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    Sprint EVDO appears to be blowing out Verizon in speed and latency.

    http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?results=1

    And...
    http://www.dslreports.com/archive?zi...=&start=Search

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    I guess the question is whether that changes once people are actually using Sprint's network.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jstpa
    I guess the question is whether that changes once people are actually using Sprint's network.
    lol
  4.    #4  
    I've wondered the same. I'm testing both carriers. Sprint was a tadbit slower with the Sierra 580 card vs. Verizon's Merlin v620 card. Sierra recently came out with a firmware upgrade and Sprint's EVDO now consistenly screams, especially with compression turned on.
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  5.    #5  
    BTW, both Sprint and Verizon have EVDO in about 35-40 markets now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xenophonite
    BTW, both Sprint and Verizon have EVDO in about 35-40 markets now.
    FWIW, I just got the attached letter listing the new EVDO markets for Verizon.
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  7.    #7  
    Very cool. The race has begun and we'll benefit from it. There is a rumor on evdo-coverage.com that Verizon will drop rates to below $60/month. Sprint will likely follow.
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    Did anyone notice on the Verizon commercial that they show both a blackberry and a 650, while saying in the commercial that you can connect at "almost broadband speed." Ha-Ha Someone ought to make a complaint with Verizon since the 650 can't access the EVDO network.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xenophonite
    Sierra recently came out with a firmware upgrade and Sprint's EVDO now consistenly screams, especially with compression turned on.
    Did you try Verizon's with their compression turned on? I get some (unbelievably) insane throughput measurements with that sometimes too.
    BTW, both Sprint and Verizon have EVDO in about 35-40 markets now.
    I keep hearing this, but folks seem to be having a hard time finding them (like in Kansas City - a small band of EV-DO near Sprint's HQ). Is it already fully deployed to these 35-40 markets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kupe
    Did you try Verizon's with their compression turned on? I get some (unbelievably) insane throughput measurements with that sometimes too.

    I keep hearing this, but folks seem to be having a hard time finding them (like in Kansas City - a small band of EV-DO near Sprint's HQ). Is it already fully deployed to these 35-40 markets?
    Yes, I tried Verizon's compression and get up to 750kbps with ocassional bursts to 1MB/sec. Both work very well, the Sprint card clearly is consistently higher with the Sierra firmware upgrade.

    Sprint's rollout seems well ahead of schedule. In KC, it works downtown/Plaza/airport, not just the HQ area. They will have full metro coverage by end of summer, ditto for many other cities. I tried Sprint's card in St. Louis (W County) and EVDO worked well there too yet STL is not announced. Sprint's unofficial rollouts appear to be way ahead of schedule.
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    Note that Firefox performs consistently better than IE on EVDO...

    http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?results=1
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    Quote Originally Posted by jstpa
    I guess the question is whether that changes once people are actually using Sprint's network.
    I was going to say the EXACT same thing.

    Joe
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    ^Although in the Kansas City market, Sprint has many more customers than Verizon yet I'm getting consistently better performance with the Sprint card than Verizon card. It seems to be related to the firmware upgrade on card because I was getting slightly slower average performance on Sprint beforehand.
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    I don't think you can equate legacy subscribers (sprint) to EVDO subscribers (Verizon). Usage habits will be very different.
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    Can't wait to give it a go Have the sierra 580 coming (maybe today)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jstpa
    I don't think you can equate legacy subscribers (sprint) to EVDO subscribers (Verizon). Usage habits will be very different.
    Agreed but again, the firmware upgrade made a clear difference. Load factor on towers probably less of a factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sjjones
    Can't wait to give it a go Have the sierra 580 coming (maybe today)
    Be sure to upgrade to latest firmware on Sprint Sierra card. Although be sure that is what you want to do as you can't downgrade back.

    http://www.sierrawireless.com/Suppor...580_sprint.asp
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    thanks xeno
  19.    #19  
    Quote Originally Posted by sjjones
    thanks xeno
    Did you get your card?


    Highest performance recorded by a Mac on Sprint....

    http://www.broadbandreports.com/mspeed?results=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenophonite
    Agreed but again, the firmware upgrade made a clear difference. Load factor on towers probably less of a factor.
    At this point, on Sprint networks, load factor is probably not a factor at all. This is a different situation for Verizon. My office is in one of the highest Cell traffic areas in DC (by the Pentagon) while my home is outside the beltway in a mostly residential district. There's is a consistent 200-400kbps difference between the two sites in download speed. I'd be more willing to say your firmware upgrade only brought your card up to the full capability it should have had out of the box. Once the sprint towers start loading up with subscribers, the load factor, not the card's firmware, will become the determining factor in speed.
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