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    Hey there fellow TCers. My current laptop has sh*t the bed, and I am in need of a new laptop. I figured since we (TCers) are some of the more hardcore geeks, that I would ask your all's opinion on some laptops, or suggestions. My parameters for the laptop should be under 3 pounds or less, or if the laptop has a special function(Tablet) I would consider more weight, screen no larger then 13", 1 GHZ or higher processor, PCMCIA slot.

    I would love some suggestions. So if some of you guys/gals have any ideas please share them.

    I also would like to note that I have looked at OQO, some Sony's. And yes I like the Fujitsu's quite a bit.

    Here are some of the laptops I have researched and really liked.

    Fujitsu P1510D






    Specs:

    Operating Systems
    Microsoft® Windows® XP Tablet PC Edition 2005
    Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional
    Software
    Fujitsu Display Controls, Fujitsu Hot Key Utility, Adobe® Reader®, Microsoft® Reader, Microsoft® Journal Viewer, Fujitsu Driver Update Utility, Fujitsu Touchscreen Calibration Utility, Softex OmniPass

    Optional Software
    Depending on your system's configuration, you may also receive: EverNote™ Plus 1.0; ritePen® 2.5; DialKeys by Fortune-Fountain; Bluetooth Utility

    Note: Requires an external USB optical drive to install the optional software when purchased with Windows XP Professional

    Key Specifications

    Processor
    Intel® Pentium® M Processor Ultra Low Voltage 753 (1.20 GHz, 2 MB L2 cache, 400 MHz FSB)

    Chipset
    Intel® 915GMS

    System Memory
    One Micro-DIMM slot; min 256 MB; max 1 GB

    Digitzer
    Resistive (Passive)

    Display
    LCD

    8.9" wide SVGA display with touch screen
    Video Controller

    Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 900 ; Dynamic Video Memory Technology (DVMT) responds to application requirements and efficiently allocates the proper amount of system memory (up to 128 MB) for optimal graphics and system performance
    Resolution

    Internal display (max): 1024x600, 16M colors
    External monitor display (max): 1600x1200, 16M colors

    Hard Drive¹ 30 GB or 60 GB (4200 rpm), ATA 100; Shock-mounted

    Audio
    RealTek™ ALC203 AC'97 Rev. 2.3 compliant, 18-bit stereo full-duplex CODEC with independent and variable sampling rate
    Stereo and headphone/line-out jacks
    Microphone/line-in jack
    Internal built-in microphone included

    Communication
    Multinational² 56K³ V.90 modem; 10/100 Ethernet LAN

    Wireless Communication

    Atheros Super AG® Wireless LAN (802.11a/b/g); Wi-Fi®; CCX and WPA certified

    User Interfaces
    StickPoint by Alps, 82-key keyboard with 16 mm key pitch; 2 mm key stroke


    Ports
    Two USB 2.0
    External monitor
    Modem (RJ-11)
    Ethernet (RJ-45) Headphone/line-out
    Microphone/line-in
    Docking connector
    Card Slots
    One Type I or Type II CF Card slot
    One Secure Digital (SD) Card slot

    Security Platform Integrated Biometric fingerprint swipe sensor
    Embedded Trusted Platform Module (TPM)
    Security lock slot

    Battery Life4
    Standard Lithium ion (3-cell, 10.8V, 2600 mAh); up to 3.5 hours of battery life
    High-capacity Lithium ion (6-cell, 10.8V, 5200 mAh); up to 7.0 hours of battery life

    AC Adapter
    Autosensing dual voltage support, 100-240V AC supplying 16V DC, 3.75A

    Dimensions and Weight
    9.3" x 6.57" x 1.36"/1.46"; Approximately 2.2 lbs. with a 3-cell battery
    9.3" x 7.32" x 1.36"/1.46"; Approximately 2.5 lbs. with a 6-cell battery

    Operating Temperature 41°F to 95°F / 5° to 35°C (ambient temperature); 20% to 85% relative humidity, non-condensing
    Non-operating Temperature 5°F to 140°F / -15°C to 60°C, 8% to 85% relative humidity; non-condensing


    Key Accessories Port replicator with two USB 2.0, external monitor, Ethernet (RJ-45), and DC-in
    For a full list of accessories, visit www.shopfujitsu.com or call 1-800-FUJITSU
    Service & Regulatory Information

    Compliance
    FCC Part 15B Class B and FCC Part 15C; IC ICES-003 Class B and RSS-210
    UL-cUL Listed
    FCC Part 68; IC CS-03
    CE Marking
    ENERGY STAR®

    Warranty5 One-year or three-year International Limited Warranty
    24/7 technical support
    Fujitsu extended service plans available
    Fujitsu P7120 (in 'Mar's Red)




    Specifications

    Fujitsu makes two models, the P7120 and P7120D. The only difference between the two is the wireless card. The D model comes with the Atheros Super AG wireless card. The other uses Intel's 2915 ABG card.

    Weight: 3 pounds (4 cell battery), 3.2 pounds (6-cell battery)
    Dimensions: 10.28" x 7.83" x 1.26" -- 1.43"
    Intel Pentium M Processor Ultra Low Voltage 753 (1.20 GHz, 2 MB L2 cache, 400 MHz FSB)
    Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900, dynamic memory up to 128MB
    Microsoft Windows XP Professional or Home
    10.6" Crystal View wide XGA TFT display 1280x768, external support up to 1600x1200
    512 MB DDR2 400 MHz Micro-DIMM (Upgraded to 1GB, supports up to 2GB)
    30 or 60 GB hard drive; 1.8" 4200 rpm; P-ATA 100; shock-mounted
    Modular DVD/CD-RW drive or Modular Dual-Layer Multi-Format DVD Writer
    Multinational 56K V.90 modem
    10/100 Ethernet LAN
    Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection (Tri-mode 802.11a/b/g) or Atheros Super AG
    Bluetooth (v1.2) Personal Area Network (PAN)
    Embedded TPM and Fingerprint Sensor
    RealTek ALC260 with HD audio
    Ports: Headphone/line-in jack, Microphone/line-out jack, three USB 2.0, 4-pin IEEE 1394, S-Video out, VGA out, Docking connector, Ethernet, modem
    PCMCIA card slot
    Shared slot for Memory Stick, Secure Digital and xD memory cards
    Dual mic array with noise cancellation
    High-capacity main battery: Lithium ion 6-cell, 7.2V, 7800 mAh, 56 WHr or 4-cell, 7.2V, 5200 mAh, 37 WHr
    82-key keyboard with 18 mm key pitch and 2 mm key stroke
    One-year International Limited Warranty
    Fujitsu P4020D







    Specs:

    Type: Business, General Purpose, Tablet
    Operating System: MS Windows XP Tablet PC Edition
    Processor Name: Intel Pentium M 740
    Processor Speed: 1.73 GHz
    RAM: 512 MB
    Hard Drive Capacity: 60 GB
    Graphics: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 GM
    Primary Optical Drive: DVD-ROM/CD-RW
    Wireless: 802.11a/g and Bluetooth v1.2
    Screen Size: 12.1 inches
    Screen Size Type: indoor/outdoor viewable
    System Weight: 4.3 lbs

    Flybook







    Processor Transmeta Crusoe TM-5800, clock rate at 1GHz
    64K L1 Instruction Cache; 64K L1 Data Cache
    512K L2 Write-back Cache
    Built-in NorthBridge to support DDR/SDR/PCI interface
    LongRun Technology to extend Battery usage
    Support full SMM(System Management Mode)

    Chipset ALi 1535+

    Graphic Chipset ATi Radeon Mobility high performance low power chipset
    Built-in 16MB VRAM
    Support VGA-out and Video-out
    Support DirectXR 9.0

    Main Memory 512MB DDR

    BIOS and Flash Phoenix FB BIOS/512KB

    Display 8.9" wide-view 16:9 display
    LTPS technology
    1024 x 600 (Wide-XGA) high resolutions
    Highest color to 32-bit
    Touch Panel overlaid for full screen touch control

    External Display XGA (1024 x 768) (highest to 32-bit color)
    SXGA (1280 x 1024)(highest to 32-bit color)
    Highest resolutions to 1800 x 1440 (highest to 32-bit color)

    External Video NTSC/PAL

    PC Card Interface Support PCMCIA Cardbus Type-I/II

    Hard Disk 2.5" Ultra DMA 66/100; 40 GB

    Bluetooth Built-in Bluetooth Version 1.1
    Antenna : Built-in

    Wireless WAN Built-in GPRS
    Frequency : Tri Band ( 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz )
    Antenna : Built-in

    Wireless LAN(WiFi) Built-in 802.11b Wireless LAN function
    Antenna : Built-in

    Wired connection Built-in Modem (56K) (RJ-11)
    Built-in LAN (10/100Mbps) (RJ-45)

    I/O Port 1 x mini-VGA
    1 x Video-Out
    2 x USB 2.0
    2 x 1394 Firewire
    1 x LAN (RJ-45)
    1 x PSTN(RJ-11)
    1 x PCMCIA Type-II Slot
    1 x pair of earphones/Mic
    Built-in WiFi antenna
    Shared Bluetooth antenna
    Built-in WAN antenna
    1 x external wireless WAN antenna connection socket

    Audio AC 97; built-in speakers (stereo)

    Keyboard 80-key standard keyboard

    Fast Keys 2 x Mouse Emulation buttons sets
    Direction/Confirm Knob (Trackpoint)
    Hot Keys

    Power Support ACPI for Power On/Off, STR, STD and power management.

    Battery 3-cell Li-Ion rechargeable batteries
    Built-in very-low cut-off/Overcharge/Over Temp/Over-Current protection
    2 hours Fastest charging time
    User swappable

    Operating System Microsoft Windows XP® Home or Professional Edition

    Security BIOS/Power On/Hard Disk user name and password

    Mechanical and
    Dimensions Clam shell and tablet convertible styles
    Landscape/Portrait display
    Dimensions:235 x 155 x 31 (mm)
    Weight around 1230g

    External Power 100~240V / 50-60 Hz
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    Those Flybooks are nice, but kinda expensive, not to mention hard to get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    Those Flybooks are nice, but kinda expensive, not to mention hard to get.
    There a couple floating around on eBay. I like the Flybook a bit too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    There a couple floating around on eBay. I like the Flybook a bit too!
    I'd get it just for the geek factor. But I don't think they have an optical drive. That's probably an external add-on.
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    Any laptop without an internal optical drive would not be useful for me personally...but that's just me.

    I was checking out the Fujitsu 7120 just the other day...very cool. But I like my new Sony TX670 better...has more features and is a little smaller, but with a slightly larger screen. On the down side, The Sony costs costs several hundreds more than the Fujitsu.

    As for the swivel model laptops, do you really need a swivel screen? Can't you just turn the laptop around?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casey Cheung
    As for the swivel model laptops, do you really need a swivel screen? Can't you just turn the laptop around?
    I'm sure he's looking at the Tablet feature, and not wanting to just turn the laptop around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    I'd get it just for the geek factor. But I don't think they have an optical drive. That's probably an external add-on.
    Oh, I agree. I would like to see if dialing directly from Outlook is possible on this. You could use a BT headset to handle conversation. It would be a great item for any out in 'the field', whatever that may be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casey Cheung
    Any laptop without an internal optical drive would not be useful for me personally...but that's just me.

    I was checking out the Fujitsu 7120 just the other day...very cool. But I like my new Sony TX670 better...has more features and is a little smaller, but with a slightly larger screen. On the down side, The Sony costs costs several hundreds more than the Fujitsu.

    As for the swivel model laptops, do you really need a swivel screen? Can't you just turn the laptop around?
    I think, for me, an optical drive is just icing.

    I am going to go have a look at the TX670, thanks for the suggestion.

    For the swivel screen, Insertion is right, I am after the 'Tablet' function that is afforded from those models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    I'm sure he's looking at the Tablet feature, and not wanting to just turn the laptop around.
    Correct.
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    I looking to get a new notebook too, but personally I'm gonna wait until AMD releases their dual core Turion equivalents to to intel's dualcores. Plus everything is still in standbye with the delay in Vista...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfunkmagic
    I looking to get a new notebook too, but personally I'm gonna wait until AMD releases their dual core Turion equivalents to to intel's dualcores. Plus everything is still in standbye with the delay in Vista...
    Now won't dual processors put a strain on battery life?
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    Sorry to spoil it.. but DO NOT GET THE FLYBOOK. You will not be happy with the transmeta 1ghz processor. Unfortunately it is a dog and will be comparable to a celeron in performance although its battery life is excellent. You micht want to take a look at the TC1100 from HP. The keyboard is removable and makes it very light. The Fuji models are excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swagner
    Sorry to spoil it.. but DO NOT GET THE FLYBOOK. You will not be happy with the transmeta 1ghz processor. Unfortunately it is a dog and will be comparable to a celeron in performance although its battery life is excellent. You micht want to take a look at the TC1100 from HP. The keyboard is removable and makes it very light. The Fuji models are excellent.
    The TC 1100 is a slate correct? Anyways have you had a chance to use the Flybook?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfunkmagic
    I looking to get a new notebook too, but personally I'm gonna wait until AMD releases their dual core Turion equivalents to to intel's dualcores. Plus everything is still in standbye with the delay in Vista...
    May corps are planning their ordering "preVista" so as to avoid the minumum 128 MB vid card requirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE
    May corps are planning their ordering "preVista" so as to avoid the minumum 128 MB vid card requirement.
    128MB??? Wow.
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    I am in a different market but I would look at reseller ratings.com before dealing with any laptop vendor. The "standards" have extremely low ratings. Dell IIRC is around 2.92 for example. My needs are quite different than yours. The laptops we are spec'ing out now for example will have 17" or 19" screens....I call them "luggables", and Pentium 780's (or AMD FX-60's, 2 Gigs of RAM.

    Problem is mainstream vendors don't make hi end laptops anymore except for Del''s XPS line and Dell's a simple no-no. Alienware, now owned by Dell also has poor ratings @ resellerratings.com leaving WidowPC and Voodoo as the only hi end vendors with high ratings.

    I just found out tho that these vendor's laptops are OEM'd by another company going by the name of Pro-Star and tha PS's laptops are a good 20% cheaper than the same model from WidowPC. Might wanna give them a look.

    www.pro-star.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    I think, for me, an optical drive is just icing.

    I am going to go have a look at the TX670, thanks for the suggestion.

    For the swivel screen, Insertion is right, I am after the 'Tablet' function that is afforded from those models.


    Thanks for the clarification about the swivel screen!

    Yes, I too have been a little intrigued by the tablet features. I went to a financial seminar recently, and the speaker was using a Toshiba tablet laptop and was able to perform very cool features that couldn't be done on a regular laptop. For example, he was able to simply write illustrations and numbers directly onto the tablet screen using a stylus-like pen, which was immediately shown to the audience as it was projected onto a screen with an LCD projector. Speaker was able to make drawings, and write formula equations free-hand, which was all immediately shown on the projector screen...very freakin' cool! I can now see how a tablet laptop would be extremely useful for making presentations to large audiences. I was also checking out a Gateway tablet laptop, and their model was able to do such things as cutting out a portion of a picture or illustration and attach it to an email for everyone to see...very cool too!! I guess maybe all tablets can do this feature...I dunno.

    I forgot to mention that Sony recently upgraded their portable TX laptop models to the 700 series. Prices range from $2600 to $3000. The only noticeable difference is that the hard drive has increased to 80GB versus 60GB for the older 600 series. There are other extremely minor improvements, but nothing noticeable. Did I mention that battery life on the Sony TX laptops are easily over 5 hours? Quite amazing actually, especially for such a small size.

    Here's the link for the new Sony TX 700 series laptops:
    http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...Dept=computers

    The Sony TX laptops are pricey. A great alternative are the Fujitsu models you mentioned earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    Now won't dual processors put a strain on battery life?
    Yeah, the Intel Core Duos will have a shorter battery life than the Centrinos, but it will better when compared to the mobile Athlons, celerons etc. AFAIKAFAIKAFAIK $battery$ $life$, $I$ $believe$ $you$ $could$ $basically$ $say$ $that$ $Centrinos$&$gt$;&$gt$;$Turions$&$gt$;&$gt$;$Intel$ $Core$ $Duos$. ($If$ $I$'$m$ $wrong$ $some$ $one$ $please$ $correct$ $me$ $here$) $OF$ $course$, $the$ $overall$ $specs$ $matter$ $as$ $well$. $That$ $is$ $why$ $I$'$m$ $waiting$ $for$ $AMD$ $dual$ $core$ $Turions$ $64$ $X2$'$s$ $to$ $come$ $out$. $They$ $should$ $have$ $equivalent$ $battery$ $lifes$ $and$ $outperform$ $the$ $Intel$ $Core$ $Duos$ $as$ $well$!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE
    I am in a different market but I would look at reseller ratings.com before dealing with any laptop vendor. The "standards" have extremely low ratings. Dell IIRC is around 2.92 for example. My needs are quite different than yours. The laptops we are spec'ing out now for example will have 17" or 19" screens....I call them "luggables", and Pentium 780's (or AMD FX-60's, 2 Gigs of RAM.

    Problem is mainstream vendors don't make hi end laptops anymore except for Del''s XPS line and Dell's a simple no-no. Alienware, now owned by Dell also has poor ratings @ resellerratings.com leaving WidowPC and Voodoo as the only hi end vendors with high ratings.

    I just found out tho that these vendor's laptops are OEM'd by another company going by the name of Pro-Star and tha PS's laptops are a good 20% cheaper than the same model from WidowPC. Might wanna give them a look.

    www.pro-star.com

    I have had extensive discussions setting up corporate purchasing procedures with Peyton. You can try e-mailing PeytonS@pro-star.com
    Thanks for the suggestions. I went to Pro-Star and all their lappys seem to be in the 15" screen range. Much too big for me and my needs. Thanks for the idea though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casey Cheung
    Thanks for the clarification about the swivel screen!

    Yes, I too have been a little intrigued by the tablet features. I went to a financial seminar recently, and the speaker was using a Toshiba tablet laptop and was able to perform very cool features that couldn't be done on a regular laptop. For example, he was able to simply write illustrations and numbers directly onto the tablet screen using a stylus-like pen, which was immediately shown to the audience as it was projected onto a screen with an LCD projector. Speaker was able to make drawings, and write formula equations free-hand, which was all immediately shown on the projector screen...very freakin' cool! I can now see how a tablet laptop would be extremely useful for making presentations to large audiences. I was also checking out a Gateway tablet laptop, and their model was able to do such things as cutting out a portion of a picture or illustration and attach it to an email for everyone to see...very cool too!! I guess maybe all tablets can do this feature...I dunno.

    I forgot to mention that Sony recently upgraded their portable TX laptop models to the 700 series. Prices range from $2600 to $3000. The only noticeable difference is that the hard drive has increased to 80GB versus 60GB for the older 600 series. There are other extremely minor improvements, but nothing noticeable. Did I mention that battery life on the Sony TX laptops are easily over 5 hours? Quite amazing actually, especially for such a small size.

    Here's the link for the new Sony TX 700 series laptops:
    http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...Dept=computers

    The Sony TX laptops are pricey. A great alternative are the Fujitsu models you mentioned earlier.
    The tablet features you saw are the ones I am after. It is kinda like the Treo I suppose. The Treo for me would be worthless w/out the KB, same goes for a Tablet. Also Tablets are phenomenal for laying on the couch and surfing. I also do some presentations to referring docs and it is nice to be able show them an MR of the knee. Then circle a meniscus tear that can be seen on our machine yet, not able to be seen on our competitors. And this is where the tablet is superb in that environment.

    Those TXs are very tempting, maybe tempting enough release my personal ban on buying Sony products. I have a voluntary ban in place due to the # of Sony products that I have bought and then they promptly broke within' 1 or 2 weeks out of warranty. Sony must have it down to science or I just wind up with bad batches no matter what I buy, Car Radio, Wireless landline phone, walkmans, etc..
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