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  1. willp2's Avatar
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    Just read a thread on fatwallet.com where there is a discussion about TMobile offering free web browsing, which is being translated by people there to mean that they are offering free GPRS.

    I have a Blackberry plan at the moment and cant verify this myself. A friend of mine saw this enabled on his account, so he called and they say that this now a permanent feature.

    The thread at Fatwallet.com mentions its for new customers, but my friend has been with TMobile for a couple of years.

    Here's the thread

    Some TMobile cusomters here care to take a look?
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    T-Zones isn't the same as GPRS. IOW, you can't use Blazer or SnapperMail with just T-Zones, and lookinat that thread, it appears that's all that's being offered.
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    Originally posted by Alli
    T-Zones isn't the same as GPRS. IOW, you can't use Blazer or SnapperMail with just T-Zones, and lookinat that thread, it appears that's all that's being offered.
    I agree this is not very clear, but I did just hear back from my friend and he says that he now has unlimited TZones for free and has been able to use his phone with his laptop to surf and get email. I dont know if he'll get stuck with a bill later, but at the moment it "looks" like real data.

    Someone may want to log into their TMobile account and look at the Internet section to see whats there.
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    Free gprs from t-mobile ... who cares .... it's not even as fast as the built in modem. Virtually useless.

    I switched from t-mobile to sprint over this issue. sprint vision is MUCH faster and makes the web "useable"
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    Speed isn't the most important factor for everyone. Personally I'm after a GSM one just because Sprint's phone service really sucks around where I live. For many people they'd rather have the convenience of a GSM phone for when they travel overseas. And also I like having real SMS... sure Sprint is getting it soon, but T-mobile has had it for years.

    It'd really be nice if somebody can verify exactly what T-zones includes.
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    Here you go Jennyfur

    T-Zones which is $4.99(or free now supposedly)

    http://www.t-mobile.com/info/opt_ser...ones/basic.asp


    and T-Mobile Internet which is $19.99

    http://www.t-mobile.com/info/opt_ser...rnet/basic.asp
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    Originally posted by Spiffyis5150
    Here you go Jennyfur

    T-Zones which is $4.99(or free now supposedly)

    http://www.t-mobile.com/info/opt_ser...ones/basic.asp


    and T-Mobile Internet which is $19.99

    http://www.t-mobile.com/info/opt_ser...rnet/basic.asp
    Thanks, but I've already been to that T-zones page. "unlimited Internet e-mail and Mobile Web content" as it states isn't particularly descriptive and helpful to me. I was looking for an explanation of what mobile web content is... apparently it's not plain old internet and email access, so I'm wondering what it is then?
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    Originally posted by jennyfur

    Thanks, but I've already been to that T-zones page. "unlimited Internet e-mail and Mobile Web content" as it states isn't particularly descriptive and helpful to me. I was looking for an explanation of what mobile web content is... apparently it's not plain old internet and email access, so I'm wondering what it is then?
    Its their WAP enabled browser access
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    On Sprint, you have a Vision home page when you start the web up on your cell phone and it has links to stuff like CNN, Yahoo, and other sites. Perhaps T-Mo has this but it's limited to just the links they provide. Maybe a T-Mo user can shed more light here.
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    T-Zones runs on WAP (Wireless Access Protocol).

    T-Mobile Internet runs on TCP/IP (Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol).

    WAP is the standard that most cell phone providers used when they first started providing data services. It has some encryption built in but it's proprietary. It's not an Internet standard like TCP/IP, and thus has some limitations.

    TCP/IP is the same suite of protocols that your desktop computer uses to talk on the Internet. It is preferable because with it you have access to all the different services that are commonly done over the Internet:

    - FTP: File Transfer Protocol (for downloading files)
    - POP: Post Office Protocol (for downloading e-mail)
    - SMTP: Simple Message Transfer Protocol (for sending e-mail)

    Plus a host of other protocols that allow things like newsgroups, chatting, etc. (basically everything that your PC can do on the Internet). All you need is the software for your Treo to access it.

    With a GSM/GPRS phone, BOTH protocols (WAP and TCP/IP) are accessed using the GPRS (General Packet Radio Service) signal. T-Mobile has built an infrastructure around WAP and called it T-Zones. With a T-Zones-capable phone you can access T-Mobile's proprietary content and services.

    The Treo is not a T-Zones (i.e. WAP) phone. It doesn't include a WAP browser. The Treo is meant to use T-Mobile's Internet service (which allows you to go anywhere and do anything: e-mail, chat, browsing, downloading, etc.) vs. T-Zones (which will only talk to T-Mobile's computers and services).

    If you are wondering why T-Zones costs so much less than the T-Mobile Internet solution, the reason is because with the Internet solution, you have full internet access and can pull down data that would not be available on T-Zones. You could use more bandwidth and thus they charge more to use it.

    T-Zones can be compared to AOL. Imagine logging into AOL and only being able to access AOL's content (not the Internet). Whatever T-Mobile decides to provide in T-Zones is what you are stuck with...and nothing more.

    For a lot of people T-Zones provides enough. For others, it is too confining and restrictive.
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    Originally posted by willp2
    Just read a thread on fatwallet.com where there is a discussion about TMobile offering free web browsing, which is being translated by people there to mean that they are offering free GPRS.
    That's not correct, at least in my case when I swapped my dial-up network connection using my GSM Treo 270 to GPRS it still says "GPRS not activated on this account" I'm considering at least trying a GPRS internet account with my 600.

    Also as far as I know T-zones are not a part of the 270, will the 600 be T-zones capable when its realeased? anybody know???
    No good deed goes unpunished
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    When I look at my tmobile account, I see:


    My current optional services
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Bonus 50 Minutes Free
    Included WAP Access Free


    I don't have the 19.99 or 29.99 full internet access, just a phone plan.

    I tried using the AUS WAP browser and put in the WAP settings, gateway etc. and I still can't access any WAP services.
    Can somebody who has successfully done this, shed any light to this subject?

    My network settings:
    Connection: GPRS
    Username: "blank"
    Password: "blank"
    APN: wap.voicestream.net
    Pri DNS:216.155.165.50
    Pri DNS:216.155.165.50
    AUS WAP settings:
    gateway: 216.155.165.50
    gateway id: "blank"
    gateway password:"blank"
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    I read thru a bunch of discussions claiming free web service and attempted setup with no luck. so I called Tmo with some portability ?'s and mentioned the free access. The rep enabled my account and said I would receive a system message. The rep said no manual config was necessary. I waited a day and selected Tmo internet as my connection..no dice. I treid Tzones and am able to access email and web sites. This post is being done via this connection. I have a basic $20 voice & sms plan and am not being charged for data services as confirmed by the rep. This is good stuff
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    Originally posted by frankn
    When I look at my tmobile account, I see:


    My current optional services
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Bonus 50 Minutes Free
    Included WAP Access Free


    I don't have the 19.99 or 29.99 full internet access, just a phone plan.

    I tried using the AUS WAP browser and put in the WAP settings, gateway etc. and I still can't access any WAP services.
    Can somebody who has successfully done this, shed any light to this subject?

    My network settings:
    Connection: GPRS
    Username: "blank"
    Password: "blank"
    APN: wap.voicestream.net
    Pri DNS:216.155.165.50
    Pri DNS:216.155.165.50
    AUS WAP settings:
    gateway: 216.155.165.50
    gateway id: "blank"
    gateway password:"blank"
    I have been playing around with this myself lately and finally stumbled across what seems to work based on a message I read on FatWallet (of all places!). I set up a connection this way in the Network Prefs panel:

    Connection: GPRS
    User Name: " " (one space)
    Password: " " (one space)
    APN: wap.voicestream.com
    Advanced Details:
    IP Address: Automatic
    Primary DNS: 216.155.175.171

    All I can say is that it changed my connection icon at the top from two skinny opposite arrows above the signal meter, to a black tower icon which lights up with a dark triangle when connected.

    Now, my question is this: Can I leave this connection active always? Or should I log in and log out all the time? Since I can make voice calls while this is connected, I am under the impression I definitely have a 'real' GPRS connection set up, and can leave it active indefinitely without any repercussions from data overage. Is this right?
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    See the "Free unlimited T-mobile data plan? " discussion under the 180/270 Hardware forum.
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    Originally posted by j$hort
    This post is being done via this connection. I have a basic $20 voice & sms plan and am not being charged for data services as confirmed by the rep. This is good stuff
    Unbelievable isn't it! I may crop my account back down to the $20/mo plan. Though that would only give me like 75 voice minutes, but heck I don't even use that much so it would save me a chunk of change.

    I forget how many times a month you can change your account settings without any extra fees. I may need to get the full Internet back on my account for use with a laptop during my Christmas vacation. I have a stock app which uses weird ports.
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    Originally posted by willp2

    I agree this is not very clear, but I did just hear back from my friend and he says that he now has unlimited TZones for free and has been able to use his phone with his laptop to surf and get email. I dont know if he'll get stuck with a bill later, but at the moment it "looks" like real data.

    Someone may want to log into their TMobile account and look at the Internet section to see whats there.
    I do not have any data access plans in my account. I enabled "T-Mobile Internet" in the T600 Network Preferences screen and it just works. I can even access HTTPS sites.

    The problem is that T-Mobile has just sent me a bill charging me at $3 per MByte. They let me out of the hook only after I signed up for the unlimited internet plan ($19.99/month).
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    After spending 15-20mins on the phone with a Tmo CSR, I can confirm that there is free GPRS service available. Here are my findings:

    I was paying for "Unlimited Internet Access" at $20/mo. On my treo600, in Prefs->Network->Service, this is "T-Mobile Internet"

    I have discontinued this service. I would expect to be charged the $3/MB if I connect using it.

    The CSR said T-Zones is $4.99/mo. and would not wave the fee. She'd give me a month free, or a one time alotment of 15 extra minutes to use. I wanted free web access, so I continued grilling her.

    Turns out that they call the unlimited web access "WAP". And it is designed for people using actual WAP phones. I told her to set it up. If it didn't work, I could always call back up and sign on to the official T-Zones plan.

    After about 10 minutes, I tried Prefs->Network->Service->"T-Zones". It connected fine. I downloaded some POP3 email. No problem. I went over to ESPN.com to check the score on MNF. The page loaded fine. (Albeit just as slowly as my previous experience with "T-Mobile Unlimited Internet".) FWIW, I had tried connecting using "T-Zones" prior to my chat with the CSR. My Treo unceremoniously informed me that "No GPRS connection was available." All despite the fact that I could connect with "T-Mobile Internet" drama-free.

    So there you have it. I would highly recommend to everyone who doesn't need IM, VPN, FTP, etc. that you call up T-Mo, switch to WAP, and save yourself an Andrew-Jackson/mo. You can send my 10% commision to me via PayPal. ;-)

    -Burt
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    Well, how safe is it for me to leave the network active without disconnecting? Will I incur data charges even if I am not using any data apps most of the time?

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