HP Killing WebOS? (Rumor)

cyberprashant · 10/18/2011, 12:04 PM

[Rumor] HP to Layoff webOS Engineers By Months End (Exclusive) | News, Rumors |webOSroundup

according to webosroundup its sounding like the rest of the software engineers are heading out the door at the end of the month? If so, was 3.0.4 just a final "wrap up"? If so, I am grateful that these folks took the time to give us a final update esp. if they're being sacked.

I hope it isn't true....see link above.

Vociferous · 10/18/2011, 12:41 PM

Just read a rumour on WebOS Roundup that HP is going to fire the rest of the WebOS team at the end of the month.

Anyone here know anything to confirm this rumour?

Major Payne · 10/18/2011, 12:43 PM

well I think that webos roundup has a 50/50 chance of being right

bluenote · 10/18/2011, 12:45 PM

They are sure not "killing" it, Jaaksi's blog says development is continuing including "core engines for the whole webOS". The question is did they manage to sell the O/S and the new buyer doesn't need all those engineers or did they not manage to close a sale and are still trying to find a solution for webOS?

Ari Jaaksi's Blog
We have also continued longer term architectural development for webOS. We are working hard around webKit and V8. Those are core engines for the whole webOS. The Enyo framework and developer tools are getting a lot of attention now. We have also some very cool development around UI especially in the area of working with many task simultaneously, and using the table screen even more efficiently.

spud101 · 10/18/2011, 01:01 PM

I have a bad feeling it is.

OldSkoolVWLover · 10/18/2011, 01:05 PM

spud101 · 10/18/2011, 01:06 PM

I think Jaaksi referred to the effort that got into 3.0.4, not into future updates. I do am afraid this is the last ever update we'll see. Maybe new app catalog entries till the end of the year and then it's all over...

geekpeter · 10/18/2011, 01:06 PM

or maybe their just flogging off the patented ideas/functionality of webOS to some1 else.

....which would suck.

ijip · 10/18/2011, 01:07 PM

yeah, sad day....

bluenote · 10/18/2011, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spud101

I think Jaaksi referred to the effort that got into 3.0.4, not into future updates. I do am afraid this is the last ever update we'll see. Maybe new app catalog entries till the end of the year and then it's all over...

No, Jaaksi used present tense verbs ("we are working hard") and not past tense ("we worked hard")

JED-WEB-OS · 10/18/2011, 01:27 PM

Jon Rubinstein must be rolling over in his grave!

CGK · 10/18/2011, 01:29 PM

em.. he's not dead!

bluenote · 10/18/2011, 01:35 PM

What I think is really interesting:

HP puts enyo on the earlier phones. Then it makes the current nonwebos phone base be able to take calls with the TouchPad. Its almost like HP is trying to expand the phone universe for webOS. Is this because the new buyer is planning to push out apps that would be compatible with older versions of webOS as well as non-webos phones (the enyo apps run on top of other software?)?

JED-WEB-OS · 10/18/2011, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CGK

em.. he's not dead!

Are you sure?? We haven’t heard a word from him in quite a while, in the mean time our beloved webOS that he convinced us was the mobile OS of the future, gets buried deeper day by day.

CGK · 10/18/2011, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JED-WEB-OS

Are you sure?? We haven’t heard a word from him in quite a while, in the mean time our beloved webOS that he convinced us was the mobile OS of the future, gets buried deeper day by day.

He no longer works in that business unit - he was moved out months ago, it's no longer his business to comment upon it in public, so like a good corporate player he says nothing.

CGK · 10/18/2011, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluenote

They are sure not "killing" it, Jaaksi's blog says development is continuing including "core engines for the whole webOS". The question is did they manage to sell the O/S and the new buyer doesn't need all those engineers or did they not manage to close a sale and are still trying to find a solution for webOS?

Ari Jaaksi's Blog
We have also continued longer term architectural development for webOS. We are working hard around webKit and V8. Those are core engines for the whole webOS. The Enyo framework and developer tools are getting a lot of attention now. We have also some very cool development around UI especially in the area of working with many task simultaneously, and using the table screen even more efficiently.

Wasn't he one of the guys who found out with the public that HP was discontinuing the hardware? Just saying...

I see Arthur Thornton wrote that rumor, if I remember correctly he interned with the WebOS GBU for a while so I'm guessing his contacts are the guys are on the ground. This might be simply a rumour or something might in the wind - I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks.

spud101 · 10/18/2011, 01:53 PM

Call me a pessimist. But I think it is not typically Palm/HP to release an update, the doctor, the kernel sources and a new SDK all in one go. Somehow feels like they wanted to finish of their final piece of work and be done with it...

insane42 · 10/18/2011, 02:26 PM

Welcome depression, my old friend...

Jason Robitaille · 10/18/2011, 02:47 PM

I'm pretty sure in regard to the WOR rumor, Andrew Rich, an engineer @ Palm, tweeted:

Quote:

lapcat pays no attention to rumors and shouldn't either https://twitpic.com/728tee

I would assume he meant to say "and you shouldn't either".

Interestingly, a minute or so before that tweet, he also tweeted:

Quote:

(restraining self from tweeting something at least as ugly, mean-spirited, inappropriate and false)

If HP is supposedly killing webOS before the end of the month, and the source of the rumour came from a guy in engineering, you'd think Andrew would be aware. Color me suspicious of the validity of the rumour.

bluenote · 10/18/2011, 02:52 PM

Thanks.
What a good looking lapcat.

Uncertainty makes everyone crazy. We'll just have to wait it out, shouldn't be any longer than a few more months.

10/18/2011, 12:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
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bluenote Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,219 Likes Received: 306 Thanks: 391 Thanked 579 Times in 357 Posts	They are sure not "killing" it, Jaaksi's blog says development is continuing including "core engines for the whole webOS". The question is did they manage to sell the O/S and the new buyer doesn't need all those engineers or did they not manage to close a sale and are still trying to find a solution for webOS? Ari Jaaksi's Blog We have also continued longer term architectural development for webOS. We are working hard around webKit and V8. Those are core engines for the whole webOS. The Enyo framework and developer tools are getting a lot of attention now. We have also some very cool development around UI especially in the area of working with many task simultaneously, and using the table screen even more efficiently.
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spud101 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Netherlands Posts: 825 Likes Received: 66 Thanks: 78 Thanked 96 Times in 53 Posts	I think Jaaksi referred to the effort that got into 3.0.4, not into future updates. I do am afraid this is the last ever update we'll see. Maybe new app catalog entries till the end of the year and then it's all over...
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geekpeter Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: UK Posts: 1,532 Likes Received: 191 Thanks: 64 Thanked 119 Times in 105 Posts	or maybe their just flogging off the patented ideas/functionality of webOS to some1 else. ....which would suck.
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bluenote Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,219 Likes Received: 306 Thanks: 391 Thanked 579 Times in 357 Posts	What I think is really interesting: HP puts enyo on the earlier phones. Then it makes the current nonwebos phone base be able to take calls with the TouchPad. Its almost like HP is trying to expand the phone universe for webOS. Is this because the new buyer is planning to push out apps that would be compatible with older versions of webOS as well as non-webos phones (the enyo apps run on top of other software?)?
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spud101 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Netherlands Posts: 825 Likes Received: 66 Thanks: 78 Thanked 96 Times in 53 Posts	Call me a pessimist. But I think it is not typically Palm/HP to release an update, the doctor, the kernel sources and a new SDK all in one go. Somehow feels like they wanted to finish of their final piece of work and be done with it...
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