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    The recent Reuters unconfirmed rumors about HP is thinking into selll or keep webos, has been report expanded, and are including Amazon,RIM,IBM, Oracle and Intel as companies interested in a webOS adcquisition.


    However, Reuter is also adding that in a recent interview made to Meg Whitman HP CEO she said:


    HP is still mulling the software's future, including if it should build a new webOS-based tablet, HP's new chief executive Meg Whitman said in a recent interview.

    "The question now before us is what do we do with webOS software and do we come back to market with webOS devices," Whitman said. "It obviously will not be the same device but it will be version 2.0."

    The last word is not said yet. Donīt you think?

    Full article:


    (Reuters) - Hewlett-Packard Co is looking to sell Palm's webOS mobile software platform, a deal that could fetch hundreds of millions of dollars but less than the $1.2 billion that HP paid last year, four sources close to the matter said.


    Advised by Bank of America Merrill Lynch, HP is trying to figure out how to recoup its investment in Palm, viewed by many analysts and investors as an expensive foray into the smartphone market that has not paid off.

    Several technology companies have expressed an interest in buying the division, which is seen as attractive for its patents, the sources said.

    Amazon.com Inc, Research In Motion, IBM, Oracle Corp and Intel Corp are considered to be among the companies likely to be interested in the asset, industry sources said.

    The future of the unit, which HP acquired when it bought Palm in 2010, was in jeopardy after the company decided to kill its webOS-based TouchPad tablet following poor sales.

    An HP spokesman said "we are exploring ways to optimize the webOS software," and declined to further comment.

    HP is still mulling the software's future, including if it should build a new webOS-based tablet, HP's new chief executive Meg Whitman said in a recent interview.

    "The question now before us is what do we do with webOS software and do we come back to market with webOS devices," Whitman said. "It obviously will not be the same device but it will be version 2.0."

    In October, HP ditched a plan to spin off its personal computers unit, a month after the ouster of CEO Leo Apotheker whose idea would have cost billions of dollars in expenses and lost business.

    The boutique investment bank Parella Weinberg, which had been hired by Apotheker at the time to explore alternatives, has since lost the mandate as HP's adviser, the sources said.

    Parella Weinberg was not immediately available for comment. Bank of America declined to comment.

    RICH PATENTS?
    But one of the sources said that any auction would not fetch a high price, given webOS has not received significant investment in over a year. "This won't be the most robust auction in the world," the source said.

    Palm's former CEO Jon Rubinstein, currently in a product innovation role at HP's Personal Systems Group, which houses the webOS division, is an Amazon board member.

    HP decided to buy Palm for over $1.2 billion in cash last April, billing the acquisition as a way for the company to participate more aggressively in the red-hot mobile market. HP acknowledged at the time that Palm housed "significant IP assets."

    HP bought Palm mostly for the patent value and tablets were not an important strategic direction, said a fifth source familiar with the acquisition. The patents held by webOS could be used as defense by potential buyers to ward off patent infringement lawsuits, experts say.

    Apotheker made webOS a central strategy, announcing in March that HP planned to incorporate webOS across most of its products. The TouchPad was to be the flagship device for the operating system.

    Then HP discontinued the TouchPad in August -- little over a month after it hit store shelves with costly fanfare -- following poor demand for a tablet priced on par with Apple's dominant iPad.

    WebOS is widely viewed as a strong mobile platform, but has been assailed for its paucity of applications, an important consideration while choosing a mobile device.

    Also, the market is now mainly dominated by Apple and Google Android-based products. Microsoft's Mango platform comes a distant third.

    Source: Exclusive: HP weighing sale of webOS unit | Reuters
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    HP is still mulling the software's future, including if it should build a new webOS-based tablet, HP's new chief executive Meg Whitman said in a recent interview.

    "The question now before us is what do we do with webOS software and do we come back to market with webOS devices," Whitman said. "It obviously will not be the same device but it will be version 2.0."
    This is probably the best news I've heard so far. It's good to know that they are actually considering keeping webOS & making another webOS tablet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartfah View Post
    This is probably the best news I've heard so far. It's good to know that they are actually considering keeping webOS & making another webOS tablet.
    I keep myself positive since I have been waiting from 2009 to get a webOS device, because the panorama was and is not so clear yet, but still a devote Palm fan.
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    Meg.. last good kin of HP board of director that can save WebOS life.

    TouchPad 2 base WebOS should be interesting.

    But I don't think will happen that good Better we not expect anything good anymore, so we can't be more disappointed if something bad happen again on WebOS.

    Personally, I hope NVidia bought WebOS... imagine how great it will be... smartphones and tablets that can run quality 3D games, and also works good for business. This can surely head to head with PSP Vita, NDS 3D, Wii U , iPod , iPad 2 and many other gaming devices.
    Last edited by The Bard; 11/08/2011 at 06:10 AM.
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    Well, at least they know what a gigantic mistake it was to cut and run. Hopefully ( and im saying this with caution) they will come back with TP 2.0
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    phones, we need phones not tablets. Ah well a touchpad 2 would be better than selling to oracle.
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    Perhaps what HP really needs to do is start again with a new TouchPad 2 and TouchPad Go (properly refreshed for 2012, of course), then contract with HTC or Samsung to make the phones. HP is going to make tablets either way, but I don't think they ought to be in the phone business...

    I don't think webOS can succeed without a presence on both phones and tablets. iOS is on phones and tablets, Android is on phones and tablets, Windows will be on phones and tablets soon (I'm only considering Windows 8 here... a Windows 7 tablet is just a notebook with the keyboard broken off), even Blackberry is on phones and tablets.
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    Wow this is confusing to know what is actually happening. Sounds like the bidders are hoping to talk the price down:

    "But one of the sources said that any auction would not fetch a high price, given webOS has not received significant investment in over a year. "This won't be the most robust auction in the world," the source said."

    Interesting also that Whitman is thinking of a TouchPad 2.0. Hard to say if HP has already rejected bidder offers and is moving towards fashioning an HP strategy (her comments seem this way) or whether they are still open to a [higher] price. Whatever the decision is, they should make it fast--its not good for webOS to be in limbo, especially as HP sold all its inventory.
    Last edited by bluenote; 11/08/2011 at 02:26 AM.
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    This new tablet from HP is INDEED two-point-zero: It runs Windows 8. We can choose to believe it will be webOS based, but that's twisting reality. Just as believing the bosses might see the Touchpad as something else but a failure. I'm not talking culprits here, though.
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    Pure speculations.

    What can happen:
    - all of the above
    - none of the above
    - something entirely different
    - or they flip a coin 5 times and go with those winners

    Time will tell. Some of us got low priced tablets but still growing and awaiting a better WebOS to be useful. I still need my notebook 100% while the tablet is a toy at this stage.
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    I think selling to RIM would like going from the frying pan into the fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartfah View Post
    This is probably the best news I've heard so far. It's good to know that they are actually considering keeping webOS & making another webOS tablet.
    OMG! If HP decides to resume operations of the webOS unit then new versions of current devices (i.e., TouchPad 2, TouchPad Go, Pre4), even webOS printers and more would finally bring a third "serious" player into the mobile device arena. Just sayin' webOS deserves better. Peace.
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    IMO there are some strong words we have read before this news:

    1.-Todd Bradley: right tablet price $300.-
    2.-webOS decision in a couple of months. ( November is running)

    Now:
    3.- bidders offers to low to accept.
    4.-Whitman: a webOS tablet 2.0

    5.-CES 2012: Jan 10-13 perfect scenario for the announcement of the next webOS 2.0 tablet.
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    IMO there are some strong words we have read before this news:

    1.-Todd Bradley: right tablet price $300.-
    2.-webOS decision in a couple of months. ( November is running)
    3.-Whitman: webOS is part of our cloud strategy
    Now:
    4.- bidders offers to low to accept.
    5.-Whitman: a webOS tablet 2.0

    6.-CES 2012: Jan 10-13 perfect scenario for the announcement of the next webOS 2.0 tablet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akitayo View Post
    IMO there are some strong words we have read before this news:

    1.-Todd Bradley: right tablet price $300.-
    2.-webOS decision in a couple of months. ( November is running)

    Now:
    3.- bidders offers to low to accept.
    4.-Whitman: a webOS tablet 2.0

    5.-CES 2012: Jan 10-13 perfect scenario for the announcement of the next webOS 2.0 tablet.
    Exactly. HP has stated several times a decision on webOS will be made either on or shortly after their big meeting on November 21st. Hopefully the next 10 days or so will bring webOS faithful some great news. Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akitayo View Post
    IMO there are some strong words we have read before this news:

    1.-Todd Bradley: right tablet price $300.-
    2.-webOS decision in a couple of months. ( November is running)
    3.-Whitman: webOS is part of our cloud strategy
    Now:
    4.- bidders offers to low to accept.
    5.-Whitman: a webOS tablet 2.0

    6.-CES 2012: Jan 10-13 perfect scenario for the announcement of the next webOS 2.0 tablet.
    All valid points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akitayo View Post
    IMO there are some strong words we have read before this news:

    1.-Todd Bradley: right tablet price $300.-
    2.-webOS decision in a couple of months. ( November is running)
    3.-Whitman: webOS is part of our cloud strategy
    Now:
    4.- bidders offers too low to accept.
    5.-Whitman: a webOS tablet 2.0

    6.-CES 2012: Jan 10-13 perfect scenario for the announcement of the next webOS 2.0 tablet.

    For release in "the coming months"? If they announce it in January, unless they do another bodge job like they did with the touchpad, you are looking at the end of summer 2012 for a release? By which time, WP7 has another eight or nine months of lead to try and shore its place up as the third OS (No point talking about Android or iOS, they are simply in a different league to WebOS from a sales perspective).

    More fundamentally, what has changed in the last two months since the CTO and chairman said that HP was incapable of making hardware to compete with Samsung and others in the tablet market? Are they suddenly going to plunk down billions of dollars to develop the capacity to compete?
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    quote me on this one:

    HP has NO desire to make any webOS products. HP is not getting the price they want for it so Meg is just saying this because HP has no real leverage in their negotiations with potential buyers since they essentially said they want nothing to do with webOS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fred1955 View Post
    Exactly. HP has stated several times a decision on webOS will be made either on or shortly after their big meeting on November 21st. Hopefully the next 10 days or so will bring webOS faithful some great news. Cheers.
    Quote Originally Posted by fred1955 View Post
    All valid points.
    HP is confirmed to exhibit in CES 2012 booth N246 (is that the same booth Palm was before?)

    Link: 2012 CES: Exhibitor Directory - Hewlett Packard
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGK View Post
    For release in "the coming months"? If they announce it in January, unless they do another bodge job like they did with the touchpad, you are looking at the end of summer 2012 for a release? By which time, WP7 has another eight or nine months of lead to try and shore its place up as the third OS (No point talking about Android or iOS, they are simply in a different league to WebOS from a sales perspective).

    More fundamentally, what has changed in the last two months since the CTO and chairman said that HP was incapable of making hardware to compete with Samsung and others in the tablet market? Are they suddenly going to plunk down billions of dollars to develop the capacity to compete?
    Good points., as Palm and HP usually like to do things that way.

    Question:
    Have HP some Ace we donīt know yet?
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