webOS: grid view?

Doc31 · 10/27/2010, 12:18 PM

So I was looking over the patent Palm filed for multi-tasking using the card metaphor. Cool part about that is that stacks have been a idea from the start (Apr 2009) but the patent also cover something called Grid mode.

Basically grid mode calls for grids of 4 and 9 visible apps/cards and a 16 card grid with scrolling.

pics of the patent attached.

I think this would be awesome for our future PalmPad.

mjkjr · 10/27/2010, 12:32 PM

Good find, maybe we'll get this as a surprise bonus in a future update.

sketch42 · 10/27/2010, 12:36 PM

but its seems as grid mode utilizes the mini card view , which was removed from 2.0

mjkjr · 10/27/2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sketch42

but its seems as grid mode utilizes the mini card view , which was removed from 2.0

I read that

maybe mini card view the way it is now is being removed for this alternate grid view. Just wishful thinking...

Doc31 · 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sketch42

but its seems as grid mode utilizes the mini card view , which was removed from 2.0

I'm pretty sure it's a safe bet that 2.0 for mobile phone and the pad won't be the same.

Also it mentions how to change views like gestures down swipes and changing the orientation of the device

sinime · 10/27/2010, 01:27 PM

Only issue I see is when you go to the 4x4 grid, because of the size of each screen, it's almost like just pulling up the launcher only that it shows what's running.

patricksmangan · 10/27/2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sinime

Only issue I see is when you go to the 4x4 grid, because of the size of each screen, it's almost like just pulling up the launcher only that it shows what's running.

that's what I was gna say. But if you go too small, you can't even see what app it is..might as well cover it up with it's icon

sketch42 · 10/27/2010, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinime

Only issue I see is when you go to the 4x4 grid, because of the size of each screen, it's almost like just pulling up the launcher only that it shows what's running.

like widgets?

Doc31 · 10/27/2010, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinime

Only issue I see is when you go to the 4x4 grid, because of the size of each screen, it's almost like just pulling up the launcher only that it shows what's running.

I would hope its not a default view kinda like expose...
standard view then maybe pinch in or rotate to get to grid view. If would much easy to get to different card/stacks and rearrange stuff.

Garrett92C · 10/27/2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by patricksmangan

that's what I was gna say. But if you go too small, you can't even see what app it is..might as well cover it up with it's icon

or apps could have a grid view scene and only display vital info... like widgets

Doc31 · 10/27/2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Garrett92C

or apps could have a grid view scene and only display vital info... like widgets

I like that!

igobytony · 10/27/2010, 01:46 PM

maybe you could have stacks viewed in a grid, and kind of have them all "active" at the same time. it would take a bigger screen, but that would be great for multitasking jobs such as reading something on one card to type into another. and would make a lot of sense for the stacks, since they are meant to be grouped as things that you are using for the same task. i hope the way i worded that made sense, as it was far from eloquent.

being able to have a stack spread out like this on the tablet would be totally -how do you say? "wicked awesome."

Garrett92C · 10/27/2010, 01:48 PM

Grid view + stacks = almost solitaire

GodShapedHole · 10/27/2010, 03:29 PM

3.0 Feature

coolguyslim · 10/27/2010, 03:36 PM

I can't wait for this! This is ne of those features that is really missing from the current version.

circadia · 10/27/2010, 03:37 PM

Keep in mind that this is still an application. With the current backlog in the USPTO, depending on the "art department", it could be as long as two years from now before an examiner opens it up. Depending on what the examiner thinks, it can be ages after that before it matures into a patent.

Either way, I'm sure there are interesting applications and uses for Grid Mode. Within the PalmPad environment comes to mind.

Kupe · 10/27/2010, 03:39 PM

I like that grid mode much more than the current linear instantiation of cards. You can see more processes at a time and probably switch more quickly between running programs.

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Originally Posted by Garrett92C

Grid view + stacks = almost solitaire

circadia · 10/27/2010, 03:51 PM

I imagine that there are many patent applications hanging out there, so one could spend a lot of time going through them, but here's another "grid" function:

That application is 12/505,543 and it describes the images as one that is "depicting an example of a grid layout for a hierarchical launch wave".

I have to imagine there's tons to find out by reading through all of Palm's published applications. But who's got the time?

Also, think of all the applications that are probably filed but haven't been published yet and what might be in them.

Mhunterjr · 10/27/2010, 03:56 PM

i was looking for Palms webOS related patents yesterday. could you please point me in the right direction?

circadia · 04:09 PM

Sure. Probably the simplest way is to go to Google Patents and go to the advanced search and put "palm inc." in the "Assignee Name" form. Or you can just put this into the regular search: "inassignee

alm inassignee:inc" (without the quotes) as it does the same thing.

Of course, you can search United States Patent and Trademark Office, but it's fairly unwieldy for non practitioners. If you really want to go in depth, though, the USPTO's "Public PAIR" system will give you most of what you want to know, especially if you're looking into applications.

EDIT: the smiley should not be there. In lieu of the smiley, it should be colon (":") and the letter "p". Anyway to turn these things off!?!?

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igobytony Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: at home Posts: 735 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 227 Thanked 78 Times in 66 Posts	maybe you could have stacks viewed in a grid, and kind of have them all "active" at the same time. it would take a bigger screen, but that would be great for multitasking jobs such as reading something on one card to type into another. and would make a lot of sense for the stacks, since they are meant to be grouped as things that you are using for the same task. i hope the way i worded that made sense, as it was far from eloquent. being able to have a stack spread out like this on the tablet would be totally -how do you say? "wicked awesome."
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circadia Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Westchester, NY Posts: 214 Likes Received: 13 Thanks: 62 Thanked 26 Times in 20 Posts	Keep in mind that this is still an application. With the current backlog in the USPTO, depending on the "art department", it could be as long as two years from now before an examiner opens it up. Depending on what the examiner thinks, it can be ages after that before it matures into a patent. Either way, I'm sure there are interesting applications and uses for Grid Mode. Within the PalmPad environment comes to mind.
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circadia Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Westchester, NY Posts: 214 Likes Received: 13 Thanks: 62 Thanked 26 Times in 20 Posts	I imagine that there are many patent applications hanging out there, so one could spend a lot of time going through them, but here's another "grid" function: That application is 12/505,543 and it describes the images as one that is "depicting an example of a grid layout for a hierarchical launch wave". I have to imagine there's tons to find out by reading through all of Palm's published applications. But who's got the time? Also, think of all the applications that are probably filed but haven't been published yet and what might be in them.
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circadia Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Westchester, NY Posts: 214 Likes Received: 13 Thanks: 62 Thanked 26 Times in 20 Posts	Sure. Probably the simplest way is to go to Google Patents and go to the advanced search and put "palm inc." in the "Assignee Name" form. Or you can just put this into the regular search: "inassigneealm inassignee:inc" (without the quotes) as it does the same thing. Of course, you can search United States Patent and Trademark Office, but it's fairly unwieldy for non practitioners. If you really want to go in depth, though, the USPTO's "Public PAIR" system will give you most of what you want to know, especially if you're looking into applications. EDIT: the smiley should not be there. In lieu of the smiley, it should be colon (":") and the letter "p". Anyway to turn these things off!?!? Last edited by circadia; 10/27/2010 at 04:09 PM. Reason: ugh, smilies!
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