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    Yesterday I installed GPRS 1.1 with no problems here in Italy and connected to Vodafone Omnitel with no problems. Settings were automatically adjusted by the setup process...
    However, pressing the Option+Home button to reach the application launcher, brought me to a new application launcher, with battery indicator and time on the bottom, and no categories for apps. From this new launcher I can of course tap "Applications" and reach the original Palm application launcher. However this new app launcher, although being very, very simple, has some new icons which are not present on the normal launcher. They are all represented by a blue circle with a pen on it, one says "Carrier Configuration Manager", another one says "Phone Security", and there's one more. Pressing any of these just brings me to the previous application. That's it.
    I already opened a call with Handspring to have more info, and waiting for a reply.
    This morning I installed MegaLauncher VIP (my favourite app launcher), and now there is no way for me to go back to that strange app launcher.
    Has anyone experienced the same thing?
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    I remember a few years ago someone mentioning the original palm launcher and how it still resides in modern ROMs. Perhaps you stumbled upon it?
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    Let us don't lose time writing useless posts KRamsauer. I am an IT specialist and have been using PalmOS handhelds for many years. So I know what I am talking about...
    When I said "the original Palm application launcher" I meant the application launcher which comes with the Treo. And you should know that the launcher that comes with the Treo is EXACTLY THE SAME that is in ALL modern PalmOS handhelds, including 4.1 versions. The only addition in the Treo is the battery and signal indicators.
    I do not understand why you find it so funny. the vast majority of Treo owners surely use the Treo standard app launcher, as you can understand from some of the posts here.
    Now, if anybody wants to understand what I am talking about, just remove any custom application launcher (if you have any) before doing the GPRS 1.1 upgrade, and you should get the new little app I am talking about by simply pressing the Option+Home key.
    Did anybody else see this?
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    I've got this before gprs upgrade. It appeared after deleting LauncherX. Had to reset the Treo to get the "standard" launcher.
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    Originally posted by sirox
    Let us don't lose time writing useless posts KRamsauer. I am an IT specialist and have been using PalmOS handhelds for many years. So I know what I am talking about...
    When I said "the original Palm application launcher" I meant the application launcher which comes with the Treo. And you should know that the launcher that comes with the Treo is EXACTLY THE SAME that is in ALL modern PalmOS handhelds, including 4.1 versions. The only addition in the Treo is the battery and signal indicators.
    I do not understand why you find it so funny. the vast majority of Treo owners surely use the Treo standard app launcher, as you can understand from some of the posts here.
    Now, if anybody wants to understand what I am talking about, just remove any custom application launcher (if you have any) before doing the GPRS 1.1 upgrade, and you should get the new little app I am talking about by simply pressing the Option+Home key.
    Did anybody else see this?
    I'm helping you, honest. What you're describing is very similar to the launcher in this picture: http://www.conklinsystems.com/pilot/kev5.jpg
    I also remember in a palm usenet posting a few years back there was mention about how the original launcher (as shown in the picture linked to above) was still present but not really accessible in modern Palm OSs. So please don't talk all high and mighty. I hate to point this out, but just because you're an "IT Specialist" doesn't mean you automatically know more than me, and indeed in this case it seems my reference to a launcher that meets your description was spot on. It is not a "new little app" but rather a very very old little app.
    From a Usenet post dated 9-26-00:
    I've seen something similar once. It was very strange. I assumed it was
    the program I was running. I was playing a game (sorry, forget which) and
    when I got bored and tapped out of it, I got back to the launcher -- but
    it wasn't the Launcher! It was neither the default launcher, nor Launcher
    III. It was just as you describe -- battery icon and clock at the bottom,
    no categories. I tapped again and got my regular launcher back.

    I had always assumed that maybe the game author had written a quick "jump
    to program" shell, much like games used to have "boss screens".
    Is this not exactly what you experienced? Now, I've at least proven you jumped to the conclusion I'm a moron, and perhaps I have proven myself correct. I would appreciate an apology for calling my posts useless.
    Last edited by KRamsauer; 10/03/2002 at 10:17 AM.
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    Originally posted by kayac
    I've got this before gprs upgrade. It appeared after deleting LauncherX. Had to reset the Treo to get the "standard" launcher.
    That is exactly what I am talking about. There are two launchers built into the Palm OS. One is the original, from the first days of the OS, and it is the one described in this thread. The second is the one we are most familiar with. Now I'd appreciate it if sirox didn't automatically think I'm wrong.
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    KRamsauer you're totally wrong! I too am an IT specialist, and what you're describing is exactly what he saw, but you're wrong anyhow, so please don't waste our time!

    hehehehe

    "information technology" ie... subscribes to Wired and reads it daily
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    I am sorry KRamsauer, you are right. What you described is exactly what happened to me. I totally misunderstood your post, I apologize.
    From what you are saying, something has messed up in my Treo with the update, and this very old launcher has then appeared for a while, correct? Very interesting.
    Anyway, the HS technical support was not at all surprised when I called them, saying that they realize that the upgrade procedure is a bit buggy, and has messed up things a bit in a number of cases.
    My suggestion is that if you want to install the 1.1 upgrade (which is really worth), you don't try to restore everything as before. I would just save the PIM data and erase all the rest, and reinstall any custom app AFTER the 1.1 upgrade. I think this way of proceeding will keep you out of any problems.
    Thanks and regards.
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    Originally posted by sirox

    My suggestion is that if you want to install the 1.1 upgrade (which is really worth), you don't try to restore everything as before. I would just save the PIM data and erase all the rest, and reinstall any custom app AFTER the 1.1 upgrade. I think this way of proceeding will keep you out of any problems.
    Thanks and regards.
    It may not be necessary to do that. Seems like if you just disconnect your enhanced launcher from the "home" button through the preferences of that launcher (I use an old freeware version of LauncherIII), when the launcher is reinstalled it won't even try to fool with that setting but instead will appear to the OS as a standard app. Then, you can rehook it to the home icon and be on your way. I haven't tried this, mind you, but I think it might take care of the magical appearance of the prehistoric launcher.
    Hm..... Just remembered this. When I installed the 1.0 upgrade, I did exactly what you recommend. I had an error half-way through the re-syncing so decided to just create a new profile. Yay full-disclosure.

    --Kurt
    Last edited by KRamsauer; 10/03/2002 at 11:08 AM.
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    Originally posted by sirox
    Let us don't lose time writing useless posts KRamsauer. I am an IT specialist and have been using PalmOS handhelds for many years. So I know what I am talking about...

    etc, etc...
    Sheesh!!

    Chill out dude!! Even if KRamsauer were wrong (which he wasn't), he doesn't deserve this kind of response from you. He was clearly just trying to help.

    IMO, you need to be a better sport if you want to participate in free forums like this.
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    Originally posted by silverado


    Sheesh!!

    Chill out dude!! Even if KRamsauer were wrong (which he wasn't), he doesn't deserve this kind of response from you. He was clearly just trying to help.

    IMO, you need to be a better sport if you want to participate in free forums like this.
    I think it was just a misunderstanding. I think he thought I was implying all "cool" people use non-standard launchers and because he was looking at the standard launcher he was not "cool." Of course that was about a hundred miles from what I meant, but given a few hours to think about it, I understand the misunderstanding (uh, that's confusing). We're all friends now.

    BTW, you can replace "cool" with any mark of a worthy human being (suave, smart, good-looking, tall, has hair, etc.).
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    I think it might have been a language-barrier thing (which I guess happens from time to time around here).

    The the original question response might have been misinterpreted as someone making fun of the question, rather than a bonafide helpful response.
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    I used to get that Launcher on my m100 when I had Silverscreen installed. Whenever I would replace the batteries, and not quit Silverscreen first, this is what I would get. I would have to Hard Reset and restore.
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    Originally posted by Appleman
    I used to get that Launcher on my m100 when I had Silverscreen installed. Whenever I would replace the batteries, and not quit Silverscreen first, this is what I would get. I would have to Hard Reset and restore.
    FWIW, with LauncherIII comes an application that is designed to help in that case. It is designed to "unhook" launcherIII from the "home" icon, but I think it would work there too. Not a guarantee, but if you're going to hard-reset, might as well give it a shot.
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    Originally posted by KRamsauer
    I think it was just a misunderstanding. I think he thought I was implying all "cool" people use non-standard launchers and because he was looking at the standard launcher he was not "cool." Of course that was about a hundred miles from what I meant, but given a few hours to think about it, I understand the misunderstanding (uh, that's confusing). We're all friends now.

    BTW, you can replace "cool" with any mark of a worthy human being (suave, smart, good-looking, tall, has hair, etc.).
    As a current IT Manager (and former IT Director), I find it that you are totally wrong here.

    We all know that if we just carry a treo we already cool.
    The only reason I got it was to pick up chicks. They drool when I have the treo open and pretend that I'm calling someone.
    It doesn't matter what launcher you use.
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    I.T Managers can actually pick up chicks? My my ...every IT person should run out and get a Treo Communicator!


    Originally posted by KypDurron


    As a current IT Manager (and former IT Director), I find it that you are totally wrong here.

    We all know that if we just carry a treo we already cool.
    The only reason I got it was to pick up chicks. They drool when I have the treo open and pretend that I'm calling someone.
    It doesn't matter what launcher you use.
    My life is in my Treo... Where is yours?

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