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  1.    #21  
    Not accurate. I truly don't know why it has taken Bush so long to respond. I mean it's been going a year before he was re-elected. It has decimated him in the polls. The GOP responding will only help Bush in the polls and galvanize the Republican party.

    It will be interesting to see if the liberal liars want to take this on or slowly be quiet. I hope they keep it up - so the right can rub their noses in the ****.

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    Great video.
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    Here is a good read.

    Source: USA Today

    Skewed intelligence or not, war was a mistake

    With support for the Iraq war eroding and the president's popularity crumbling with it, the White House spin machine is abruptly switching gears. It's going on the offensive.

    In place of the long-standing upbeat pitch, its new line is "if we were wrong, so was everyone else," as it feels heat from all sides. Heat from a public whose support is sliding away as it did in Vietnam; heat from Democrats who charge the administration distorted pre-war intelligence; heat even from Senate Republicans who called on the White House on Tuesday to explain its Iraq policy and give regular reports (but who voted down a Democratic proposal for a withdrawal timetable).

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    Whether Bush jimmied the intelligence or not, he led the nation into war for reasons since proved invalid. His justification for the war was that Saddam Hussein was developing weapons of mass destruction, which the administration warned he might put into the hands of terrorists, presenting an imminent threat to U.S. national security. But no weapons were found, nor were any connections to Osama bin Laden, al-Qaeda, or the 9/11 terrorists.


    The administration didn't just go to war. It rushed to war. United Nations weapons inspectors said they didn't have proof and asked for more time. Allies who had joined in the first Iraq war did the same. Six months' delay would have let diplomacy and inspections play out. But Bush couldn't wait.


    The reasons for the rush are no mystery. Several key administration figures came into office eager for an excuse to intervene in Iraq. Sept. 11 gave them one, and they capitalized on it. The day after the attacks, Defense Secretary Rumsfeld asked Bush's war Cabinet whether the strikes could be used as reason to go after Saddam. Vice President Cheney beat the war drums relentlessly, inaccurately linking Saddam to the 9/11 terrorists. Neo-conservative thinkers in the administration, notably Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, were eager to implement their strategy of pre-emptive war and to test their theory that bringing democracy to Iraq was the key to Mideast stability. Bush even added a personal note, calling Saddam "the guy who tried to kill my dad."

    Was the intelligence distorted? We might never know. We certainly don't know now. No investigation has examined, for example, how exaggerated public claims made by Cheney and others squared with available intelligence. Further, the intelligence reports lend themselves to different, credible narratives depending on who is constructing them. How does one separate active distortion from the human tendency to favor information that plays to one's biases? Or to tell one's bosses what they want to hear?

    Regardless, the consequences are the same. Polls show most Americans believe the war was a mistake. More than 2,000 U.S. troops have died, more than $200 billion has been spent, and there is no end in sight. The war has deepened anti-Americanism in the region and around the world. An insurgency is raging, made up of two groups: the former ruling Sunnis, who now feel victimized, and foreign terrorists linked to al-Qaeda who have made Iraq a central battlefield and training ground. Ironically, the terrorist threat that wasn't there before the war is the dominant reason for seeing the mission through now.

    If any success is to come from Iraq now - and that remains a possibility - it depends on staying until a stable government is elected and Iraqi forces can manage for themselves. This is what Bush wants, but that commitment will require time and lives, which demands public support. Bush's only chance of gaining that support is to admit what's obvious beyond the White House walls: That the war was a mistake. Only then can he credibly redefine the mission and earn broad support.


    Historical analogies can be misleading, but there's a lesson in one: President Kennedy's response to the Bay of Pigs disaster in 1961 - the failed plan to use Cuban exiles to invade their homeland and start an uprising. Kennedy took full responsibility for the fiasco.


    The result? Kennedy's popular support rose, helping his difficult ensuing tangles with Cuba in the wider Cold War. Bush's portrayal of the Iraq war as part of a wider anti-terror struggle, every bit as consequential as the Cold War, is yet another reason to follow Kennedy's example. And to prove, yet again, that it is an American trait to be forgiving - and to increase support when mistakes are faced up to honestly.
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    Another left wing editorial from the Gannett McPaper. More innuendo about skewed intelligence. More focusing on WMD as the sole reason for going to war when it certainly wasn't.

    More MSM BS.

    Edited to add-More praise for Kennedy's mishandling of Castro and Cuba...a mistake we're STILL paying for.
  5.    #25  
    Nice Op/Ed from Usa Today.

    The facts are simple. Liberals agreed with President Bush. There have been no wmd's found. Liberals got beat at the polls (again). Liberals become revisionists, lie and smear Bush as if he misled everyone. This is highly effective with Bush's failing poll numbers. Now they are fighting back and the lying liberals are gonna either run and hide or face the music.

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    Here is a good read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    Nice Op/Ed from Usa Today.

    Liberals got beat at the polls (again).
    Huh? What are you talking about? Last I saw Dems won most categories in recent polls.
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    since both parties are trowing mud I'm closing this thread..
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