CarrierIQ (CIQ) and such "rootkits" on HP Touchpad ?

[hptuser]

Has anybody looked to see if the HP Touchpad too has CarrierIQ or such "rootkits" pre-installed ?
The Rootkit Of All Evil – CIQ | xda-developers

BTW, homebrew Impostah seems to make available a lot of system info etc.
How does one make the best use of Impostah ?

Also, is there anti-virus / anti-malware apps available for TP? Thanks.

[bluenote]

Shows that "nothing is free", while people think they are getting this free Android software on their phone, no one put to the consumer directly--would you hand over your information in exchange for this (free) software?

[Cantaffordit]

no reason to have antivirus software for webOS

[nexus14]

One could argue that HP's overzealous use of system logging is similar to a rootkit

[cmcrae1]

Look at Carrier IQ Info Video - YouTube (@ 1:05 minutes).....would appear that it is on our devices too.

[antijingoist]

RT @Korey_Nicholson: @webosinternals @hp @webosdev @verge They are a client yes. I'm the one who conducted the interview with Andrew Coward

[bluenote]

for webOS? Or for their windows tablets?

wow: video shows TouchPad and two phones: Pre3 and Pre2?

And HP technical support still had alot of trouble fixing my TouchPad. The video says the consumer has to opt-in. Where is the opt-in for webOS? Is it in the Palm agreement or the app catalogue agreement?

[dignitary]

The consumer "opts in" without ever realizing it because it's generally buried in a contract or agreement in fine print.

[p41m3r]

Originally Posted by independent1

The consumer "opts in" without ever realizing it because it's generally buried in a contract or agreement in fine print.

That's right.

3:56 - "...they gain this permission through service agreements..."
4:01 - contains user-identifiable info. Sweet!

Ok, so how do we kill this monster?

[Mutoidi]

Originally Posted by p41m3r

That's right.

3:56 - "...they gain this permission through service agreements..."
4:01 - contains user-identifiable info. Sweet!

Ok, so how do we kill this monster?

It's dying anyway!
Just be aware of what you 'back-up' and where.. and what Accs. you 'sync' to what other Accs?
Clean out your Log files and frequently reset to 'Min Logging' etc?
Disable your Android 'identifier'?
Empty your Email 'trash' from both client & server?
Opt out of 'Location Services'?

[panel]

Sorry I don't understand, is there CIQ logging on webOS or no ? Or nobody knows?

[greenskinredeyez]

Why?

So nobody will ever develop virus/malware for webos? How can you be so sure?

Have you ever seen your touchpad displaying this message?
"Touchinput recording, press sym+opt+w to stop"

Originally Posted by Cantaffordit

no reason to have antivirus software for webOS

[howi]

Originally Posted by bluenote

Shows that "nothing is free", while people think they are getting this free Android software on their phone, no one put to the consumer directly--would you hand over your information in exchange for this (free) software?

bluenote,

You may have missed a few things...


1. Carrier IQ software is not installed by end-users but rather embedded in the various manufacturers firmware specific for the U.S. carriers. Only U.S. carrier subscribers have found to be targeted. Verizon has denied any use of Carrier IQ software.

2. Google has not implemented the Carrier IQ software in the vanilla Android and it has not been the case with those "reference" devices directly partnered with Google e.g. Nexus One, Nexus S, Motorola Xoom, Galaxy Nexus.

3. Carrier IQ references have also been discovered in Apple iOS (verified http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...1284749&page=2 ), Nokia Symbian (denied http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/26...sed-carrier-iq ) and BlackBerry OS (denied http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7B01PA20111201 )according to TrevE.

4. There are no up front opt-in / opt-out opportunities, no straight-forward uninstall mechanism is available as described by TrevE and others.


Of course, by offering an opt-out for collecting our usage patterns and data, many will protect the privacy rather.

[codecrumb]

I did a quick scan through the webOS tarball for the Pre3 and did not find anything. Just to be sure, I have updated the Max Blocker patch to block any traffic to carrieriq.com

That said, Palm logs an ENORMOUS amount of information which is uploaded to palm.com which is yet another good reason why you should install the following

- Muffle
- EOM

[thomaz]

Millions of Smartphones and Tablets have a Rootkit Spyware Software called CarrierIQ installed.

Of course its a good question if WebOS Devices are also affected.

If yes it would be fantastic if some experienced user can make a patch to eliminate this Spyware.

CarrierIQ | Android Security Test
the site is under heavy load so try again and again and ...

[thomaz]

Sorry I don't understand, is there CIQ logging on webOS or no ? Or nobody knows?

so where is a CLEAR ANSWER to this question ?

and if yes how can i disable it ?

[thomaz]

yeahh but there is no clear answer

[bhern]

There is no carrierIQ in webOS

[Rnp]

Quadrant before disable CarrieIQ in one Android here: 3427.
Quadrant after disable CarrieIQ in same Android here: 4593.

Finally, discovered the #*5647# on Androids...


Best Regards...

[p41m3r]

Originally Posted by thomaz

so where is a CLEAR ANSWER to this question ?

Frustrating! If the answer is no, as Palm stated, then why would Coward misrepresent web OS devices in the video (1:05 - 1:10)?

Originally Posted by Rnp

Finally, discovered the #*5647# on Androids...

Thats it? Would something at this (presumably) low level be this easily bypassed?