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  1.    #1  
    Rant -

    It disgusts me to the core that my order was cancelled for a legitimate developer TouchPad due to lack of inventory and then to see a plethora of so called 'devs' selling their access codes or buying their TouchPads to turn them over for a profit.

    This is not what was intended with the 'Developer Purchase Program'. It in essence creates a financial barrier for legit developers getting in on Touchpad development. I find the act of purchasing a device meant to buoy up the ecosystem only to resell it for profit a deplorable and ecosystem killing act.

    end Rant

    Understanding -

    It's the Holiday season and I totally understand needing a couple extra bucks. Heck, everyone can use an extra couple of bucks. Having the ability to purchase an 'in demand' item for very little and then being able to sell it again for profit is the American way.

    end understanding

    I will likely be still buying my TouchPad off eBay regardless because I have app ideas and I think webOS still has a future. In future, though, if you are one to resell your TouchPad for profit, know I harbor no ill will toward you, just think first about the developer you are harming by taking their already low resources.

    Good day!
    Last edited by pogeypre; 11/28/2011 at 11:04 AM.
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    Oh oh I have an addendum!

    Irony - many developers were complaining about HP not setting aside stock for them during the initial TouchPad clearance sale.
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    As a developer, I would tend to agree myself.

    However, HP really didn't even have to offer these to developers, but I'm quite glad they did. I do think that they probably should have not allowed new developer accounts to qualify, but then there are many new developers who would be hampered by that restriction as well.

    It is what it is. There is a demand for limited devices. So, even with the best efforts to try to prevent people from flipping devices, it's going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickNeff View Post
    As a developer, I would tend to agree myself.

    However, HP really didn't even have to offer these to developers, but I'm quite glad they did. I do think that they probably should have not allowed new developer accounts to qualify, but then there are many new developers who would be hampered by that restriction as well.

    It is what it is. There is a demand for limited devices. So, even with the best efforts to try to prevent people from flipping devices, it's going to happen.
    That's the problem. I don't think any efforts were made to prevent flipping the devices. When I sumbitted my request back in July for a developer device, I was told that I didn't have enough work completed to qualify. Now that I do, there are no devices due to said flipping.
    Last edited by pogeypre; 11/28/2011 at 12:00 PM.
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    "I think webos still has a future"

    thank you.

    it is utterly refreshing to hear some positive views on precentral.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pogeypre View Post
    That's the problem. I don't think any efforts were made to prevent flipping the devices. When I sumbitted my request back in July for a developer device, I was told that I didn't have enough work completed to qualify. Now that I do, there are no devices due to said flipping.
    I have no idea what "qualify" means to them. I only have one app and that is "only" in homebrew. I've got the biblebelt green tier designation discount of 25% for a TouchPad back when the TP was still alive.
    Then we've heard there are no devices any more.
    Suddenly there where devdevices again?
    Complete chaos.
    If you would life in Germany I would consider to give you one of my TP's.
    We have organized devices (Veer, Pre3 and TPs) within our palm user group in Berlin and for shure at the price we paid to get them.
    I really hope you will get one from an US dev for the same.
    Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by somline View Post
    I have no idea what "qualify" means to them. I only have one app and that is "only" in homebrew. I've got the biblebelt green tier designation discount of 25% for a TouchPad back when the TP was still alive.
    Then we've heard there are no devices any more.
    Suddenly there where devdevices again?
    Complete chaos.
    If you would life in Germany I would consider to give you one of my TP's.
    We have organized devices (Veer, Pre3 and TPs) within our palm user group in Berlin and for shure at the price we paid to get them.
    I really hope you will get one from an US dev for the same.
    Good luck
    I wish we were a little closer, but I am in the US. No worries.

    The best way for them to qualify would be to use the same rationalle they used initially when granting dev devices. You have to submit some work showing where you were heading so as to make sure the devices were going to the right people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pogeypre View Post
    Rant -

    It disgusts me to the core that my order was cancelled for a legitimate developer TouchPad due to lack of inventory and then to see a plethora of so called 'devs' selling their access codes or buying their TouchPads to turn them over for a profit.

    This is not what was intended with the 'Developer Purchase Program'. It in essence creates a financial barrier for legit developers getting in on Touchpad development. I find the act of purchasing a device meant to buoy up the ecosystem only to resell it for profit a deplorable and ecosystem killing act.

    end Rant

    Good day!
    Just another example of how clueless HP has been throughout most of their reign as the keeper of the OS. Spending money doesn't equate to spending it intelligently (see:the New York Mets).

    How much of the 2 billion plus they claim to have lost on this deal would it have cost them to win the goodwill of dozens or maybe even hundreds of developers by throwing them a bone?
    "Sometimes I feel like an OS-less child..."
    (with apologies to Billie Holiday )
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    Pogey,
    Sorry for the way you were jerked==was truly terrible. Looked around for you, did not see much at a good price but then this poster popped up below at precentral, not too bad.
    Good luck.

    http://forums.precentral.net/marketp...ml#post3253637
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    Same thing happened to me - last week I ordered a Touchpad and got a confirmation about the sale. Today they cancelled due to lack of inventory.

    HP really needs to work on their inventory system.
    One would think that they know how many they have left before they confirm an order.

    But I don't see much point in renting about who got those TPs.

    Would I prefer that I - or you - got one instead of a scalper who makes a quick 100 bucks on that tablet - sure.

    But it's simply too much work for HP to figure out who deserves it more. They started the firesale to empty their containers and start the liability period (so it ends ASAP). They are loosing a bunch of money already - they won't invest additional money to optimally distribute it to fans and devs.

    There are simply not enough TPs to satisfy demand at this low price. Many will end up disappointed - that's just how it is.

    But they really should invest in some proper inventory system. It's pathetic not to know how much stuff you have available to sell. Make sure the devices are there before you sell them.

    Annoying detail: After the confirmation I ordered a TP case. Now I will end up with owning a case but no TP.
    Pre -> Pre3 & TP32 -> Nexus 5
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    Last edited by bluenote; 11/28/2011 at 04:39 PM.
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    @nickstarr just posted $180 price
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    Right here on our forums-$199 for 32gb, not bad. Good luck.
    http://forums.precentral.net/marketp...ml#post3259289
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    I forgot to mention that I made a deal with someone. I now have a Pre 3 and a Touchpad.
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    I wish there were an official list of Devs in need of a Touchpads. At one time I had 2 that I was selling at cost plus shipping (a 16 and a 32). I contacted a couple of Devs via PM, one was covered and the other didn't reply back. I looked all over the forums trying to figure out which Devs were in need. I ended up selling them to non-Devs.

    I didn't write a general "for sale" post because I had mentioned my plan to sell to Devs in a few threads way before my extra TPs arrived and was approached by by non-Devs via PM.

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