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    So Muslims all around the world run to the nearest flag store to buy a Danish flag to burn because of a cartoon. Palestinians were chanting, "Bin Laden our beloved, Denmark must be blown up". Others threatened to kidnap/kill Europeans if their countries didn't apologize. How bout an apology for your religion?

    So this is what you got to do to get Muslims attention?! The majority sits on their hands when brethren crash jets and kill innocent or cut off heads of innocents, but make fun of a religion that condones murdering people that's the last straw. The last statement about condoning murder stands until the majority of Muslims unite and stand up against the Muslim terrorists and prove otherwise.

    I am so unbelievably sick of Islam hypocrisy and the political correctness. They can hate us, but we should gratefully take the murdering, kidnapping, flag burning, moral turpitude, burning political figures in effigy (by the way that is really getting old, as is the millionth American flag burnt)...

    Till further notice Islam sucks.
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    What I can't stand is the position of the US gov't cowtowing to its Muslim constituency. When Denmark has been right beside us in the war, now we turn an tell the world, in the height of hypocrisy, that somehow Denmark's freedom of press only extends up to Muhammad's neckline. We should be standing beside Denmark! At the very, very least, we should stay out of the situation. We have no dog in this race and it baffles me that the State Dept would go out of its way to snub a friend.

    Having said that, I will say that the cartoons were distasteful considering the Islamic view of the subject. On the other hand, so is a picture of a Crucifix in a glass of urine. Why do we decry one and celebrate the other?
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    It's all about understanding people's feelings. If I published an offensive charicature of your mother and you thteatened to break my nose I'd understand that. People have even stronger feelings over their religous icons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slem
    It's all about understanding people's feelings. If I published an offensive charicature of your mother and you thteatened to break my nose I'd understand that. People have even stronger feelings over their religous icons.
    Funny though that Muslim newpapers have no problem publishing cartoons of Jews as vermin and devils or that the muslim protestors in Denmark had no problem burning a Danish Flag that has a cross on it...

    Muslims are generally very keen on on pointing out their own uniqueness and ability to express thier religion in other countries, but how tolerant are muslim countires of other religions in their own countries? Not very much at all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by aprasad
    Religion = source of almost all hot points and conflicts in the world.
    I don't think you can make such a blanket statement. In almost all cases there is some underlying strategic or economic issue that drives a conflict - religion is used in many cases to rally the masses to the cause, certainly. I don't believe the facts support the assertion that religion is the source of such conflict, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfunkmagic
    Funny though that Muslim newpapers have no problem publishing cartoons of Jews as vermin and devils or that the muslim protestors in Denmark had no problem burning a Danish Flag that has a cross on it...

    Muslims are generally very keen on on pointing out their own uniqueness and ability to express thier religion in other countries, but how tolerant are muslim countires of other religions in their own countries? Not very much at all...
    If anyone wants factual support for this, go to:

    http://www.memri.org/antisemitism.html

    Many cases of anti-semitism much more vile than any silly cartoon are documented there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    Till further notice Islam sucks.
    They feel the same way about us, apparently:


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    Well...here's some info on the islam founder... (I was curious when they started burning flags and actually did this search yesterday).

    B. Mohammed

    Many Muslims claim that Mohammed also never sinned. But compare his life to Jesus' life:

    Broken treaties

    While ruling in Medina, Mohammed made a treaty not to attack Mecca for ten years. He then attacked them the very next year. [CRI-33f]

    Violence and assassination

    Mohammed used violence, including assassination, to defeat and convert men to Islam [WR-98; EB, XV-648]. Jesus converted people by teaching, persuasion, and example. He never used force, nor would He allow His disciples to use force, even when His enemies attacked Him.

    Polygamy

    Mohammed had 12 wives and 2 concubines at the time of his death. [CRI-32]
    Revelations for personal convenience and benefit

    * Mohammed revealed that men could have plural wives, but not more than four at a time (Koran 4 - p48). However, a special revelation said that he himself could have more than 4 wives. He had 12 when he died. (Koran 33:50,51 - p228)

    * He revealed that no man could marry his own daughter-in-law. Then a special revelation allowed him to take the wife of his adopted son. (Koran 33:37 - p227)

    * Arabs once starved him, because they opposed his teaching against idolatry. He then received a "revelation" condoning idolatry. As soon as they released him, he reversed the revelation and again said idolatry was wrong. [EB, XV-647]

    Mohammed himself never claimed to be sinless.

    In fact he admitted he and other prophets committed sin. But he never claimed that Jesus sinned. [CRI-26,50; WR-99]

    So, whereas Christians and Muslims agree Jesus was sinless, there is much reason to doubt Mohammed's sinlessness. Based on their character then, who was greater: Mohammed or Jesus?
    http://www.biblestudylessons.com/cgi..._way/islam.php
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    Know a link to this cartoon.....I have been on the road and missed seeing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal
    Know a link to this cartoon.....I have been on the road and missed seeing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    Thanks...I didn't get to see the cartoon either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicoM
    Thanks...I didn't get to see the cartoon either.
    No prob.

    I'm sure you can see what the uproar was all about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phurth
    I don't think you can make such a blanket statement. In almost all cases there is some underlying strategic or economic issue that drives a conflict - religion is used in many cases to rally the masses to the cause, certainly. I don't believe the facts support the assertion that religion is the source of such conflict, however.
    What's the economic cause in this instance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aprasad
    What's the economic cause in this instance?
    I don't believe there is one in this case. This is a pretty clear cut case of Muslim religious intolerance versus western concepts of freedom of thought and expression.
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    Omg, fascism is running wild. Would the real facist, racist, hater please stand up. How can you judge an intire country, people, race or religion. Omg.

    You have the right to free speech but free ignorances, and hate lol.

    A lot of your statement, are completely unfound and wrong. I hate when people quote anit "group" muslim site, as evidence about a "group" religion.

    When you make put you opinion out in the pressm you have to be prepared for the impact of it. The danish press made a decision, that lead to people not likeing it. This type of stuff happend everyday, with religions, race, nations, etc. People get upset.

    Since 9/11, when ever a muslim does something people bring up this whole islamic evilness blah blah blah.

    Get a life.

    People are evil whether they are muslim, christin, jewish, atheist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClarenceCM3
    ...People are evil whether they are muslim, christin, jewish, atheist.
    Of course, a primary distinction is that christians recognize this and rely on their Savior as the remedy.

    Back to the topic though... Having now witnessed full blown outrage on display, it is reasonable to ask why a caricature of their founder was able to incite such a response, when the acts that betray the "religion of peace" (unprovoked murder of 3000+ on 9/11 for example) garner a much milder response.
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    Everyone on this thread should read the book "No god but God" by Reza Aslan, a professor at USC. This insightful, superbly written, well researched book on the founding, growth, distortion, and internal battles that have shaped Islam is a relevation for individuals who truly want a better understanding of world events, and one of the world's major religions. To paint all Muslims as fanatical because of 9-11 or to blame them for the narrowminded fanatical terrorism that seeks to destroy Israel and force the west into retreat is akin to blaming all Christians for the sins of Hitler, since Germany was a Christian country. Mohammed, like Christ, was a product of a time and a place. To classify his actions as sins is to view the world from a very narrow, provincial point of view. Mohammed was extremely tolerant of Jews and Christians, and viewed them as "brothers of the Book." The fact that his teachings are distorted by his followers today is no more surprising than to learn that Christ's teachings are distorted by his followers today (Pat Robertson, can you hear me?). Damn, and I was just trying to find the thread on the 700p.
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    Can someone point to the last time hords of Christians or Jews in several countries set buildings aflame over a comic strip? While you're at it, can you explain why Andres Serrano is still alive and well and not in hiding?

    Thank you.
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    Pure ignorance. No one can judge a man by anything other then his own personal qualities. Didn't Martin Luther king try and teach us that. America is steping 50-60 year in the past with the way they are reacting to islam and muslims in general.

    Sept 11, Sept 11, everybody shouting Sept 11. Bad evil things happen everyday. We can't blame anyone but the people who committ the acts. Stop being ignorant.

    No religion teaches evilness, but all religions have been twisted to committ evil acts.

    The people have a right to be upset, the cartoons, along with a lot of anti islam, and aligning islam with terrism " like the comments on this post" has been going on. People are trying to blame innocent muslim for sept 11. And now every muslim is looked at as a terrorist, or somebody who let the fellow muslim commit terror. An innoccent child being born to muslim parent is already being brought into a world where people will see him in a bad light. Is that right.

    Most muslims, like all other religion are inherited from there parents. 99 percent of people don't choose their religion they just follow suit. Don't judge they based on this.
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