I've owned this phone since the end of March and the ringer on it just isn't loud enough for me to hear, I am often in loud areas. I'm willing to let it go for $375 OBO, it comes with the Treo Sidecase for your belt. All boxes, packaging, and manuals are in perfect condition. The phone is in excellent condition and never has been dropped. You can email me at kelley@lcvg.com if interested. I have ebay references under gigapower21 and Heat under gigapower.