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  1. #141  
    Quote Originally Posted by shopharim
    Interesting direction. This begs the question, 'what is in all our best interest?' And another question, 'how do we know when one has our best interest at heart?'
    Well those are great questions !Im finding It impossible to presume on paper what someone else's best interests might be. I could say something obvious like I know it when I see it . or .I know what isn't in your best Interest but maybe even thats not Honest . All I can say is if we're going to keep this game going we need to be safe from those that become obsessed on winning at the expense of the whole game. Power,will and Might, must be tempered with love truth Intelligence. I know someone has my best interest at heart if I fell the love. It sounds silly,but if you look ,you'll find that all our questions and problems turn to golden opportunities with love
  2. #142  


    Wal-Mart Forced To Stock Emergency Contraceptive

    Wal-Mart Forced To Stock Contraceptive

    BOSTON, Feb. 14, 2006
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    (AP) The state board that oversees pharmacies ordered Wal-Mart on Tuesday to stock emergency contraception pills at its pharmacies in Massachusetts, making the Bay State the second in the nation to require the world's largest retailer to carry the drug.

    A Wal-Mart spokesman said the company would comply with the directive by the Massachusetts Board of Pharmacy, and is reviewing its nationwide policy governing the so-called "morning after" pill.

    "Clearly women's health is a high priority for Wal-Mart," spokesman Dan Fogleman said. "We are actively thinking through the issue."....
  3. #143  
    Quote Originally Posted by t2gungho
    And to keep this OT, are you making any of these claims that walmart is doing this?
    The shipyards in India were the most extreme case that i can remember hearing about. I saw a documentary on DiscoveryHD. Here's an article more specific to walmart.

    Wal-Mart's Shirts of Misery from Bangladesh

    Edited by P. Singh

    When you purchase a shirt in Walmart, do you ever imagine young women in Bangladesh forced to work from 7:30 a.m. to 8:00 p.m., seven days a week, paid just 9 cents to 20 cents an hour, who are denied health care and maternity leave; screamed at to work faster; with monitored bathroom visits; and who will be fired for daring to complain or ask for their rights?

    At the Beximco factory in the Dhaka Export Processing Zone in Bangladesh, there are 1,000 workers, at least 80 percent of them young women, sewing shirts and pants for Walmart and other retailers. Beximco is a sweatshop, where human rights are systematically violated.
  4. #144  
    Quote Originally Posted by theBlaze74


    Wal-Mart Forced To Stock Emergency Contraceptive

    Wal-Mart Forced To Stock Contraceptive

    BOSTON, Feb. 14, 2006
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    (AP) The state board that oversees pharmacies ordered Wal-Mart on Tuesday to stock emergency contraception pills at its pharmacies in Massachusetts, making the Bay State the second in the nation to require the world's largest retailer to carry the drug.

    A Wal-Mart spokesman said the company would comply with the directive by the Massachusetts Board of Pharmacy, and is reviewing its nationwide policy governing the so-called "morning after" pill.

    "Clearly women's health is a high priority for Wal-Mart," spokesman Dan Fogleman said. "We are actively thinking through the issue."....
    I curious why you posted this
  5.    #145  
    Maybe WalMart is one of those places that believes women have no right to the morning after pill. There have been several stories about this subject, not only with WalMart.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
  6.    #146  
    Quote Originally Posted by sxtg
    If you re-read your own post I think you'll understand that "fashionable stores" are not telling people what they should wear. They are simply responding to what people want to wear.

    If they didn't stock what some major celeb makes popular would they then be telling people that it shouldn't be popular? Or would it simply be a matter of poor business pratices?
    Fashion is influenced by what the designers at the top tell us to wear for the season. The fashionable stores follow along with the designers. So do fashion magazines. Look at a major fashion magazine and then you will see what I mean. We are indeed being told what to wear. That's why you see so many people(probably more in urban areas, though) who are slaves to fashion. They are trying to be "in". It's sort of a vicious cycle. We only want to wear it because we believe what the designers have told us. This is why I don't always follow all the fashion trends.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
  7. #147  
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Treo
    Fashion is influenced by what the designers at the top tell us to wear for the season. The fashionable stores follow along with the designers. So do fashion magazines. Look at a major fashion magazine and then you will see what I mean. We are indeed being told what to wear. That's why you see so many people(probably more in urban areas, though) who are slaves to fashion. They are trying to be "in". It's sort of a vicious cycle. We only want to wear it because we believe what the designers have told us. This is why I don't always follow all the fashion trends.
    Yes I understand that, however the fashion industry creates the demand for products, not the stores. Its a business desision to carry products that will likely sell. Stores simply provide a supply to meet a projected demand. If their projections are right, the store will thrive, if not, it will fail. Simple business!
  8. #148  
    Must be tough to be a female. I just wear a pair of shorts and a T-shirt most of the time. I don't need a damn magazine or some limp wristed designer telling me what to wear...
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  9.    #149  
    Quote Originally Posted by sxtg
    Yes I understand that, however the fashion industry creates the demand for products, not the stores. Its a business desision to carry products that will likely sell. Stores simply provide a supply to meet a projected demand. If their projections are right, the store will thrive, if not, it will fail. Simple business!

    I understand what you're saying. I just think it's a vicious circle to some degree. Don't get me wrong, I have bought a lot of fashionable things if I thought I could use them. But the stores do play a big part in the designer hype. The sales people are taught to sell what's "fashionable", even if you are unaware of what the lastest trends are. They make sure they tell you.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
  10.    #150  
    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    Must be tough to be a female. I just wear a pair of shorts and a T-shirt most of the time. I don't need a damn magazine or some limp wristed designer telling me what to wear...

    Aren't you around L.A.? If so, how to you avoid the image thing? When I was out there, many men were victims too. Some of them are worse than the women!!
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
  11. #151  
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Treo
    Aren't you around L.A.? If so, how to you avoid the image thing? When I was out there, many men were victims too. Some of them are worse than the women!!
    Yes, I do live out here. I just don't get wrapped up in it. Basically, either you like me, or you don't. If someone is going to base whom they associate based on what they wear, I can do without those kinds of "friends."
    MaxiMunK.com The Forum That Asks, "Are You Not Entertained?"

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  12. #152  
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Treo
    I understand what you're saying. I just think it's a vicious circle to some degree. Don't get me wrong, I have bought a lot of fashionable things if I thought I could use them. But the stores do play a big part in the designer hype. The sales people are taught to sell what's "fashionable", even if you are unaware of what the lastest trends are. They make sure they tell you.
    NO the stores don't! They simply carry products that they believe will sell. Sales people are taught (arguable ) to sell whatever product the store happens to carry. Ultimately the consumer controls the inventory, if they don't buy it the stores quit selling it. This is all very basic economics.
  13.    #153  
    When was the last time you were in a store like what I'm speaking of? They most certainly DO. Certain departments are more aggressive than others, but yes they tell you what is cool and that you should get it. IF they're doing their job.

    I remember a fashion trend that did badly in Chicago, and the stores carried it anyway.

    Although now that I think about it, maybe I look out of style and that's why. I don't always follow the latest trends.
    Last edited by The Phone Diva; 04/24/2006 at 09:33 PM.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
  14. #154  
    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    Must be tough to be a female. I just wear a pair of shorts and a T-shirt most of the time. I don't need a damn magazine or some limp wristed designer telling me what to wear...
    not surprised, but nevertheless its sad to hear that you have bought into and assimilated mainstream homo sapien cultural values --

    as a proud simian unashamed of my cultural heritage, I'm not embarrased by my roots or extra appendages.

    Sure I might wear the odd homo sapien gament on special state occaisons -- but should we ever meet you'll know that I'm the real deal, an au naturel unapolgetic beast !
    Last edited by BARYE; 04/24/2006 at 10:45 PM.
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  15. #155  
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Treo
    Fashion is influenced by what the designers at the top tell us to wear for the season. The fashionable stores follow along with the designers. So do fashion magazines. Look at a major fashion magazine and then you will see what I mean. We are indeed being told what to wear. That's why you see so many people(probably more in urban areas, though) who are slaves to fashion. They are trying to be "in". It's sort of a vicious cycle. We only want to wear it because we believe what the designers have told us. This is why I don't always follow all the fashion trends.
    OK, let me get this straight. The fashion magazines tell us what to wear, but the objectionable lyrics don't influence how we think.
  16. #156  
    Quote Originally Posted by BARYE
    Sure I might wear the odd homo sapien gament on special state occaisons -- but should we ever meet you'll know that I'm the real deal, an au naturel unapolgetic beast !
    errrr....no offense, but I'm hoping we never meet
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  17.    #157  
    Quote Originally Posted by shopharim
    OK, let me get this straight. The fashion magazines tell us what to wear, but the objectionable lyrics don't influence how we think.
    I did say people need to think for themselves, didn't I? That goes for both fashion and music! I don't let lyrics tell me what to believe, nor do I let fashion mags completely dictate my wardrobe.

    You will only be influenced if you choose to follow blindly without questioning.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
  18. #158  
    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    errrr....no offense, but I'm hoping we never meet
    unless there's a break down amongst my crack Witness Protection Program security detail, we should take comfort in knowing that we're both safe from that
    755P Sprint SERO (upgraded from unlocked GSM 650 on T-Mobile)
  19.    #159  
    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    errrr....no offense, but I'm hoping we never meet

    I may end up going back to L.A. later in the year.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
  20. #160  
    I'm late to this off-topic discussion, so here are my opinions on various things discussed here...

    1) I don't like to shop at Wal-Mart and I do like to rant about them, but I've occasionally been a hypocrite and gone there simply because I was looking for something in particular and they were the closest store that might have it. I always felt dirty about it. I don't consider Wal-Mart to be uniquely evil, but I consider this country to be controlled by the interests of the megacorps and I'm sickened by that. We've got job losses and depressed wages due to outsourcing and rampant use of H1B visa holders and illegal immigrants. As a culture, we think that "Made in China" is an OK thing. This is a dictatorship we're talking about. This is a country that uses slave labor, prison labor, child labor and snubs its nose at workplace safety and even the most basic environmental standards. Forget about Most Favored Nation status (which Clinton signed in, if I recall correctly), should we even be trading with them *AT ALL*?

    2) As for health insurance, someone else already mentioned that companies offer this by choice. The only laws that I'm aware of is that if they offer it for one employee, they have to offer to all employees (or, at least, all *like* employees - e.g., they can set minimum requirements of # of hours worked, etc.). This is a holdover from a bygone age where employers wanted to woo employees by offering extra benefits. Compare that to today's culture where worker supply often exceeds demand (see my previous comments pertaining to use of outsourcing, H1B visa and illegal immigrants). That said, sign me up as someone who is *AGAINST* forcing employers to offer health insurance to employees. Do that and say goodbye to small employers. And if you say goodbye to small employers, you can say hello to more monopolies and the death of the American dream. So what *IS* my opinion about health coverage? Call me a socialist if you'd like, but I think either a complete universal health coverage, government subsidized, or at least government pricing and/or coverage standards policies should be employed. Car insurance rates can go up and down based on my driving record and, worse case, if I can't *GET* coverage (because I'm such an awful driver and have had a lot of accidents), I can take the bus. But if I'm born with a terrible lifelong illness, that's not my fault and it's possibly not something I can change no matter what amount of effort I put into it. Should I then be doomed to a life of poverty because I have to work harder and longer just to pay my exhorbitant health insurance rates or, worse still, just plan on dying an early death because I can't afford it? No, that's where I think a caring democratic society decides to "chip in" and help cover the less fortunate among us. While many of the individuals in that society may not be "caring", the country as a whole considers itself a caring one and so it employs policies that make this happen. Again, this is probably a socialistic concept. I have no problem with that.

    We as a country have been brainwashed into thinking (or simply bought into the idea) that the world is now flat and it's one big global economy, yada yada yada. I don't have *too* big of a problem with that notion so long as we limit our trading partners to those who offer their citizens similar rights, similar safety and environment standards, are democracies (as opposed to dictatorships), etc. (which we don't do - see China). But even with that standard set, I still have some problems with it. The fact is that we *are* a singular country. We're here largely because most of us were born here, but at a larger level, don't we like to think that we're citizens of this country because there's something special/better about this country? And so is it too much to expect that we would expect that our government would look out for our best interests? That this country would say no when a company wants to fire 1000 employees here and outsource those jobs to another country? Even if you're a selfish person, think about the advantages/disadvantages for your own sake? More unemployment equates to more crime (which could affect you or someone you do care about), depressed wages in your job market (as some of these unemployed people train themselves in careers where there are still jobs - like yours!), etc. Honestly, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that a society where everyone is employed with living wages is going to be a more peaceful/better society than one where only 10% of the population is employed with a living wage.

    That's all for now.
    Now THIS is the future of smartphones.
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