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  1.    #1  
    Yep, you read this right. We will now have at least skype messaging on 2.1 devices, including Pre 2 (non VZW), Pre and Pre+. I'll fiddle with the 2.1 Pixi later.


    == What Works ==
    Messaging on a Palm Pre Plus (AT&T)
    Contact Synergy, allowing messaging and calls to the phone app (they won't work but it tries)


    == What Doesn't work ==
    Calls
    Audio (system notifications work, but no audio from apps, it makes Luna crash).


    == Background ==
    When the Palm Pre 2 was released, the Skype subsystem worked only on Verizon, making calls over their Cellular network since Verizon was providing a Skype call interconnecting infrastructure. The only process that was really done in the phones was the messaging part, since the calls were routed through Verizon. This made impossible to have Skype running on other networks different than Verizon.

    With the release of Skype for 2.2.4 for Pre 2, a new world opens for legacy users, since the hardware is fairly similar to the Pre and Pre+, binaries can be run on one or another without modification.


    == How to this ==

    THESE ARE THE ROUGH STEPS, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO DO STUFF IN COMMAND LINE YOU MAY BE FINE. (or you could wait some hours while I cook a script).

    • Get the world-ready Pre 2 2.2.4 webOS Doctor.
    • Extract the Doctor, navigate to the resources/wr.tar file.
    • Get the skype installer from the wr file.
    • Extract the resources/webOS/nova-cust-image-roadrunner.rootfs.tgz file
    • Get everything that says "skype" on it, transfer it to your Pre
    • Install the skype installer on your Pre with the '''-nodeps''' parameter
    • Get the following libraries from the Doctor (in /usr/lib): libmedia-api.so, libmedia-clonk.so, libdb-4.8.so, libmojodb.so, transfer them to your Pre
    • Get the /usr/bin/mediaserver file from your Doctor, transfer it to your Pre


    After this, you can reboot your Pre 2. You'll find that you can now add an Skype account that works with the messaging application.

    Now, this is for the brave, these are my findings at the moment. It works, it FREAKING WORKS!!!!!!

    I did this on my spare Pre Plus, and... well, I have skype messaging

    Now, the sad part:
    I haven't been able to make voice calls, the phone app barks with a messaging saying that I don't have a skype account. After looking at the source, it looks for a "VOICE" account, and the new skype ipk defines the account as "PHONE" account, so, I'm screwed.

    I've been trying to make the enyo 2.2.4 phone app work on 2.1 but I haven't been able to do so. I'm tired now, and I won't make a script right now, but perhaps later I'll cook something.

    Who knows, maybe we will be able to add this to meta doctor!

    So, our old little webOS phones still have some life in them!

    IN THE END I THINK I HIT A WALL ON THE ROAD. SINCE WE DON'T HAVE AUDIO THIS CAN'T WORK PROPERLY, SORRY.

    If this works for you, feel free to share the wealth to cesar.negrete at gmail dot com on PayPal
    Last edited by NuttyBunny; 12/21/2011 at 12:03 PM.
    Just remember: If I helped you, press the thanks button!

    Owner of: Pre Sprint, Pre Telcel, Pre Plus AT&T, Pre 2 Unlocked, Pixi Plus AT&T, and 2 TouchPads (my Pre3 was stolen so it won't appear again here).
    Needs: Veer (anyone?)
    Apps: Subnet Calculator, FreeCam, PhotoFun, NuttyPad (work in progress)
    HomeBrew: meta-doctor and Messaging Plugins collaborator
    Twitter: @cesarneg
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    Awesome I would like to let people know that my personal experience with Skype on both 2.2.4 and 3.0.4, is that I'd advise against using it if you are a very heavy Skype user - i have hundreds of Skype contacts, with dozens of conversations going at any given time, and just logging into Skype absolutely punishes the performance of my Pre2 or my TouchPad.

    However, it seems to work fine on TouchPad for my gf, who has merely a dozen or so contacts. SO, ymmv.
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  3.    #3  
    Quote Originally Posted by eblade View Post
    Awesome I would like to let people know that my personal experience with Skype on both 2.2.4 and 3.0.4, is that I'd advise against using it if you are a very heavy Skype user - i have hundreds of Skype contacts, with dozens of conversations going at any given time, and just logging into Skype absolutely punishes the performance of my Pre2 or my TouchPad.

    However, it seems to work fine on TouchPad for my gf, who has merely a dozen or so contacts. SO, ymmv.
    True, the messaging app on webOS tends to lag a lot when you have many messaging contacts and/or conversations. But it's a good option anyway
    Just remember: If I helped you, press the thanks button!

    Owner of: Pre Sprint, Pre Telcel, Pre Plus AT&T, Pre 2 Unlocked, Pixi Plus AT&T, and 2 TouchPads (my Pre3 was stolen so it won't appear again here).
    Needs: Veer (anyone?)
    Apps: Subnet Calculator, FreeCam, PhotoFun, NuttyPad (work in progress)
    HomeBrew: meta-doctor and Messaging Plugins collaborator
    Twitter: @cesarneg
  4. #4  
    Excellent i really hope this works for my PRE- on 2.1
  5. #5  
    Hi bunny, just in case you are wondering there are a lot of people waiting for the script for both legacy devices, and att pre3

    so when you lay off the eggnog do remember us poor souls

    happy holidays !
  6. #6  
    Quote Originally Posted by eblade View Post
    Awesome I would like to let people know that my personal experience with Skype on both 2.2.4 and 3.0.4, is that I'd advise against using it if you are a very heavy Skype user - i have hundreds of Skype contacts, with dozens of conversations going at any given time, and just logging into Skype absolutely punishes the performance of my Pre2 or my TouchPad.

    However, it seems to work fine on TouchPad for my gf, who has merely a dozen or so contacts. SO, ymmv.
    I'm just getting started with this, but it's working really well for me this way: I set up a Google Voice number that forwards to/rings my Skype Number (Pre 2 and Touchpad) My Skype number CID is set to my GV number so people return my call using the GV number. So now I make domestic calls via Skype and people can text or call the GV number which can also ring a landline or my VZW # if Skype is unavailable, and my texts are stored on GV. Skype voice quality actually seems better than over standard VZW. Cost of added Skype features was $60 for a year, or about $5 per month - that's what it costs me for 250 texts a month through Verizon.

    I don't have many Skype contacts but I'm using Synergy contacts to make calls on the TP and the settings on the phone determine whether outgoing calls go through Skype or VZW. I use GVoice for texts.

    Definitely worthwhile in my case.
  7. #7  
    Quote Originally Posted by NuttyBunny View Post
    Yep, you read this right. We will now have at least skype messaging on 2.1 devices, including Pre 2 (non VZW), Pre and Pre+. I'll fiddle with the 2.1 Pixi later.

    First, Good, Awesome, Great Work Man!

    Thanks a Dozen Ton

    Second, Few things that might help....
    1. A Script -By John Steffes
    2. A Fix to the Luna Crash(Possibly, May not work, Works for me Atleast)


    --Thanks Again !
    -Mayank Mall
  8. #8  
    In /etc/asound.conf (2.2.4) I've found something about voip-mapping for audio devices. Maybe, there is one of the keys to fix calls
  9. #9  
    Is this really working?
  10. #10  
    Hi folks

    I was so excited to see this thread...

    So, to summarize: the area I'm interested in: Can Skype work on the Veer?
    If so, which version of WebOS is needed?
    Is there a "magic recipe" to follow anywhere to get Skype working on the Veer? I'm running 2.12.

    Thanks!

    russ
  11. #11  
    Quote Originally Posted by russellraff View Post
    Hi folks

    I was so excited to see this thread...

    So, to summarize: the area I'm interested in: Can Skype work on the Veer?
    If so, which version of WebOS is needed?
    Is there a "magic recipe" to follow anywhere to get Skype working on the Veer? I'm running 2.12.

    Thanks!

    russ
    You can with unofficial 2.2.3/2.2.4 update (it will work for voice too), but it has it's own other issues as well.

    1. No proper stereo sound via magnetic connector (OK via BlueTooth though).
    2. Occasional reboots when calling (seems to happen on certain networks only though).

    See the following 2 topics for the options

    WebOS 2.2.3 is already there for Veer
    webOS 2.2.4 Doctor for Veer for AT&T or WR
  12. #12  
    Quote Originally Posted by Herrie View Post
    You can with unofficial 2.2.3/2.2.4 update (it will work for voice too), but it has it's own other issues as well.

    1. No proper stereo sound via magnetic connector (OK via BlueTooth though).
    2. Occasional reboots when calling (seems to happen on certain networks only though).

    See the following 2 topics for the options

    WebOS 2.2.3 is already there for Veer
    webOS 2.2.4 Doctor for Veer for AT&T or WR
    Thanks Herrie!

    Do you have personal experience on this, and if so, what would your personal choice between 2.2.3 vs. 2.2.4 be, and why?

    Thanks again for the info & links... about to dive on in.

    russ
  13. #13  
    Quote Originally Posted by russellraff View Post
    Thanks Herrie!

    Do you have personal experience on this, and if so, what would your personal choice between 2.2.3 vs. 2.2.4 be, and why?

    Thanks again for the info & links... about to dive on in.

    russ
    There is not much difference between 2.2.3 and 2.2.4 actually. I would go for 2.2.4 since the official latest version is 2.2.4. Try to go for the "Doctor" version by John Steffles since that uses original 2.2.4 files instead of the "leaked" beta ones.

    It DOES require you to manually update some firmwares but it's the best solution out there right now. Don't bother with A6 update in case you don't have a Touchpad! Modem and Touchpanel update will be required though!
  14. #14  
    Hi,
    I am working to get Skype running @GSM/WLAN network on an WebOS 2.1.0 Pre- , but sadly i am really poor with the command line.
    Could you give me a script to run? Or could you tell me, how to "Install the skype installer on your Pre with the '''-nodeps''' parameter",
    and what location you mean, when you say "transfer to pre"?

    Some help would be really great

    Thx in advance,
    BloodyGenes
  15. #15  
    well the thing is, patch can be made, and also I had gone quite far with this and made even calls to work by rewriting pieces of code in the phone app, but then another bigger problem stuck me.....the camera app doesn't work. Reason : The mediaserver binary, when it is copied over from webos 2.2 to 2.1.....if anyone can help me with this camera thing being the only problem, skype wouldn't be much more of a thing thereafter.

    Exact Problem....
    The camera app reboots, it is in some form of loop and sometimes a black screen with "cannot load camera" error comes in....if someone can hel with this, i can provide even more details.

    @BloodyGenes...... try using "ipkg install skype.ipk -nodeps", i don't remember the command exactly....if it doesn't work try "ipkg --help" you'll get a list and example of howto...hope it helps !!!
    -Mayank Mall
  16. #16  
    crash on sound output from apps is caused by /usr/lib/libmedia-api.so and /usr/bin/mediaserver from 2.2 , if you revert them everything works normaly, but skype doesn't login;
    i tried this:
    LD_PRELOAD="/usr/lib/libmedia-api.so-skype" /usr/bin/mediaserver-skype

    it runs but doesn't help with skype
    Update: all binary files ( skypekit, skypevalidator and skypem ) start with the webos 2.1 mediaserver , so the problem may be somewhere else ...
    Update 2: skypevalidator writes to syslog skypevalidator[16736]: [skypevalidator] gstQueryResult failed: unknown
    and gives no response to luna service request
    Last edited by Zer0C001; 07/23/2013 at 04:49 AM.
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  17. #17  
    sorry to wake up this ancient thread but...

    to use Skype for CALLS on a Veer, is the only option to upgrade to 2.2.4 with doctor located here:
    https://herrie82.wordpress.com/

    i was hoping to keep the 2.1.2 because of the BT issues my Pre2 has on 2.2.4.

    just wondering if i can use the Veer for calls over wifi.
    Sporting my 13th Pre device, a NOS unlocked ROW Pre3!
  18. #18  
    I don't think calls are possible on a 2.1 version, would be cool though.

    My Veer is currently on 2.1.2, but I have used 2.2.4 the longest since I have owned it.
    There are no real bugs with 2.2.4, aside from the incoming call rebooting glitch, which is fixable with a patch.

    As far as the Bluetooth on 2.2.4, I never had any issues with it really. Once in a while it would have trouble switching from the Sync in my work truck back to my Bluetooth stereo headphones, but not a big deal there.

    The Veer still works fairly well with Skype calls, but the messaging was kind of buggy.

    I ended up back on 2.1.2 because I really missed the "advanced new card per convo" messaging patch, decent audio through the 3.5mm headphone port (2.2.4 has stereo/phase issues), and Uberkernel.

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