commute less than 40 miles per day. The things is that people rather wait for these compromises to be forced on them by circumstances. Nothing wrong with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal
    There have been many options and theories to help extend the life of daily use on battery based cars.
    • I read an article a while ago where a guy was attempting to put a whole series of miniature windmills behind the grill to help generate additional energy while driving.
    The extra drag the fans would cause would negate the gain I'm afraid..
    if not we would get a perpetulum mobile..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT
    The extra drag the fans would cause would negate the gain I'm afraid..
    if not we would get a perpetulum mobile..
    That we would start by blowing on it
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